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mircea_popescu: not what i said.
asciilifeform: i commiserate that mircea_popescu thinks the 'idiot god' of hill-climbing optimizer is 'intelligence'
mircea_popescu: i am sorry strawman doth not make much sense and commiserate !
asciilifeform: i merely happen to live there.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433733 << i read it. marvelous tale. and - unsurprisingly - barfalicious hollywood film 50 yrs later. ☝︎
asciilifeform: or did i dream this.
asciilifeform: i distincly recall stipulation that all 5 games will be played against same thing ?
asciilifeform: though i have a few dozen mostly broken ones.
asciilifeform: i speak like diogenes of a single barrel.
asciilifeform: but i have nfi.
asciilifeform: i did not think anyone gave a fuck.
mircea_popescu: i am aware.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw the mask set i published here will build a depoetteringized (though not dedrepperized) gentoo, which will stay that way. but various more or less essential items, e.g., 'wireshark', will not build.
hanbot: phf / anyone who mac-erizes or might mess with gpgtools, tell me menu option & any steps involved in exporting pubkey if you have a moment? i'm trying to put a eulora wiki guide together and these derps have like zero documentation.
asciilifeform: i don't have another, functional os buried somewhere
asciilifeform: when i see that birdshot works on it, i know it is prolly not a mig...
asciilifeform: pretty much all i know about mpb comes from these !
trinque: I was doing just fine without a wallet using btcd
asciilifeform: i kinda assumed formerly that mircea_popescu fixed it in his
mircea_popescu: "Fix the motherfucking code before you have to be fired. To recap : a. If I want to make 1 Mb txs I make 1 Mb txs ; b. correct inputs are selected to feed the outputs as if a human or better was doing the selecting." << also march, as fate would have it.
mircea_popescu: trinque i recall me losing my top over this back in 2013ish or w/e the first time bitcoin-idiocy got in the way of bitbet, being told "oh wait, this is an actual problem - we don't resolve problems, we write code here at prb!"
mircea_popescu: trinque> I'm aiming to build the calls necessary to run deedbot's needs over shiva. << bless your heart.
mircea_popescu: my sister killed more than these by being a kid and accidentally stepping on their heads than i can recall.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but i never had a whole fucking chicken << seriously ?!
trinque: hypothetically I would like to simply be able to inquire the balance of any address at any time
trinque: I was simply keeping a sqlite db of txns
trinque: I can do the latter two outside too
trinque: asciilifeform: right, I would at least need sendrawtxn (can make txn elsewhere) but it would also be nice to have createrawtxn and signrawtxn I suppose.
asciilifeform: imho the mega-reasonable thing to do, and the thing i would be doing right now if not sitting on a stake possibly, is to abstract out the wallet idiocy
trinque: I'm aiming to build the calls necessary to run deedbot's needs over shiva.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1434092 << i learned one way to achieve this 'wonder' - doublespends followed by normal spend ☝︎
asciilifeform: why would anyone buy ? i still dun get it
asciilifeform: e.g., i run into grown man who never saw msdos
asciilifeform: incidentally every time i open my idiot mouth and talk to colleagues, another one of my 'every boy must have...' assumptions drops like a fucking fly.
asciilifeform: but i never had a whole fucking chicken
asciilifeform: i imagine every boy broke something when 'made to share' at some point
mircea_popescu: i prefer to practice safe sex rather than safe assumptions.
mircea_popescu: hey, i dunno what posterity is like. maybe they're retarded.
mircea_popescu: "no subway, no travel - i don't own a 1/100000 of the 100`000 spare car meta-pool, nor do i have anything to do that'd justify it."
adlai: oh i know, i already ready https://medium.com/my-satsang/on-k%C5%8Dans-and-turing-machines-adeac0844dac#.z82tdhxaw
mircea_popescu: whatever, kill him i guess."
mircea_popescu: i'm not sure there exists but i'm sure i don't know anything more offensive than the precious derpage in the eastern tradition.
mircea_popescu: so i made the mistake of following the tardpedia link. therein,
adlai: well it was definitely after i joined the channel, if that limits the search space.
adlai: it's 4:20, i got blunts to burn and chat to spurn.
mircea_popescu: i don't think justification was attempted.
adlai: mircea_popescu: i wanna answer with a log link, but the search is failing so i'll quote instead: "mircea_popescu: *-cide is never justifiable"
trinque: when I had a cat it killed things all the time, for fun.
nubbins`: oh FWIW i'm doing another run of posters https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387250.0
jurov: i wish i had rather not pay attention
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:50:11; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and at any point prior to march 2016 i would have readily believed that. now however, is simply something i can't discern.
asciilifeform: so now i go and see what 100,000 extra cars look like.
asciilifeform: but i was talking about mortals.
mircea_popescu: i did build and burn a number of fortunes, but in my younger years. nevertheless : you know, peter ALSO didn't HAVE TO take the imperial guard with.
mircea_popescu: i enjoy it so much i do it spuriously.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu this is a country where , i suspect, most folks' retirement plan is a .45 !
mircea_popescu: hahahaha. and similarly i know that they WOULDNT NEED TO pull the pin
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu knows that i'd be on the next flight if i were properly 13337 and knew how to pay the rentz there.
asciilifeform: i suppose.
mircea_popescu: i would propose to you that "destroying the keys" feels exactly like "moving to argentina" does to you.
mircea_popescu: so i can't compute this like you would. it's silent and cheap, not loud, not costly.
asciilifeform: evil satoshi is likewise present in any fork, unless you're convinced - and i am not - that enemy cannot win arbitrary pow miner buildout race.
mircea_popescu: im sorry, "detract from their capacity of stealing" is what i meant.
asciilifeform: i can see preserving old capital allocation re coinz
asciilifeform: i thought we were bugspraying the old gear people.
asciilifeform: ok now i'm thoroughly lost
mircea_popescu: what i read there was, have TWO hashes : sha(header+nonce) and sha(digest+nonce)
asciilifeform: (last night for example i formally turned down the 'encouragement' to try out for 'top secret' and may very well be sacked eventually because of it)
mircea_popescu: i think the record well reflects this.
asciilifeform: but i dun wanna.
asciilifeform: if i wanted to wear brown all i gotta do is, understand, cross the street
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my reaction now is same as then, i am willing to take part in 1,000,001 variants but not in capitulation to the motherfuckng nazis
mircea_popescu: (and generally i dunno why this shortcircuit between facts and judgement became fashionable here, seems much too close to the habits of the "independent" demographic for comfort. trust me, if i want to say x i will say it in those exact words, as i have without exception to date. saying i don't know x means i do not know. and similarly, here, and so on. i totally can speak for myself, say what i mean etc.)
mircea_popescu: i'm not pushing it either this way or that, just want to get all the things on table if possibru.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what all that was but anyways.
adlai: mircea_popescu: correct. i was hallucinating an alternate article, which said to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433851 ☝︎
adlai: well what do i go on about? ultimately the whole hard/soft thing is a terrible terminology, verging on false dichotomy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, the crowning of five years of complete neglect of the relay network ?
asciilifeform: adlai: i utterly fail to grasp how this is an idea
adlai: asciilifeform: we're talking about the same article. read what i just said, it is about that idea.
thestringpuller: i like how bitcoin mining manufacturers don't even shy away about it: "this is the most powerful miner available to ~the public~" what miners are available to the private?
mircea_popescu: i'm confused.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf i shoulda done different so this happened a week ago rather than now.
asciilifeform: the only thing i would change is to retain old capital distribution, then keccak has a chance at continuing old schellingpoint.
adlai: ok, i also like that idea, although as you said yourself, it's not fully baked yet. i also like that it can be initially opt-in, with an ultimatum that it gets 'hardened' by some date, if it hasn't 'softened' by then.
asciilifeform: i liked mircea_popescu's algo!
adlai: but i don't think trb should initiate a fork.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "i know x" and "i don't know x".
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: that was the implication? unless i'm thick
adlai: fwiw, i sincerely doubt miners would "let core devs decide" if they believed "economic consensus" were against the devs; but this leaves open the problem of convincing them of this.
asciilifeform: i can't wait to learn to whom ~i~ somehow betrayed the motherland
mircea_popescu: but... i want to believe. sure.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and at any point prior to march 2016 i would have readily believed that. now however, is simply something i can't discern. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i dun flail, i sit on sharp telephone pole and keccak on lunchbreakz..
kakobrekla: dunno about friendship - i havent been able to reach bitfury in years
adlai: asciilifeform: i can't find this article. do you mean the "necessary prerequisite" one?
mircea_popescu: adlai i'm specifically suggesting we better stop flailing emotionally and fucking think, because things are not going well.
asciilifeform: did i misthtead or what
mircea_popescu: i don't fuck guys. ok. so ?
asciilifeform: and ~i~ will have no part of it.