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mircea_popescu: i think he still has the gpus
BTC-Mining: Well, he had GPUs, but he bought a lot of FPGA which is tradable for the new ASICs from BFL
mircea_popescu: yes but as the guy rightly points out, in order for something to be a bond it needs to meet some criteria.
BTC-Mining: Not to count difficulty was relatively stable before bitcoin prices raised
BTC-Mining: and there is already over 0.30 BTC paid back per share
BTC-Mining: mircea, for example, gigamining share holders will be able to pay 0.25 BTC to switch their 1 BTC IPO share (5 mhash each) to 4 shares (25 mhash each) for 20x the hashing.
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob : speaking of the bonds you or i can invest into, afaik the only such in btcworld are the MPOE bonds. care to go through them with me to check this theory ?
mircea_popescu: o hehe, is he that rich ?
smickles: i'll have to ask copumpkin if that 'event' was him cashing out
mircea_popescu: how can something that small be a thief ? you'd accidentallty smush it midrobbery
nanotube: smickles: oh, that's good :)
smickles: nanotube: you were mentioned as not being a thief and a lier, iirc
mircea_popescu: haha ty.
smickles: mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98491.40 get your pr lady to point out that it's not 'the best time to sell in a year', it's the best time to buy puts in a year
mircea_popescu: if anyone cares to weigh in.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100303.0 food for thought.
mircea_popescu: i think they have working prototypes already
mircea_popescu: or maybe even 22nm when that happens.
Luceo: usagi: That one too :P
BTC-Mining: At least ASIC is the last step and large price/hashing changes should be behind us from now on
BTC-Mining: As such, a stable fiat to BTC rate would seem better
BTC-Mining: As I see it, if bitcoin prices soars, you'd be better off keeping them (although you still earn more as difficulty adapt). If prices drop, you have too much hashing per price and returns decrease
BTC-Mining: and technically, the mining/equipment has raised in USD value
BTC-Mining: I meant that by investing in equipment with a fixed USD value, you want returns that can buy you more equipment.
mircea_popescu: all mining assets that didn't make 20% per month past 3 mionths are a net loss.
BTC-Mining: Considering that Difficulty is behind the price raise... well you'd have been better off keeping BTC
mircea_popescu: 33% depreciation through diff rate increase and 50% depreciation through btc appreciation
mircea_popescu: i forgot that
mircea_popescu: in strict depreciation terms all mining assets that didn't make at least 9% per month are a net loss.
mircea_popescu: did he make a nice site for them like
BTC-Mining: He got them a long time ago...
mircea_popescu: so did gigavps get his minis/rigs in the end ?
smickles: yeah, 2 glasses of wine will make me think the whole world revolves around my thoughts
smickles: i meant, i thought you were looking up in you database to verify when and at what price i bought them at
smickles: heh, yeah, i was confident that i'd make monyz when i made the buy
mircea_popescu: its how they werk.
smickles: i dunno, it doesn't make sense. it's the weekend, and i drink on the weekend
smickles: heh, i thought you were checking up on me
smickles: ah, this is what i get for bragging to the guy who runs the system
mircea_popescu: well, maybe they were cheaper earlier i dunno.
smickles: and this was my firs buy on those things
mircea_popescu: i think it musta been.
mircea_popescu: well ya, but these are options you see.
smickles: it wasn't much higher at the beginning of this month
mircea_popescu: mmm was that last month ?
mircea_popescu: on the graph price seems to have mostly been falling
mircea_popescu: see, i think 1,9k blocks is past the option expiry.
smickles: so, the value of a hash will likely only go lower
smickles: so... the diff rate will likely only go higher
smickles: mircea_popescu: there we are. but my point is, given the current ust/btc price history, the amount of hashes on the network has yet to catch up
mircea_popescu: thus, the insta value is like .05 and the value is .075 so naturally the bot values around .025
mircea_popescu: so if you sell for 0.075 something worth 0.005 then the sale itself should be worth 0.07
mircea_popescu: What this means is that the holder of one option has the right (but not the obligation) to sell 10 Th (that's ten thousand billion hashes, or approximately 2.77 Gh/s running for one hour) for 0.075 BTC
mircea_popescu: o no wait! the value is like 0.005. and the option says :
mircea_popescu: but i mean it's block * hashes by diff times 2^32 no ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: hmm, i think i used a different method to value it or something
mircea_popescu: so the bot seems to think the diff will up a lot.
markac: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for ^: 'float' and 'int'
usagi: Every time I see TYGRR.BOND-PI I think of Magnum P.I.
usagi: How about THUNDERCM.MIF.SHARES
usagi: What name Luceo? TYGRR PEE?
smickles: but still, it's like where you bot prices at is right at where the projected diffToBTC rate come out at, and we're in a strong uptrend on the difficulty
mircea_popescu: i forget the formula that turns hash into money
mircea_popescu: its not th/s
smickles: is it just me, or is this an insanely good buy?
rg: and hes had the same rating from me
rg: mircea_popescu: most of my trades are over $100
Luceo: usagi: I lol every time I see that asset name >_>
mircea_popescu: as any perfect system , the wot is only as good as the tech using it
Luceo: mircea_popescu: The flaw is that stupid people don't read the descriptions of the trades :P
mircea_popescu: and whales like me that do > 10k per trade are like, 11.
mircea_popescu: noobs like rg that do 10000 five bucks trades are rated +500
mircea_popescu: sadly the otc has one flaw
mircea_popescu: wait, the plot thickens. i think maybe it's an impostor ?
Luceo: ^ Worth more than ID
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 76, from 37 total ratings. Received ratings: 36 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 40 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: i intend to do a party, have all the girls politopless.
Azelphur: that's one way to advertise
Luceo: Is this a really complex form of
Luceo: The one on the bitvps photo book?
mircea_popescu: no, some pic of a juicy pair of tits
Azelphur: the terrifying one of you?
mircea_popescu: you saw that pic didn't you.
Azelphur: SS just basically sits there quietly, continually putting out and performing within expected parameters
mircea_popescu: i could send you the pic on tits i think.
Luceo: Send it to me, I can get someone to translate from Romanian
mircea_popescu: <Azelphur> it's weird all the hype has died down << you know i think there's a forum rule that only crappy investments can have hype.
Luceo: ^ And ugly tits don't count
smickles: mircea_popescu: if polimedia is, as you state, your company. then surely you can show me a pic of the company's logo/name on a bumpersticker which is itself on a pair of tits
Ignatius-otc: ciuciu do you have any evidence aside from the dns info?
Luceo: And idk what I'm going to do when StartSSL asks me to prove I'm Kim Jong-il, I mean he fucking died >_<
smickles: usagi, you crack me up. now i have a backlog of lines to read in this channel
Ignatius-otc: I have a few in the names of characters in science fiction books
mircea_popescu: no but srsly. the woman is my cto, it's her darned job to register domains wtf.
Luceo: MtGox want me to prove my name is Miles 'Tails' Prower :(
Luceo: usagi: Me too
usagi: Look, if you go hunting on me you will discover I have registered domains in the name of cartoon characters
mircea_popescu: you can call her martha tho.
mircea_popescu: no, that's my cto.
mircea_popescu: the tax # is 22530016 and it's operating today as the first day.