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nubbins`: so i built
a "hackintosh" computer, just realized i hadn't bothered to put the video card into the thing
mircea_popescu: invention is like true love. you gotta be
a certain age to believe it with all your heart.
ben_vulpes: and only if used as
a hammer and not microscope.
mircea_popescu: it's splendid, really. the fact that i can run it on
a random box and trust the result pales anything else.
phf: mercurial has
a handy patch management mechanism, that unfortunatly doesn't understand nor produces vpatches. i basically verify vpatches manually, and then put them into hg's patch folder. then i do
a topo sort, which gives me
a mercurial compatible "series" file. i let mercurial press it using that series file. whole process is more complicated then should be with
a proper mercurial support, but i hnfi how people rebase, refresh,
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2016 20:49:10; mircea_popescu: if someone, as oft is the case for say mod6, is trying to make the whole pile of what was said abvout X, they encounter
a very present difficulty.
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mircea_popescu: ~only way to make
a shorter text reliably is to rely on specified notation known in advance.
mircea_popescu: davout you pm deedbot with
a list of strings which it retains for the day, prints
a cloud somewhere, one can click items in cloud to get list of days so tagged
davout: mircea_popescu: maybe use log.b-
a.com for that purpose? how would pm tagging work?
ben_vulpes: i recently took
a 45 minute sojourn into the history of "protocol vs. promise"
davout: anyway, my point is that if nobody remembers, that nobody bothered to blog it, the fact that completeness is
a problem might indicate
a violation of fits-in-head
davout: ok, i meant that this issue came up when you were talking about "what should go into
a tmsr fork" that danielpbarron ended up summarizing on his blog?
davout: re the mp describes
a HF that danielpbarron ended up blawging about?
mircea_popescu: if someone, as oft is the case for say mod6, is trying to make the whole pile of what was said abvout X, they encounter
a very present difficulty.
☟︎ davout: if nobody remembers how to find
a particular thread, maybe that thread isn't really worth remembering after all
mircea_popescu: mrottenkolber don't kid yourself, they're living in
a dictator sheep.
mircea_popescu: turns out, re prev tagging discussion, that ... we're already doing
a rudimentary, grassroots sort of that.
phf: we're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. we take it in turns to act as
a sort of executive officer for the week.
mrottenkolber: mircea_popescu: No, sorry, still mumbling aout the why I am in b-
a mrottenkolber: But e.g. in my head, if you spend 70k to compute
a sha1 collision, it won't look like C code probably ;-)
mrottenkolber: I am only mentioning the sha1 option because I don't understand crypto well enough to be able to rationalize the effort of producing
a file, with the same sha1sum, with an exploit while the patch still applies.
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phf: mrottenkolber:
a better place to wire v would be mercurial's mq facility. mercurial has
a way of managing plaintext patchsets, to do things like patch refresh, i.e update the contents of patch from the current tree state, mercurial managed patch press, i.e. instead of doing "manual" v press hg will keep track of state for you, etc. this will not be
a way to share patches, as much as
a way to facilitate vpatch authoring.
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phf: asciilifeform: well, you can verify data without verifying git. i've done it, and the thing definitely produces
a semblance of "blockchain", i.e. later commits hashes previous commits' hashes, so you can if you ignore the sha1 issue, take
a git branch and confirm its uniqueness from the final hash
mrottenkolber: phf: That's why I thought about adding signatures of “git vdiff” to commit messages and an alias/command to verify
a branch.
phf: mrottenkolber: if that's your only goal, you don't need v for that. git already does it for you by having
a linearly hashed commit chain. right now you have
a reasonable way of verifying the git chain from the top hash, but you can't make any crypto claims about it, since the hashes are sha1
mrottenkolber: My point is the toposort isn't really part of the problem v solves. The function is to cryptographically verfiy
a sequence of patches (based on
a wot), who cares where that sequence comes from, as long as each patch (commit) has
a signature.
mrottenkolber: asciilifeform: So I dowloaded v99.tar.gz because I thought it was
a cool hack, and expected the following to work: (inside the v99 directory): ./v.py -v --wot wot --seals sigs patches f
phf: that's
a bit too many dirty words for my taste, but i'll give it
a try
phf: that looks neat, but is there
a compiler that adds retro compatibility?
trinque: phf: ever use flexbox? something resembling
a layout system ended up in the standard itself
nubbins`: i would've put money on
a heart attack, perhaps exacerbated by drug use, not cancer
BingoBoingo enjoys the "actual damages" getting nice round numbers while punitive damages get
a decimal point
jurov: "Children carry more than 72 known diseases.
A bite or scratch can be fatal."
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2016 00:16:30; asciilifeform: (the real question is why usg would ever admit to it - whole point of the charade was to build precedent-setting verdict. i suppose this outcome became in doubt, and whole thing was brought to what is intended as
a quiet burial ?)
mats: i also considered
a portrait of myself, perhaps in
a classic mao pose
mats:
a wasps nest could be good, however, i am not strong in the crafting arts
mats: (idea with prior is, folks see portrait, then coworker, wonder why
a dead man is walking around)
mats: my best idea is to print
a hi-res portrait of
a coworker and put something like 'January 1985 to March 2016' at the bottom, then hide in the office somewhere
mats: i found
a 24x36in wooden frame and currently looking for pranks to play with it (apr1 is fast approaching)
mats: on
a moar flippant note,
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, bitcoin needs not merely
a "protocol standard".
mod6: right, they said something about C/C++/et.al that have
a loop construct such as 'do/while' 'for' 'foreach' etc, as
a defect in the lang. lol
mod6: yeah, i'd seen the name before, but never heard anything about it until you were talkin about it. now it interests me because bitcoin needs to work better than
a goddamn 777
mod6: hout error, where
a software accident could
mod6: oh yeah, this first link is
a trove of examples. nice.
mircea_popescu: in other crazy news, i just popped (ie, got
a major loot) in eulora. 1+ bitcent's worth of brave man's nosehairs.
mircea_popescu: go, tell three year old that the sky isn't
a thing, pristina rosa, all that.
mircea_popescu: much long ago, when chet was
a young woman, with children like many here she tried to prepare herself, like many here try. so she had an answer all ready for the eventual inevitable moment her oldest was going to inquire why the sky is blue.
phf: give me here on
a platter the head of john the baptist
mircea_popescu: it wasn't
a cartoon. it was
a "book of practical activities for making puppets and designing scenes". superadvanced art stuff for ro genius kids
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> trinque: idea was to play stupid & set judicial precedent in favour of arbitrary do-what-we-say orders << i think trinque is much closer to the facts of the field. beast doth not know what it wants not merely for the provable impossibility of such
a want, but mostly for absence of
a want organ.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> phf: you may have been thinking of bash.org ? << i don't think he is and i have
a vague recollection of this from the very early 2000s that i also can't place
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i once met
a young girl who thought she is no good with math. she was creative you see, and on her grave was to be inscribed
a vintage purse rather than
a badly unresolved equation.
trinque: incoherent that they ever made
a public fight of it
phf: "i don't speak for hanbot for hanbot has
a tongue."
trinque: phf: took your example and wrote
a CLOS thing for pluggable services.
phf: there was
a blog in the early days of medium, that was basically snippets from irc conversations. my impression was that the display software was gradually hacked into turning out increasingly cleaner posts through various in-channel annotations, like ;tag, ;post, etc. there was significant amount of editorializing though. so someone was responsible, at the end of the thread, to turn it into
a post. we kind of have that adhoc, and md