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mircea_popescu: you don't sign your share tho, you jsut get a signed cert that you own so and so shares
smickles: mircea_popescu: if an exchange offered it, what happens if i sign my share to two different people at the same time?
smickles: rdponticelli: i've come to the conclusion that if you want that, each individual issuer is going to have to do that, keep a record of who has the proper claim on a share, and not be listed on an exchange of the current nature
rdponticelli: But that would be something....
rdponticelli: No, true
rdponticelli: nefario: Are you working on offering some signed proof of ownership of shares, or some thing alike?
Obsi: Sounds good, I'll hang around to pay divs, thanks
Obsi: oh man my buy order spam took forever
nefario: had to cancell all buy orders as well
nefario: rolled back the software
gabbynot: i gambled a bit on some cheap PPT bonds…it'd be cool if they actually pay off
smickles: gabbynot: according to this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101339.0) no
gabbynot: any news on pirate today?
maximian: mircea: I do like the core functionality, and the fact that mpex is fast and available.
rdponticelli: I'm not talking about any particular site, but in general
mircea_popescu: me too tbh.
smickles: i'm a bit excited for this :D
rdponticelli: Yea, it's a sign of the times....
mircea_popescu: and it completely pissed all over that.
smickles: about an hour to go, right?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining not exactly. recently, glbse got a shot to show itself that it's not a little toy, but something that might be maybe taken seriously
BTC-Mining: I can't check the security internally...
BTC-Mining: Recently the API was moved apart from the core and it was reworked to work on multiple servers
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli actually, seems all the pervasive marketing has got everyone convinced that that;'s how "it works". you buy a domain and wham, are entrepreneurial nao and shit.
BTC-Mining: I think GLBSE was set up properly at the core. It's now rolling out new features
smickles: it seems a seat on the NYSE, allows you to trade, and doesn't get you an account history
rdponticelli: They're a lot of people building thing from the facade
mircea_popescu: they too stated with the roof.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining mtgox learned this the hard way.
rdponticelli: Well, it's about building the houses starting from the foundations, or from the facade
mircea_popescu: one in three ?! come on. one in three musta been a hack.
BTC-Mining: But I'm pretty sure it was no hack... the way it's been handled...
mircea_popescu: look. bitcoinica tried to start from the roof.
mircea_popescu: can't build houses starting at the roof.
mircea_popescu: but if you're going to replicate it, you start with the security. then you add the availability/resilience. then the rest.
BTC-Mining: Aye. But options are good too.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining first and foremost the security, actually. that was there before the rest.
BTC-Mining: I mean, you would get more people. The only reason you get large volumes and big investors taking the time to do it is because of the quality of companies you allow on the platform. Plus the options.
mircea_popescu: and change their accounts.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining so ti can pull a dwolla on them
BTC-Mining: They'd expect the platform to generate it for them.
mircea_popescu: ya i guess it depends what they're used to, but prolly most wouldn't.
maximian: mircea: right, but that's not immediately obvious, and not what most people would expect
mircea_popescu: when you do your accounting, you pull out your receipts and add them up.
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to keep em somewhere.
mircea_popescu: maximian but anyway, you're not supposed to throwaway your stats.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining this is a non-argument.
BTC-Mining: I'm saying if you'd improve the UI, you'd bring more people to MPEX and at the same time need more processing power for each user.
mircea_popescu: maximian you get the history since last STAT, right. the ideea kinda is that accounting is done by client.
maximian: mircea: not the complete history - I have to keep track of it myself
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you really believe that ?
mircea_popescu: maximian you get that in a stat neh ?
BTC-Mining: But there's not so many people using Mpex.
maximian: Get a JSON dump of my transaction history
BTC-Mining: Considering the current simple interface, probably a lot.
mircea_popescu: smickles forget that, i just mean /bitcoin/
smickles: he is the 4chan of romainia, or some such
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you have any ideea how much traffic i handle ?
BTC-Mining: See how you can handle the amount of traffic then.
mircea_popescu: dude you say features like it's some sort of the grail. what features ?
mircea_popescu: it's the forum idiots that get my goat.
mircea_popescu: he's trying, great.
mircea_popescu: and it's not even that i have a problem with the guy trying.
mircea_popescu: what part of that woudl you improve upon ?
BTC-Mining: It's NOT ok to have bugs in production software, I'll have to approve that.
BTC-Mining: I'm saying you could at least try to add new features and show you can do it without any bugs before criticizing.
BTC-Mining: This update happens to be implemented on Mpex. But there's not that many features as far as I know on Mpex.
smickles: ciuciu: i think he still has you on ignore
BTC-Mining: mircea, you're rolling no new features for mpex, at least try and show you can do it before criticizing.
smickles: (my comment to BTC-Mining)
mircea_popescu: get of the fucken internet and come back when you can provide something that works.
BTC-Mining: ... are two exchange owners really fighting now?
mircea_popescu: tell me rthat. what school did you go wjere they said "production software has bugs in it"
nefario: mircea_popescu: you can roll your lips on the glory of my cokc
mircea_popescu: and who told you it;'s ok to have bugs in production software ?
mircea_popescu: your noobs need about a month to get my daily volume.
smickles: BTC-Mining: i'll add the ui to mpex
nefario: And fuck this country
BTC-Mining: Hopefully in the future, both of you can have UI + performance.
nefario: Not hard to be fast when hardly anyone is using it
BTC-Mining: GLBSE/Mpex both have one side of the thing each, UI or performance. Both seems secure.
smickles: it's the exchange, not the brokerage
BTC-Mining: sing the praises of mpex? Fuck, it might be good functional wise, but any professional platform should have great user interface AND great security/performance
mircea_popescu: they deserve their pirate bonds. for srsly.
smickles: waht happend to that forum spirit?
smickles: i'm not even an exchange and i'm 'passing thru' more than 100 btc ??!
mircea_popescu: and im going to shoot the next forum fuckwit that even dares to not sing the praises of mpex.
mircea_popescu: and that was during the half hour the site was up today.
mircea_popescu: it collected ~100 btc in fake bids which wiped when the guy put the asset out
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining deadterra was going to try and offer a pass-through for s.dice on that pathetic excuse of a dysfunctional thing which they insist on the forum is "the standard"
smickles: but to give up entirely?
mircea_popescu: exchanfge has to be up for things to happen
BTC-Mining: what deadterra thing?
mircea_popescu: obviously it's a lot easier to use.
smickles: did the deadterra thing happen?
BTC-Mining: I prefer more shares for less than forcing a full bitcoin per share.
BTCHero: oh, well that sucks :)
BTC-Mining: It doesn't change the percent returned, but should allow to reinvest in full (or almost) each week if wanted.
BTCHero: I saw a bunch at .1 then went to buy and they weren't there
EmanuelDeOrtego: When is it going to be up again