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smickles: is
that what btcgfy stands for?
BTC-Mining: It's actually
the best, makes
the group stronger.
BTC-Mining: If you're just restriticting
to a small group everyone agreed
to join, communism works great.
BTC-Mining: enforcing it requires
to centralize and give everything
to
the hands of
the governments. In
theory, it's good, in practice, I doubt it's going
to be practical anytime soon seeing
the human nature.
BTC-Mining: communism doesn't work... I actually haven't seen any system based on common decisions and resource sharing work...
Too complicate
to manage. Profit drive is an excellent managing
tool which doesn't require
to have everything managed by
the authority... It's hard
to get communism
to work in a large population solely based on
the willingness of each participant
to actually share and
Doffx: gotta make sure we hit
that 5 bil mark
Doffx: After
that ill call India
smickles: i like
the idea of l2/l3
trust of
the mods, and a liberal ban policy
Doffx: Im calling china and letting
them know now is
the
time
to get in on mpex
mircea_popescu: you can't have an infinitely large community,
the
two are contradictory
mircea_popescu: there aren't going
to be five billion users are
there.
smickles: you want
to begin
this with a max user count in mind?
smickles: mircea_popescu: at some scale,
the manual approval would be rough
to impliment, no?
mircea_popescu: smickles you believe evertything costalinkin
tells you ?
smickles: copumpkin: lol, is
that even a chanel?
mircea_popescu: so like
this you'd
think it's ok from what you can see ?
nanotube: just make sure you mention
that it's not cumulative rating. so people don't
think "oh it must be a cumulative rating cutoff, let's shill"
mircea_popescu: i mean let's face it, you can't abstract
the human hand & eye from a matter of
trust
mircea_popescu: nanotube how about
this : manual approval of new users based on wot, undisclosed criteria.
nanotube: well,
the core people would presumably not care
to make a bunch of .5btc
trades with a bunch of noobs
to give
them out ratings. :)
copumpkin: smickles: come
to #bitcoin-comrades
nanotube: e.g., if someone makes a
trade with me for a 1-rating, and
then creates a bunch of shill identities who interrate each other with a bunch of high ratings... any of
those identities would still have a maximum levelN
trust from me of 1.
smickles: copumpkin: i'm so communist
that i bleed red
mircea_popescu: nanotube yea but i mean.. is is pretty much structurally
the same
thing, we're stressing core people for little direcrt benefit
ti
them
copumpkin: communism is
the one
true ideology
copumpkin: has anyone seen
the light about communism yet?
nanotube: mircea_popescu: well,
they'd have
to convince people at
the core
to actually give
them high ratings.
nanotube: (you could extend it
to level3 also
nanotube: level2
trust > X from selected wot members
smickles: i'm not sure if either of
those ways is ideal
mircea_popescu: so how would you best phrase it ? "connect
to mirceapopescu" ?
nanotube: mircea_popescu: if it just used cumulative wot, yes, probably will cause a bunch of shilling. if it used web of
trust paths from some already-trusted members, no.
smickles: mircea_popescu: maybe an invite/rating hybrid, new users can only get an account if
they are rated by a current user
mircea_popescu: nanotube : if someone made a forum where posting rights were conditioned on a minimal wot rating, would you consider
this detrimental
to
the wot integrity ?
smickles: is poluting
the ratings really all
that much of a risk?
smickles: interesting
tying it
to WOT ratings somehow
mircea_popescu: course... what if people start giving people wot ratings just
to be on
the forum ?
mod6: that will certainly cut down on board
trolls
mircea_popescu: ormaybe
the forum dweller idiots have run everyone off it...
mircea_popescu: maybe btc is just not mature enough
to have a real forum ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: mircea: Could you open up a SMF forum for securities and speculation on polimedia? : ) It would be nice
to have an escape from Bitcointalk
smickles: nefario: would you like
to comment on mircea_popescu's recent link
EmanuelDeOrtego: "Pirate: Guys, I want
to pay you back but you need
to stop paying so much for Bitcoins. You guys only have yourselves
to blame, gosh."
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gribble: #9826 Sat Aug 25 13:45:41 2012 smickles BUY 244.0 mpexbtc @ 244 mpexbtc (I have a deposit in
the works, but would like
to make an order now, so I'm looking for someone
to float me some mpexbtc)
mircea_popescu: you're like
those people ranting about
the superiority of honda civics
to "shit cars" or w/e
smickles: glbse gives easier access
to historical dividend information
smickles: oddly enough, i
think
that mpex has better charts (on
the assumption
that you know how
the axees are defined)
smickles: on
the other, glbse has more listings
jcpham: i'm in no position
to judge others
smickles: personally, i prefer mpex
to glbse right now, but i use both
jcpham: somebody has
to operate an exchange
EskimoBob: still makes no sense why did he do
the "IPO" in
this dump called mpex
smickles: EskimoBob: I know he's not
the only one buying on mpex
EskimoBob: Are you sure you are not
the only one who buys
that stuff in mpex?
mircea_popescu: <jcpham> and my coount balance was all crazy interest << i wonder how often
this is
the case.
EskimoBob: EmanuelDeOrtego: do you invent
this bs as you go or is
this some
type of script you read and repeat when nothing else comes
to mind?
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EskimoBob: nefario1: what happened
to GLBSE? It's getting slow again
jcpham: i can
tell you
that all my actual principal was withdrawn and used elsewhere
jcpham: at some point i'm goin
to not pay attention
to irc anymore
mircea_popescu: i really like
the international aspect of bitcoin. im atm
talking
to a chinese guy who spent 48 hours
trying
to get gpg going and a romanian guy who's
trying
to buy bitcoins but
the bank fees are huge.
EmanuelDeOrtego: and
that he has
to give up for safety and
that we only have ourselves
to blame.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I imagine Pirate is going
to start playing victim at some point.
jcpham: i believe i had
the chance
to recover some funds but i declined
mircea_popescu: well, here's
to hoping your expector is in good working order
jcpham: this is where
the pass-throughs fucked up
tbh
jcpham: and i'm no obligated
to anyone downstream