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asciilifeform will photo-chronicle , in case e.g. diana_coman wants similar item in that british rack
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:43:57 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945955 << this incidentally is a great service!
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946050 << there will be a set of 'din rails' for expandable-on-demand, properly ventilated rk plant. already purchased .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:44:55 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945992 << "force majeure" does not apply to events ordinary in the course of business.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946072 << the derps will prolly try to argue that 'extraordinary ddos' at which pt BingoBoingo will pull out those garbage charts they sent in.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:44:12 mp_en_viaje: b) it is unlikely any lawyer you don't previously know will treat this as anything but a meal ticket. much like usg doctors don't treat the underlying condition in the sense of getting rid of it, but treat it as a cash cow, in the sense of maximizing their own income from it, the whole fucking point of knowing lawyers ~prior~ to needing them rather than once you need them like the retail-buying schmuck is so as to
asciilifeform: even considering this , imho oughta be tried.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946065 << exactly. gotta make the attempt, BingoBoingo, mod6 .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 11:01:02 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, traditional method is people buy the shell of co with reg and naught else.
asciilifeform: currently seems like the method mp mentioned is the only way to weasel out of the massive 'yearly maintenance' extortions, there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:05:53 mp_en_viaje: it's a thing, and as long as it's a thing you own some ; dun even matter what you think about it, you can deem it as evil as you wish ; as long as it's a thing you get yourself some.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946045 << i entirely buy the argument. and will also buy ip -- when either asciilifeform figures out how to do it for 'toyota' rather than 'boeing' budget, or -- larger budget ;
lobbes: and with that, I'm also off to sleep
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:44:58 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946013 << php is perfectly fine. there should be a counter somewhere keeping a "max disk size" setting, an inventory of total bytesize, and that deletes oldest-first when the former exceeds the latter.
lobbes: I will apply said patch tomorrow and see if that fixes things
lobbes: but I think I forgot to re-apply the later hanbot patch for html in comments. Possib. BingoBoingo also forgot.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-17 04:55:44 mp_en_viaje: i thinj you folk might've fucked your installs in some manner, for srs.
mp_en_viaje: neways, ima go try and catch some more zzzs, this is fucking ridoinculous already.
mp_en_viaje: i mean no leading slash is one thing, but no dbl dash within at all ?! that's nuts, how do you even do http://trilema.com/2015/open-deed-system-for-bitcoin-assets-updated/#comment-111524 ?
mp_en_viaje: i thinj you folk might've fucked your installs in some manner, for srs.
mp_en_viaje: in continuing lulz : http://bingology.net/2019/10/16/reasonable-lamp-setup-for-mp-wp-on-centos-6-and-anyserver-terms-of-use/#comment-1385 went through as such, but originally read you break it -- you buy it, which led to stale page.
mp_en_viaje: in today's keks : hey lobbes, if i try to add "/me nods along benevolently." as a comment it says "stale page", but if i remove the leading slash it doesn't anymore
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946023 << fwiw, none of this is anything like that. 100% insane czech 1990s internet over here, i can't comprehend wtf they are doing. then again, the road south is about 50% "men at work" holes by mass (looks like they're making it 3-lane), so i guess once they're done with that maybe they build their comms infrastructure too ? pretty ridoinculous situation tbh.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 20:49:54 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: mp-wp bot's spitting of the files, do you want some automated cleanup of said directory at every Nth file, or fine to just leave them be? Also, are you fine if they are static php files or is html (with teh embedded php) an absolute must?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946013 << php is perfectly fine. there should be a counter somewhere keeping a "max disk size" setting, an inventory of total bytesize, and that deletes oldest-first when the former exceeds the latter.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 15:06:03 BingoBoingo: And whatever "Force Majure" they try to claim with respect to internet weather can't indemnify them against their agents saying stupid and dishonest things.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945992 << "force majeure" does not apply to events ordinary in the course of business.
mp_en_viaje: needless to say, the sum doesn't need to be exact, it needs to be ~defensible~, by the empire's specifically typical "nobody could accuse me" omnistandard. wink wink.
mp_en_viaje: we/?b=Part%20II&e=sures#select (certainly inasmuch there's no fee).
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 20:41:09 mp_en_viaje: and, i suppose, file a complaint for theft with your local police station, listing what you recall of what they made off with "and others", and whatever, $10k or w/e the aggregate cost fairly was.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 15:01:31 BingoBoingo: I'm thinking something like: I propose we mutually end this contract. Here's a draft termination agreement for your consideration: [very basic mutual termination letter notably omitting any waiver holding them harmless for their breaches while including a waiver of all claims they may have/invent against me] and ask them what language and terms they want to include in the agreement to avoid "[http://logs.ossasepia
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945985 << alternatively, go to police station, file simple theft compaint, as per http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944983 and let them figure it out ; it'll be something a lot like http://trilema.com/2019/how-the-good-folk-at-kj%C3%B8lberggata-29b-0653-oslo-norway-dba-variously-as-central-city-apartments-kampenhotellno-reise-byra-bala-suman-balasundaram-etcetera-attempt-to-scam-me-
mp_en_viaje: now all'o this said, it's still your show, run it as you please, i'm not about to hold that against you. but i also can't pass all this in silence, take it if it's useful or leave it if not as all advice ever.
mp_en_viaje: in any case, the universal basic wisdom of people interacting with the empire of stupid, from old us army hands to the days samuel pepys was tryna get a navy going / mind the business of his lord sandwich (not that one, another one) is -- put things in there to have what to cut off. why exactly
mp_en_viaje: the fact that you don't "close the contract cleanly" is a cost to them and them alone, it affects you exactly not at all. let them pay for the service if they wish to have the service -- says the man who'd bill the US congress appearance fees to testify before it, like any other TV network.
mp_en_viaje: c) you're thinking too cleanly, which is adequate for republican work but inadequate to interfacing work (a point somewhat reminescent of this php discussion). it's the empire of shit for a reason, let it have it.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno if i make myself clear on this fucking obvious score, because it's never easy to guess when the obvious has been belaboured enough for they for whom it wasn't, somehow, obvious -- but please ask q's qs.
mp_en_viaje: re the above, "no he won't".
mp_en_viaje: b) it is unlikely any lawyer you don't previously know will treat this as anything but a meal ticket. much like usg doctors don't treat the underlying condition in the sense of getting rid of it, but treat it as a cash cow, in the sense of maximizing their own income from it, the whole fucking point of knowing lawyers ~prior~ to needing them rather than once you need them like the retail-buying schmuck is so as to be able to authoritatively answer
mp_en_viaje: n there.
mp_en_viaje: though it's thoroughly fucked that erstwhile "richest country in the world", they're not ordinary, kyle, and none of this can't possibly be happening to them, and surely if they just close their eyes harder and wish stronger-er the cock's going away, believe. girlihood problems. also, uruguay poor, as a 2nd consideratio
mp_en_viaje: death than go on their knees begging.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 14:37:57 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun expect it is possible to get serious damages outta the latech corpse. but if you botch this basic step entirely, i expect uy will become a very hot bath for BingoBoingo .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945974 << practically : a) they may offer a little for you to go away, but this is unlikely because, principally, ustarded 3-ring binder "corporation" bullshit ; as evinced many other places, usgtarded precious cuntlets (which is 100% what usgistani "corporations" are anymore, since they started hiring the stupid cunts, and then gave "hr" and "corporate" bla bla over to them) would rather starve to
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 14:27:56 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm thinking I propose we sign some text to end the contract by mutual consent, this leaves open the opportunity to pursue damages for the breaches unless they start negotiating some compensation. At this point though I'm inclined to just get the stitches attaching my scrotum to them cut, but if you really want me to pursue damages I can try that but it will require as MP pointed out... time in to U
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 14:15:50 diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:05:53 mp_en_viaje: it's a thing, and as long as it's a thing you own some ; dun even matter what you think about it, you can deem it as evil as you wish ; as long as it's a thing you get yourself some.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:59:44 mircea_popescu: that's what you do with every dime you can save : you buy your own tools! to become journeyman!
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945965 << i would suggest you ask for money. you really have ~0 incentive to let them walk. you don't have to pursue anything specifically for this, either.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945955 << this incidentally is a great service!
mp_en_viaje: and that http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-16#1936667 discuission dovetails RIGHT in here, too. this is why that.
mp_en_viaje: motherfucker, it ate my last line. sorry, my internet is so shitty ima have to go into async mode here. offline block below :
mp_en_viaje: it's a thing, and as long as it's a thing you own some ; dun even matter what you think about it, you can deem it as evil as you wish ; as long as it's a thing you get yourself some.
mp_en_viaje: you can't say "i'm not going to own ANY".
mp_en_viaje: the "oh, we're about to replace ye olde internet anyways" works as an argument against TRYING TO CORNER THE MARKET. that's a very different thing, you might say "i don't intend to own a quarter of all ips because tmsr's gonna replace the dumb shit anyways".
mp_en_viaje: very similarily, to be person must have a few senators, a few houses, a few cars, a few women etc etc. either you have a few of all the kinds of things that exist or you're not a person.
mp_en_viaje: you gotta have some of everything to be. this is the bar. as a schoolchild in sovok, gotta have a slingshot, and a tube for shooting paper cone things, and i dunno, a depeche mode casette tape or w/e the fuck you faggots did back in the day.
BingoBoingo: trinque: I do have the original .tar.gz.gpg files, yes. Also have a server now.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 12:56:37 asciilifeform: sounds moar like e.g. usa real estate, than btc.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945947 << the idea wasn't that it's "like bitcoin" functionally, ie, works the same way. the idea was that it's like bitcoin substantially, ie, IS the same thing.
mp_en_viaje: what the fuck is going on with me, i'm morphing into the borg over here
mp_en_viaje: jeez, spent the night with a bottle and a gaggle o' sluts at the strip club, slept for a few hours and i'm like... up.
trinque: do you have the originals in case someone wakes up after I delete?
trinque: BingoBoingo: looks like anyone that cared grabbed their backup from me already.
BingoBoingo: lobbes: ty, changed it to link about the think instead of the thing.
lobbes: BingoBoingo: the archive.is (http://archive.is/GONGW) link in the above Qntra goes to a "not found" (at least on my end)
BingoBoingo: In other local news court issued a restraing order against the outgoing President and his cabinet forbidding their continued use of the Presidential web to spread election propaganda.
asciilifeform: ^ the ddos people are sleepin' on the job tho
baitbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 9d 3h 33m
asciilifeform reserving 3 whole u for rk (up to 48 will fit...) in experimental cage. and folx encouraged to install e.g. 'bouncers' -- the sooner find out what kinda flood this thing will eat, the better imho
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946003 << genuine bug, and ty lobbes , eagle eyes.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: mp-wp bot's spitting of the files, do you want some automated cleanup of said directory at every Nth file, or fine to just leave them be? Also, are you fine if they are static php files or is html (with teh embedded php) an absolute must?
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/16/reasonable-lamp-setup-for-mp-wp-on-centos-6-and-anyserver-terms-of-use/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Reasonable LAMP Setup For MP-WP On CentOS 6 (And 'anyserver' terms of use)
BingoBoingo: http://bingology.net/2019/10/16/reasonable-lamp-setup-for-mp-wp-on-centos-6-and-anyserver-terms-of-use/ << bvt hanbot nicoleci peterl Please note that anyserver is not the place to put IRC bouncers
mod6: Which, may be useful to have representation for such a discussion with the tards.
mod6: I feel like the best we can hope for here is to tear up the remaining part of the contract, which, iirc, continues through the end of Feb. 2020.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 not yet spoken, but asciilifeform 100% opposes any further movement of any kinda moneys ~into~ latech from piggy , on any pretext whatsoever. << Yeah, no more money for them.
lobbes: achtung panzers: ^ above vpatch for debugger toggle only. (No pressing need to update your bot.py right now unless you plan to debug it in the near future.)
BingoBoingo: The defensive reply from Friday suggests that is all. The man the put in charge of communicating with me has been neither candid nor honest. They also had the great misfortune of my walking in last Monday to see servers cooking, an incident that indicates they are not in fact running a datacenter by any recognized standard.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if that's genuinely ~errything~ they've going for'em, then BingoBoingo oughta win.
BingoBoingo: They seem to be counting on resignation and illiteracy.
asciilifeform: this is where i admit that i've nfi what sorta judges, etc. in that orcistan, and what e.g. latech is counting on when goes around scamming BingoBoingos. ( inaction of victim ? or connivance of judge ? or what is their krysha ? etc )
BingoBoingo: The civil and commercial codes were produced in a time when this country still had men and read thusly.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If this were a truly lawless orcistan there'd be more pichis squatting in poured concrete structures and less camping outdoors
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd imagine so; but given mp's reminder that 'yer in a ~lawless orcistan' ' what asciilifeform imagines ' aint worth the electrons, i suspect
BingoBoingo: And whatever "Force Majure" they try to claim with respect to internet weather can't indemnify them against their agents saying stupid and dishonest things.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, they have less time on their clock than I do.
BingoBoingo: But they can sweat a few more days.
asciilifeform: i'd comment, but this is squarely a q for actual abogado, and/or mp , quite above asciilifeform's grade .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 21:49:27 BingoBoingo: The remaining months of the contract, if they'd performed would have grossed for them maybe enough for them to get an ancient VW "Kombi" in the local automotive market that may or may not run. Maxi's "we want to work in an amicable way to finish this contract" sounds a lot like they want to say "please pay us to term even though we have become non-performant" while at the same time betraying the lack of balls and/
BingoBoingo: And remind them: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944993
BingoBoingo: -11#1944982][pursue the matter through the legal system, so as to bring you as close to never being able to perpetuate such in the future as at all possible]"
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking something like: I propose we mutually end this contract. Here's a draft termination agreement for your consideration: [very basic mutual termination letter notably omitting any waiver holding them harmless for their breaches while including a waiver of all claims they may have/invent against me] and ask them what language and terms they want to include in the agreement to avoid "[http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10
asciilifeform: the piggy aint the only resource, btw, being wasted, if there's 0 chance of a win, there is also BingoBoingo's time .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm 100% in favour, ftr, of suit. but before can use the piggy , must get prelim data and for mod6 to concur .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 21:50:30 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, nah, it reads like "legal told us we'll prolly end up paying through the nose and we told them we know better an' now gonna prove it! PEOPLE DO ANYTHING WE TELL THEM TO!!!"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944995 << I informed then in writing that they are in breach. Maxi's weasle response and their silence suggests they are aware expecting to receive notice of a suit.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so, as i understand, you have 2wks for to figure this item out.
asciilifeform: to lawyer -- maybe. if mod6 concurs. to get BingoBoingo out ? any day of week, and i promised to personally extract him if needed. but to latech, no pasaran.
BingoBoingo: I concur with no further money into their piggy bank.