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asciilifeform: so i go and send on another box and guess what, it had previous trb, and tx is high-s.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2016#1427352 << why would i put in 1 btc to get 0.99 out !?!??! ☝︎
nubbins`: phun phact, the first drip coffee machine i ever owned, i was making double-strength pots for the first 6 months until i made a cup for a guest one day
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i need the quote
nubbins`: also from the mouth of hanbot: "You weren't caught in some occult and unknowable coincidence that was out of your hands. You either didn't make sure you understood the basics of using bitcoin, or else you decided not to care. In either case, it is you that will have to adjust (and I do earnestly hope that you do; there are a lot of resources on this very forum, on IRC, and around the web that can help)."
mircea_popescu: i think i actually might have played this on the ipad back when i did teh "literature survey" for s.mg
danielpbarron: i mostly did cards in person. there was a windows client called apprentice i used a little
TomServo: both, I believe
TomServo: same. I should prolly divest them along with my bitcoins, eh?
danielpbarron: i used to play it; still got my cards
hanbot: mircea_popescu meh, i guess eskimociuciu has eternal representation so long as the current voice distributes so much chum.
nubbins`: i was done until mp decided he'd have another shot at his trump impersonation
nubbins`: hanbot i just heard about your 58mn ECu loss -- maybe when you're able to do something other than run the mouth and lose money, people might care what you have to say?
mircea_popescu: i'm just amusing myself, carry on.
ben_vouspes: i have no idea what point you're trying to make.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 23:10:34; ben_vouspes: nubbins`: and until bitcoin accounting standards include "these are the coins i am reporting on my balance sheet" this best case/worst case ambiguity will remain.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Thanks, I'll start working through it
williamdunne: I have an account somewhere, it's time I've been lacking. But if I can pick it up, that would be very kind, thank you
diana_coman: williamdunne, for practice, join eulora and I'll offer quests and training in Ro only, no problem
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Do you have anything in particular that you would care to see translated, ideally something that isn't literal poetry? Yeah I've only just started picking RO up, so it would probably be a slow process..
mircea_popescu: hehehe. so go for it. but note that the guy was a native speaker. trilema, and especially ro trilema, is incredibly tense. in fact i do not believe harder source text exists in the whole 2k year history of the place.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> what is personal life? is there impersonal life? << funny enough, this actually came up in the harem recently. i liked the conclusion. public are all matters which can be expressed such that all the individuals who know of them can accept the expression. private is everything else.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile other people did things, and there he sat on ass, thinking to himself "oh heh, am i fucking special - all these idiots are sweating bullets and i think i'm exactly the same as them but much smarter because I'm not even doing anything!". aka sprezzatura, ie what happens when you overfeed and underbeat the children.
mircea_popescu: hanbot nubbins` is just doing his trademark low hanging fruit thing, "what's the lowest effort thing i could possibly do to maintain the pretense i'm doing something". that's his coping mechanism with life, it "worked pretty well" or whatever, it's what he knows, it's what he does. there's a whole stack of these idiots running around like pointless chickens, i dunno that much need be explained.
ben_vouspes: nubbins`: and until bitcoin accounting standards include "these are the coins i am reporting on my balance sheet" this best case/worst case ambiguity will remain. ☟︎
nubbins`: too bad for him, i guess
danielpbarron: no i've specifically seen the argument made from a winner that he needed the funds to seed his next bet
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> i never understood the whole "omg when are my winnings comming, i neeeed them!" << General Bitcoin related anxiety from having them away from One's keys
danielpbarron: i never understood the whole "omg when are my winnings comming, i neeeed them!"
nubbins`: yes, will pull those first. i think it's only a couple
asciilifeform: nubbins`: no worries, i will send it to you again when i get home.
nubbins`: asciilifeform i will check my records -- may or may not have kept
asciilifeform: phun phakt, it is a dilapidated post office, where the letters on the sign have fallen off, it is a 'p s ffic' now i think.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: l0l, meanwhile send my an addr plox, i have been away from home.
nubbins`: also, if you don't send me address for these shirts, i'm sending them to real nsa w/ your name on box 8)
asciilifeform: but i do recommend to nubbins` , to take a breather
nubbins`: i like you too
asciilifeform: i like nubbins` .
nubbins`: i didn't say "for surprise"
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 13:32:31; danielpbarron: i'm not interested in bitcoin if he's not interested in it
nubbins`: i'd say you wear your hemorrhoids like badges of war
danielpbarron: i wear my negative ratings like badges of war
davout: nubbins`: and I'm out of popcorn!
davout: nubbins`: i think you made some valid points, but this is not one of them
williamdunne: nubbins`: tbf while using the company wallet might be a bad habit, I don't think its an issue in itself, although reading through the logs it seems everything has gone to shit
asciilifeform: it would look exactly the same if ~i~ had paid the bet winners.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: did you miss the part where i point out that ~all of MY coin is just as 'mpex'y
davout: nubbins`: i fail to see how (b) implies (c), I can perfectly have an account on my own exchange, can't I?
nubbins`: i have no interest in reasoning with those who abandon reason
nubbins`: i just gave you (a) mp saying "thanks, here's your money, here's the tx", (b) the tx comes from mpex (c) the tx is not on mpex's books
nubbins`: danielpbarron at this point i feel ok telling you to fuck off.
danielpbarron: i hesitate to even attempt reasoning with you, because I believe you have "broken the joystick" so to speak
solrodar: I'm not accusing him of anything here, just giving a bit of context to the earlier discussion
danielpbarron: i am only growing my confident in my position
solrodar: nubbins`: I was also paid directly from the same mpex address for this work: http://trilema.com/2015/open-callgraph-for-therealbitcoin-in-svg-format/
BingoBoingo: Art project so far, base for impoler http://i.imgur.com/7izudGF.jpg and stuff above. 20' 7" of tree http://i.imgur.com/hLHlToY.jpg
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 12:58:05; nubbins`: asciilifeform i thought it was fairly obvious that MP had been divesting since he lost his shirt w/ MPOE?
nubbins`: williamdunne http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423536 is roughly around the time i finished reading qntra A Miner Problem article, with the first shot fired shortly thereafter ☝︎
williamdunne: Yeah I'm on Friday currently
williamdunne: Yeah the only one I didn't read seemingly
williamdunne: I must have missed this part on Qntra.. ok I'm going in
danielpbarron: i thought you read qntra
williamdunne: Seems like I chose an exciting time to reappear
nubbins`: i'm just gonna fuck off for a while and see if anyone bothers to care about all this evidence
nubbins`: ben_vouspes i can't see any other explanation. mircea_popescu claimed ownership of B's inputs, and they came from MPEx. Best-case scenario, mircea_popescu legitimately received the funds from MPEx and paid the bettors out of pocket. Worse-case scenario, he paid the bettors directly with MPEx funds.
williamdunne: danielpbarron: the part of life I wouldn't talk in public
williamdunne: Difficulty in my personal life, nothing I couldn't recover from (obviously(
williamdunne: I got kicked, spent a while picking myself up. Wasn't reading the logs very often, only Trilema and Qntra
williamdunne: I'm down for working on that, I started learning last week funnily enough..
nubbins`: ben_vouspes i'm no blockchain analysis expert but that doesn't look like bitbet's money to me
PeterL: I was going to ask earlier, but it seemed like a silly question
PeterL: was it yesterday you said you were adding him to ignore? I was not sure if you still ignored him
nubbins`: i guess hanbot plays so much diablo and loses so much bet money that doing the books once a month is an unbearable burden
PeterL: mircea_popescu I am talking with nubbins`, I guess you have him on ignore still?
mircea_popescu: PeterL here's the thing : in my scrollback you appear as engaged in a lengthy monologue which twice now highlighted me. are you going to take a break on your own or do i have to ignore you for a while ?
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 04:52:38; hanbot: hey mircea_popescu, is it okay if i defer this month's pc4 report and combine in april?
mircea_popescu: i... get it. ok. very funny. sigh.
mircea_popescu: "As for requirement [4], my sofa may have bugs, such as mites, spiders, or maybe even fleas. However, I have found no evidence on the web that such invertebrates have the power to cause theft of anything, much less theft of digital assets on other sidechains."
mircea_popescu: i dunno, stolfi's nonsense.
PeterL: I guess no bets made or resolved in feb
nubbins`: i guess the bet money didn't go out.
PeterL: I don't see one for february
PeterL: just a sec, I'll find it eventually
nubbins`: i'm saying that by paying his workers only in shares, mp gets people to work for free.
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>nubbins`: do you think it would have made a difference to me, if i had been paid $12k ? <<< i'm not saying you should have taken the same amount of $$ for running s.nsa as i should have for a dozen hours' work.
asciilifeform: which i'd mostly have to spend looking for new work.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: do you think it would have made a difference to me, if i had been paid $12k ?
nubbins`: if i'd not recevied any cash, but stock warrant only -- i'd be as broke as you, no?
nubbins`: i said no, that's retarded
nubbins`: i said shares as remuneration is a fish hook
nubbins`: asciilifeform no, that's not what i said.
mircea_popescu: yeh. i got this feeling he was hatching somerthing.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what happened to him.
nubbins`: asciilifeform i don't own any MPEx stocks, nor am i shorting any MPEx stocks
hanbot: at the rate this is going, i'd almost rather be sent back to the forum, honestly.
nubbins`: i don't mean feb's
nubbins`: i'm fighting for the side of logic and reason
nubbins`: asciilifeform nor do i, understand this!
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i don't even have a dog in the fight, understand this.
nubbins`: and then i made mp angry