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asciilifeform: and, INTERESTINGLY, i owned the copyright, and then spun off the thing as product, and NO ONE BOUGHT
mircea_popescu: PeterL i thought you did run it on windows.
asciilifeform: but i was not ~hired to do this~, but for something else, i did it as an extra thing
asciilifeform: btw i once spent year+ reversing (successfully) an instrument.
mircea_popescu: which i suppose is as good an explanation as any as to why i don't marry : i own my equipment.
mircea_popescu: a girl i own, i can order to plug into whatever cock i choose. a girl you borrow from her parents - only with prior written permission from owner.
PeterL: Okay .... I don't know where you got the idea any equipment borrowing is going on here?
mircea_popescu: by the same measure, i'd prefer the lab that owns its machinery rather than borrow it from unknown people in unspecifiable conditions.
PeterL: I guess I would say the one that owns a building
mircea_popescu: incidentally, maybe i have a better approach re the other thread. do you suppose PeterL that if you had to take a job with one of two labs, absolutely the same offer in every respect, you'd take the job with the lab that rents space in random buildings or with the lab that owns its own building ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL yes, i'm aware that if we felt like it, we could just buy visa hurr durr.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:24:40; asciilifeform: i.e. that the collective of miners CAN exclude certain tx.
mircea_popescu: well, i dun know how it'd be otherwise said, so i guess we let it lay ?
PeterL: I'm just trying to figure out what you are trying to argue here?
mircea_popescu: i also use women i didn't make myself...
mircea_popescu: so i do.
mircea_popescu: i... don't know how to pay.
mircea_popescu: no, which is why i don't hire osen.
mircea_popescu: (and yes that means i can read my own fucking x rays, and say to the doctor what he says back to me.)
mircea_popescu: and i have not to date hired anyone to do anything whatsoever i don't know how to do myself. how would i pay them ?
mircea_popescu: i would not hire, eg, "apple laptop fixer".
mircea_popescu: PeterL i only hire plumbers because i know how to fix my pipes.
asciilifeform: my list is not complete until i'm dead...
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> PeterL and if you tell the head manager that this is a miserable abdication from his job - which is to assure you the stuff will work no matter what, he says ? << If the equipment does not work the way it is supposed to, we speak to our contact and he fixes it, I don't see any abdication of job by manager here?
asciilifeform: and i listed many of them here.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429190 << this is sadly not much more than a restatement of the independent vertical credo, "where do i get just the facts". bear in mind that this vertical is a creation of the usg agitprop machine and nothing more. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: uh i dunno...
mircea_popescu: PeterL i tohuhgt you were scientists ? "this experiment came out right - what more ?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i only ever worked in godforsaken usg labs.
mircea_popescu: PeterL i only do what with women of a certain age.
mircea_popescu: and of course i'd prolly have a wailing chorus of stakeholder idiots, whom i'd tell the usual get fucked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> because how do you budget for that. << i have no idea wqhat the because would be, other than idiots. if i ran the lab i would, simply on grounds of independence.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429161 << this is actually a very juvenal-ish image. yet i don't recall it as a thing. ☝︎
PeterL: <asciilifeform> i saw a win98 box once, uninfected, i shit thee not. it was connected to an alarm system, in a closet, no net connection, for decade. << my previous job we had a windows 98 box dedicated to a piece of equipment
PeterL: <thestringpuller> I haven't had to reinstall windows on my gaming rig in 3 years << I havn't had to reinstall the OS on my mac in 9 years, it mostly sorta still works
asciilifeform: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/08/article-2034658-0DC6E85C00000578-158_634x628.jpg
PeterL: thestringpuller I am not really strong on history, I would say 1800s, peer reviewed journals became a thing
asciilifeform: i suggest that the craft of producing mircea_popescu henceforth be referred to as momotronics. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429131 << more complicated than that (for instance - i engage enemy on his strong turf all the time, i just don't engage it on its ~chosen~ turf except for final battle), but in principle sure. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i saw a win98 box once, uninfected, i shit thee not. it was connected to an alarm system, in a closet, no net connection, for decade.
assbot: I Believe I Shall Destroy The Stock Market Again - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xg36LW )
funkenstein_: http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/i-believe-i-shall-destroy-the-stock-market-again-16327
thestringpuller: I guess using my machine for single purpose- Netflix and Steam, has limited risk.
thestringpuller: I dunno how all these people get malware in windows.
thestringpuller: I haven't had to reinstall windows on my gaming rig in 3 years.
shinohai: I wasn't aware you could use "Windows" and "Security" in same expression?
thestringpuller: i'm more specifically pointing out formative moments like in 2001 when the monkeys encounter the monolith
thestringpuller: i don't think there are any grants for turning led into gold
thestringpuller: I agree we should stop playing fast and loose with the scientific method tho...
thestringpuller: modern alchemy? psuedoscience in a sense... But I was more referring from the psychological transition of viewing the world through the lens of alchemy vs. that of chemistry ☟︎
shinohai: Funny I was looking at that same article before gf came over.
trinque: funkenstein_: it makes more sense for you to make your own decisions about which patches you like, and if I don't like it I'm free to alter your patch to suit me
funkenstein_: so when trinque asks me to regrind, perhaps I should ask him for his tree ☟︎
funkenstein_: asciilifeform, so if I would like to make/rebase a patch.. i should take the longest chain I have seen as the base of the diff?
PeterL: <asciilifeform> the kitchen, regardless of what ants may think, was NOT built as an ant restaurant. << I dun get it, how does miners not including your txn equate to raiding the kitchen?
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: i suggested 'longest chain with sigs S1, S2, ... Sn' earlier.
asciilifeform: and i will say, for last time hopefully, i have nfi !11
asciilifeform: srsly i have nfi, ask him.
asciilifeform: i have nfi btw why mircea_popescu sent a 0fee.
funkenstein_: can you exclude me from your dinner even though I have a valid mouth?
asciilifeform: i.e. that the collective of miners CAN exclude certain tx. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ftr i still see the high-S thing as a deplorable compromise
asciilifeform: i even was starting to think that i'd have to write my own malleatron.
asciilifeform: it was still in limbo when i woke up.
nubbins`: block 401820 for your records! i'd only re-checked this morning
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: i dunno about your planet, but on mine it is state of the art.
funkenstein_: i guess if it is repeated enough, it is indeed in the canon
asciilifeform: and i'm not even a mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: i have about 1/2 of it.
trinque: oh I don't know, learning math?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has the canonical advice, i cannot beat it, have 1000 children, beat'em within a mm of their life, kill the dumbest 9/10th
trinque: I have trb dev time today. it does not address the point made about education and its function in a culture
trinque: I suppose spartans just sorta emerged
funkenstein_: asciilifeform: health is still ~1k/mo. <-- I LOLed
asciilifeform: even if i could speak to them.
asciilifeform: and i could not necessarily persuade them that it is a good idea.
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428522 <-- one thing i've learned reading here is that this attitude leads to thermodynamic death / intellectual wasteland more quickly than i had expected ☝︎
asciilifeform: i fully expect that it will take 100+ yrs of AGGRESSIVE sanity to create the peoplecaliber of 1980 again.
asciilifeform: trinque: i think i lost the head of the thread?
trinque: *they* made this world, and what is the proposal for the other? I suppose engineers and mathematicians will burst from the womb having spent 9 months proving theorems
trinque: I can see very well that you're not engaging me on the turf I proposed
jurov: it's me too, i'll keep it for ml
mod6: i guess therealbitcoin.com expires on 22-10-2016
mod6: ah. i think you can let it go. we've got 'thebitcoin.foundation' for at least the next 4 years iirc. (good until 2020), and im not sure about therealbitcoin.com -- i didn't register that one.
jurov: mod6 no, there was promo for .info. so i regged it and forgot
asciilifeform: i actually understand very well why mircea_popescu does not want any of this to EVER become about armies of trainable fungible folks.
jurov: i forgot i registerd it and now it is expiring, asking if you want to add it
asciilifeform: while i have some to give.
asciilifeform: all i can offer is this other kind of force.
asciilifeform: i hate to disappoint folks, but i'm .. not made of book
trinque: I've heard plenty of reasonable criticism of autodidactism
trinque: I was hoping for the reading list!
funkenstein_: <trinque> hey, regrind your vpatch and I'll sign it <-- thanks trinque :) trouble is I'm not sure what base to regrind from
jurov: mod6 ben_vulpes i have got bitcoin-foundation.info domain, should i toss it too?
BingoBoingo: there is also locust tree I am not candidate because it likely no longer has a solid core and will likely require its removal to be outsourced.
asciilifeform: there is an excellent scene of 16 c. horse-drawn impalement in the pl film 'Ogniem i mieczem' ('with fire and sword').
BingoBoingo: Aha! I have three trees several times too big then and none the right size. I like the big ones though. Will have to look up primary sources.
asciilifeform: the last instance i recall of a formal sentence of impalement was, iirc, in 1740s, and it was commuted at the last minute to beheading
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will have you know that yours is a very thin tree.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 13:30:05; shinohai: Speaking of stakes, I wonder how BingoBoingo impalement project is coming.