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Ignatius-otc: unsure but it was already stated you need enough to drastically impact the market if you were to just use an mtgox for the tx
mircea_popescu: the market trades 2mn coins a month.
Ignatius-otc: ahh, so when you go buy these massive amounts of coins and that act itself moves the amrket things get even more tricky
mircea_popescu: i'd buy the coins.
Ignatius-otc: There are always outliers. What if you mircea_popescu had an arbitrage opportunity that netted you over 20%, but you needed lots of coins to make it work?
Ignatius-otc: It would generally be safe to assume that yes, 7% is far too high of a return weekly.
Ignatius-otc: I was reading a thread one day with numerous pirate ponzi attacks. One fairly respected poster said anyone can see what pirate does by simply reading his posts. Within an hour of skimming pirates posts I felt I knew what he was doing, and it wasnt a ponzi. But again...just my opinion. It gave the impression those who called ponzi never even read the mans posts or checked his history.
Doffx: Small time to some I suppose, but its some sweet coin to me.
Ignatius-otc: not that I contributed to that mess...but still
Ignatius-otc: yup...if that poor guy manages to unwind all this I feel pretty abd about all the ponzi attacks he withstood
Doffx: thats the important part
Doffx: with the 7% interest
Doffx: Everyone will be paid back starting with the oldest accounts
mircea_popescu: anything interesting to say ?
Ignatius-otc: I didn't, ty!
Doffx: Hes in otc right now talking about it
mircea_popescu: as i said before, if the guy actually soft lands his btsc whatever i'll be quite impressed.
Ignatius-otc: odds wise...well Im no expert there are far more knowledgable people in this room alone...but imo I feel 100% confident I will be able to redeem for 1 btc per bond, as stated in contracts/as long as pirate doesnt default etc. I am not manually buying any more...so maybe the 100% quote is optimism...
mircea_popescu: i was curious to hear what odds you give that.
Ignatius-otc: If they do get redemmed for full deposit my bot did very well:P
Doffx: It has given me a great bit of new knowledge thats for sure.
Ignatius-otc: I believe the bonds to be worth 1btc still, but I am no expert and it's really up to pirate.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has this great advantage, that it's quite a cheap way to learn financials.
Doffx: More new to the financial portions my first 3 were all learning how to mine so I didint even pay attention to investments
Doffx: So I saw it then was too late.
Doffx: Well I should give more detail, I was new to bitcoin at that time.
mircea_popescu: i think it was free for ~6 weeks
Doffx: I went to hawaii that week
Doffx: I didn’t see it until to late.
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-otc well ya, i think it did half the month's volume today or some shit.
Doffx: Ill be the first to sign up
Ignatius-otc: yes but are there many visitors flooding mpex?
Doffx: Your doing it wrong then, time to open up those free accounts again.
Ignatius-otc: I leave you all to your own devices for 5 minutes and this is what happens...
mircea_popescu: smickles they're lucky they have no volume i guess.
EskimoBob: I got some for myself too
EskimoBob: damn those tygr-p looks good at 50% discount. Chaaang-Noi are you buying them right now?
gribble: Best bid: 12.0301, Best ask: 12.76002, Bid-ask spread: 0.72992, Last trade: 12.0301, 24 hour volume: 204861, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
gribble: Best bid: 13.01, Best ask: 13.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 13, 24 hour volume: 200654, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
mircea_popescu: to trade for 1mh bonds, Diablo-D3
gribble: There are currently 25720.459 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 283001.05594 USD in total.
Diablo-D3: I will not pay much for them, but I will buy them
Diablo-D3: I will buy them
Diablo-D3: I will take them off your hands
area: To be honest, the way it's bouncing around, even a market-maker bot will be doing pretty okay
Diablo-D3: now I have to wait until the 19th
Doffx: Man if you had an arbitrage bot running today
smickles: but the S²cm dividend wasn't included in either
gribble: Best bid: 13.00001, Best ask: 13.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 13.2988, 24 hour volume: 193338, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
MoneyIsDebt: heh, there's still a few 1dice in there... as if things weren't enough of a gamble at this point
gribble: Best bid: 12.96, Best ask: 12.99359, Bid-ask spread: 0.03359, Last trade: 12.96, 24 hour volume: 193198, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
smickles: the beeps may as well be a constant tone
mircea_popescu: was it going to mtgox ?
smickles: i think i just saw a 10k btc tx zing by the unconfirmed ticker
MoneyIsDebt: sorry that was for smickles
smickles: ok, totally wrong about that, it's way over 60
MoneyIsDebt: smickles: oh man , I forgot about the beeps
Doffx: yeah it went up after that 22k purchase
smickles: MoneyIsDebt: add that chart to the blockchain.info new transactions 'beep'
mircea_popescu: aha it's coming back to life huh
gribble: Best bid: 12.90513, Best ask: 13, Bid-ask spread: 0.09487, Last trade: 13, 24 hour volume: 192033, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
MoneyIsDebt: Doffx: pirate needs to buy probably
smickles: that 70k was what stopped us from going over 7.2 at the time
Doffx: especially when the pressure is to sell
Doffx: 20k during this volatility is interesting though
mircea_popescu: bobby deerfield. it turned out boring.
smickles: Doffx: i say a 70k order go thru the mtgox websocket once
Doffx: I thought you were watching a movie while holding some tits mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: is that bitpaste thing dead ?
Doffx: Dont think ive ever seen a puchase that big
mircea_popescu: MoneyIsDebt im sure they can, thing is... have to get enough of themn on the bandwagon
smickles: sgornick: mpex uses the ,,bc,24hprc , but yes
smickles: >2700 unconfirmed txes
sgornick: mircea_popescu: Are the options quotes on MPeX still valid for orders? I.e. arbitrage buy selling puts and buying at market is profitable right now?
gribble: Best bid: 12.34062, Best ask: 12.436, Bid-ask spread: 0.09538, Last trade: 12.34062, 24 hour volume: 184763, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
smickles: meh, not that
MoneyIsDebt: wonder if miners can frontrun mtgox this way
smickles: are there live stats on the network hashrate?
mircea_popescu: so when this block finally goes through and all the btc makes it to mtgox
Chaaang-Noi: i bet that next block has soooo many transactions
smickles: i guess the miners stopped too?
Chaaang-Noi: yeah that sucks
gribble: Best bid: 12, Best ask: 12.09998, Bid-ask spread: 0.09998, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 181801, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4
kakobreklaa: errybody shut down their miners
Lucidize: so just to be clear, yarr won't go above 1 now?
Diablo-D3: the DMC motion to suspend dividends was yea 8253, nay 914
Diablo-D3: btw for all the people who give fucks
smickles: ok, time to pay the SS dividend
farfi: he says he will pay interest up until the funds are sent
toffoo: where's it say that?
Diablo-D3: okay, thats fine
Diablo-D3: but hes still paying out the final week?
smickles: gonna return the principle
MoneyIsDebt: how much bitcoin was dumped in total just now?
usagi: I can imagine.. everyone with an account must be there now
usagi: Can't get a trade screen to open on glbse
farfi: its a day to remember
mircea_popescu: kakobreklaa a tit in each hand.
mircea_popescu: ima go watch a film or something, this is too much.
mircea_popescu: last trade 11.35