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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no such thing as "everyday work" anymore.
mircea_popescu: anyway, while the quoted article is remarkable in toto as a fine sample of what wikipedia is, intellectually, the "break all the mirrors" fatlogic reaction is not limited to wikitards.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the pedestrian notion of value and worth certainly have practical problems.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, things such as "buy up all the grain and lock it in the basement", which are EXACT equivalents - antieconomic underutilization, are... also "firmly negative". well which the fuck is it!
mircea_popescu: firmly in what sense ? if the company is worth less than its parts, then this is a case of underutilization of capital goods. someone somewhere is starving because you decided to keep the warehouse empty.
mircea_popescu: "Asset stripping has presented itself to be a highly controversial topic within the financial world. The positives of asset stripping generally lie with the corporate raiders, who can slash the debts they may have whilst improving their net worth.[6] However, the general perspective of asset stripping is firmly negative."
mircea_popescu: recall the time when eu zone declared short selling illegal ?
mircea_popescu: trinque quite. and also you know, "campaign against fake news", "campaign against bullying", "campain against online trolls" and what have you.
mircea_popescu: which severance is reinterpreted internally as "liberating" - the same kids who ENJOYED getting out of the house when they were 18 then cry when their parents die. but why ? weren't you so fucking happy to be rid of them ?
mircea_popescu: ah. it is a failure mode ; the feedback is perceived by the i-subject as dolorous, and if there's too much of it the only way to rescue the ideology is to sever the feedback.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, anyone looking for a good source of the subversion of "stem" in the us may as well go read feyerabend)
mircea_popescu: they seek self-actualization, not reality-adequation after all.
mircea_popescu: and so therefore - no, they're not doing anything in town but playing eulora. it has ~nothing to do with farmer, miner or soldier.
mircea_popescu: the system is strictly bound in this manner ; and that decides the results.
mircea_popescu: there ISNT an outcome where they go on reddit and wikipedia to say the opposite of what they think, see ?
mircea_popescu: if luck/skill/process/whatever feeds them, they'll be fed and go on reddit and wikipedia to say what ~they think~ about it. right or wrong.
mircea_popescu: there is no feedback between the hardware and the ideology ; and consequently matters of existence are irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no actual link between these two planes, you udnerstand ? consider that the idiots who thought hillary will win, DIDN'T yield once she didn't win. consider the above story of dreamers, and ALL experience without exception.
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental syllogism that informs all the outwardly-insane human behaviour.
mircea_popescu: "you" isn't anything. for while you are - you are ; and once you're no longer, you're no longer.
mircea_popescu: could you say "whenever someone clicks on some grass to make a bundle and process it into coarse frangible thread - they are gambling with the proceeds of the actual irl farmer and miner, and soldier." ? sure. does it actually say anything however ? i dun see what.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not really. in fact, they're just playing eulora.
mircea_popescu: this is the essential point, that shock of the alzheimer patient who sees self in the mirror and calls the police to report a burglary.
mircea_popescu: nobody has clean hands (go to a bio lab sometime, see). however - city gamblers feel their city gambling hands to be ~theirs~ to a larger degree than rural gamblers do.
mircea_popescu: (and yes farming is entirely chumpatronics, of the worst ilk. as dean martin once said, "my old man used to gamble that he'd get rain. i figure if a man's gonna gamble, might as well eschew plowing."
mircea_popescu: however it is telling that the leavers all seek the same thing - and it isn't the city per se. it's just "self-realization" ie, the opposite of the above alienation. essentially, they seek to not be chumpatron engineers.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this is not universally true however. even in the narrow urban-rural-1970s universe discussed, there are some who are more alienated by the urban than the rural, prefer to live on the farm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the pig farmer didn't experience alienation the pig farmer's daughter would be under my table begging to suck my cock or anything else so she doesn't have to go back to the pig farm.
mircea_popescu: yeah ; but i was allowing his loose coupling maybe something comes of it.
mircea_popescu: while alienation is a fact of life ; i scarcely see the merit in building it in deliberately ffs.
mircea_popescu: how exactly does one defend against the very sartre-ian angoisses in this context ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but see the fundamental problem with this ? why should i wish to be far away from my life's work ? what am i, some sort of celenterate ?
mircea_popescu: they ~are~ destined for a blow up, willy-nilly, because they're not tanks.
mircea_popescu: finally giving a formal dress to a long held but not expressed notion that it is a waste of one's time to try building chumpatrons.
mircea_popescu: that's, i suppose, the actual point here : that while building chumpatrons ~is~ feasible ; and in many actually encountered circumstances it ~is~ productive ; nevertheless a chumpatron is not a tank. not merely by coincidence of design, like a spoon is not a fork, but could pass for a fork in a bind. a chumpatron is not a tank fundamentally, nor could ever be a tank of any kind to any degree, much like a stove can't cool your
mircea_popescu: it ~may~ give you VD ; but it's not making you any children.
mircea_popescu: yes, and the average piece of fresh river mud can be fucked (in any hole!) even more times, even more before breakfast.
mircea_popescu: i was amused at what the us state dept imagines average romanian may believe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform during ro elections all sorts of "luminaries" of a very evident mercenary bent did pieces about how soros ain't that bad - wasn't even ever convicted!
mircea_popescu: well in retrospect it may be whatever, but at the time it was more of the same "human potential unlocking" gargle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, soros is not particularly relevant, bergson-popper-etc
mircea_popescu: pretty much everything current in "progressive" circles is built on that ideological platform.
mircea_popescu: it's actually ~why~ it was decided aol may sell internet subscriptions.
mircea_popescu: evidently the correct solution is ~a correctly closed society~, not the hallucination of an open one. but then again the republic takes thinking, and so...
mircea_popescu: so it occurs to me that the ~only cold war ideological response to totalitarianism (more or less soros' mental construct of "an open society") is kneejerk nonsense of the prime order, very much in line with the proposition that "subverting cryptography increases security" or "gun bans increase security" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: ajajaja wait wait, i could hijack any bot loading trilema via curl ?
mircea_popescu: but it is CERTAINLY unfair that he's fucking dumbs as rocks and i am not.
mircea_popescu: it's maybe unfair that whoever is running that "shop" doesn't have as much money as i do. it is maybe unfair that whoever is running that "shop" didn't go to as good a school, or have as good parents, or as alf points out, didn't have as well housed a library at home. fine.
mircea_popescu: no see, that's about education. ie, equality ~of chances~ or whatever the fuck. the issue however is equality of substance.
mircea_popescu: "By adding "required" to the Answer box input tag solves the captcha requirement issue." is prolly the best part.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, isn't it fucking weird that the progre and libtard preoccupy themselves with economic inequality so, but never seriously considered intellectual inequality ?)
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587072 << the evolution of paul graham's internet : first, ashley madison made a site where scripted "women" interacted with loser men ; then, a bunch of kids made a bunch of sites where scripted "users" interact with scripted "users" : facebook, reddit, instagram, twitter, you name it. ALL of them, simply put.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you know airline pilots have mostly girls, yes
mircea_popescu: (pretty clever design - you could hook the glass pane out by lifting it.)
mircea_popescu: hey, my own library housed thousands of volumes in the standard romanian bookshelf, which yes had glass
mircea_popescu: hey, there is such a thing as old money, even in the usa.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, they have this crazy shit here - picconia excelsa. the wood hardens SO MUCH as it dries you can't fucking work it
mircea_popescu: get the nice aromatic red, it'll beat about half the hardwoords you can run across.
mircea_popescu: dude cedar has a bending strength of like 9. better than chestnut.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's not just canadian wood ; all sorts of thing
mircea_popescu: eh, maybe if i had boys. bu for girls no metal necessary.
mircea_popescu: i knew cedar to make great boats ; but cedar also makes great beating sticks!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a black and white cookie. you know, because solstice is like equinox.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i expect once the land/ownership update makes it in, eulora will give a run for their money to a lot of peoples.
mircea_popescu: hey, gotta leave some room for future growth lest the webcommenters win the webattle.
mircea_popescu: do they have science in your country ? how about tedx ?