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dub: stop
trying
to approach
this with logic
mircea_popescu: A dedicated facility will be purchased or built on un-/under-developed land located in Maine due
to our cold 6 months out of
the year environment and lack of natural disasters. $150k will be set aside for
this purpose as a soft estimate.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu:
the only
thing I need
to do is add
to
the plan more specifics about
the datacenter now
that I've worked out
the cost and planning for it
Diablo-D3: very few DCs in
the US focus on
this
Diablo-D3: selling datacenter space
to customers who need high density computation is extremely profitable
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, mining isnt even
the issue
mircea_popescu: and so people aren't really very interested in facing
the cp risk involved.
mircea_popescu: as such,
the benefits of making a large company out of many fpgas are neglectable
mircea_popescu: be
that as it may,
the problems with your design are
that anyone can run
the newer fpgas.
the days when gpu's required competence from
the operator are gone.
mircea_popescu: fact of
the matter is all
this is pretty banal. a currency exists.
mircea_popescu: mno. i could just as well point out
that it's because mpex went from 300k
to ~5mn valuation, it's mpex
that people are speaking about.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: if other companies are going
to end up
taking
this route,
then
the people already have spoken
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you
think
this is something better left
to "people"
to say ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I didnt invent it bootstrapping
through bitcoin, Im making people
take it seriously
dub: I saw "Bitcoin Police" and closed
the page
mircea_popescu: it's sad what all
the prep
talks and "creativity"
training has done
to
this generation.
mircea_popescu: im reading up on
this jro drama.
these forum idiots... ah god
they're so friggin ridiculious.
they're exactly but exactly like any other 30something incompetent but ambitious circlejerk.
dub: mircea_popescu: because Diablo-D3 is delusional from all
teh crack rocks he smoked
PsychoticBoy: omg diablo how on earth are you ever going
to make 1M$
to make your company come
true?
dub: you need
to first smoke all
teh rocks
dub: you can't seriously
think you can have a serious conversation about DMC
mircea_popescu: you can't seriously
think you invented "bootstrapping"
though bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: if
talk makes you happy you should spend
time with whores.
Diablo-D3: kakobreklaa: bootstrapping
through bitcoin
Diablo-D3: theres
talk about other companies going
the same route as DMC
Diablo-D3: DMC is making
these small mistakes here and
there, and others ARE learning from it
mircea_popescu: surely.
the only
thing is
that
the market we can do nothing about.
Diablo-D3: a lot of
things have already gotten better because of DMC
mircea_popescu: cause i
think
this "being in a bad spot for being first" is mostly self-pity. in fact, it's in a bad spot by poor communication with market.
mircea_popescu: i
think you'd have been a lot happier if
that contract was better written
tbh.
Diablo-D3: and
there are no large scale investment funds
Diablo-D3: DMC is in a bad spot by being
the first. We can't just leave
the money sit
Diablo-D3: I'm ipo'ing as a company
that does many
things
Diablo-D3: now
they can afford
their own factory
Diablo-D3: they did business with another manufacturer
to get it done
Diablo-D3: Tesla didnt have a car factory when
they built
their company
Diablo-D3: [04:53:49] <Diablo-D3> I cant have
the hardware here at my house
mircea_popescu: if you ipo as a shoe factory you can't
take
the money and buy shoe factory shares in other factories
Diablo-D3: when google or amazon build a data center, its
thousands of racks
Diablo-D3: yes, but for what
the plan covers...
that IS a small scale.
mircea_popescu: if
they fail you don't end up with large capital costs writen off as losses
this way.
mircea_popescu: yes but
there's a reason, see ?
tghe reason is
that it's much cheaper
to
test
things out on a small scale.
Diablo-D3: theres no one else whos doing real world
things at
this large of a scale in
the bitcoin world
Diablo-D3: I actually wanted
to invest in someone else being
the first... but
there wasnt one
Diablo-D3: that still doesnt solve
the problem
mircea_popescu: commodification is a natural process, you can'd "do" it any more
than you can rain.
mircea_popescu: well i'll
tell you
this, unlike most everyone i don't
think you're necessarily foolish. maybe a little haughty.
the
thing is, it's not enough for something
to be hard
to make it worth doing.
Diablo-D3: I cant have
the hardware here at my house
Diablo-D3: but someone has
to be
the first, and being
the first is always hard
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: some people do agree with you on
the market not being ready yet
mircea_popescu: even in
that paradigm, i don't understand why you'd be holding other people's paper.
mircea_popescu: the problem with
this is
that
the market is not mature enough
to make
that move yet.
mircea_popescu: o i recall reading
that and pointing out
that you're
too late for
the 1mn bitcoin start-up.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: have you not read
the plan?
mircea_popescu: so we'll have
to leave your opinions on valuations aside for a moment.
mircea_popescu: well
the problem we have here is
this : you
think yours worth 1,
they go for .0x. you
think his worth .05
they go for 1.
Diablo-D3: the
trade volume doesnt include shares
trasferred
mircea_popescu: the dmc is doing nothing
to no market. it's 2k lifetime
trade volume clearly indicate
that.
mircea_popescu: giga's 5mh/s
trade around 1, you want
three of
those,
that's 3btc.
Diablo-D3: basically, DMC is locking down
the mh market and using
the output
to further fund
the plan.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: but
the next size
target for DMC is 15 mhash, so I'm
trading accordingly
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu:
they're not my private shares.
mircea_popescu: so basically you'll
take anything
to divest from your own company ?
Chaaaang-Noi: dmc .03ish and yet will
trade 2 of
them for an asset worth .1 lol
mircea_popescu: that kenna dude from
tradehill who is owen's partner in some land development
Diablo-D3: yeah but you know how
that goes =/
DeaDTerra: at least
thats what he says he will
DeaDTerra: Though I
think JRO is planning
to do whats right and repay
the investor.
Diablo-D3: explains why
their shit was locked
DeaDTerra: JRO,Matthew and
the whole crew in charge of ZipConf and Rebate.
DeaDTerra: With little
to no communication and a sea of lies and cover ups
DeaDTerra: What I do agree on is
that
this whole
thing has been run in a incorrect manner and with little respect
to
the investors money.
Chaaaang-Noi: mathew and zhou are in
the same boat :) call
them what you will lol
DeaDTerra: I wouldn't say
they are criminal,
they are innocent until
the opposite is
true.
DeaDTerra: I am just saying what I am
told, of course I don't know if ZipConf actually work.
DeaDTerra: There is no way
to know
the
truth unless it's proben.
DeaDTerra: I was feed a lot of bullshit, I was fooled and not
told
the whole
truth.
mircea_popescu: they don't love
the sort of half baked shit
that goes on on
the forums, sure.
Chaaaang-Noi: also deadt no offince but i
think you were feed a bunch of BS.