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cazalla: not that i care for zimmerman but given the media made it a black vs white issue and that black on white violence is the real issue, i can't help but smile to see him 6 foot under
cads: I don't see what would have made it hard to find him guilty of manslaughter
Namworld: Looks like media can't cover stuff properly once again?
mircea_popescu: mail server automatically rejects all email that doesn't come with btc.
Namworld: I don't, mircea.
Namworld: Guess it can't be too bad.
Namworld: A friend of a friend wants to film me eating one of the hottest peppers in the world. If I don't die, he'll try it himself. What?
cads: although I won't doubt its persuasive power
cads: Financial regulators in US/UK and elsewhere want Bitcoin to stoop to their level, but it can't: it's not built that way.
BingoBoingo: If Doges are so great, why doesn't Sochi want them?
cads: "At one point in time, their father Howard Davies-Car stressed that he didn't want to commercialize on the boy's success but realized that unlicensed merchandise was being sold based on their video.[9] In response to requests from viewers online the family created "Charlie Bit My Finger" T-shirts, mugs and limited edition calendars.[2][31]"
BingoBoingo: Maybe the French weren't big fans of the Dagos.
mircea_popescu: and italians didn't use slaves really
chetty: I don't think it can be done, hurt is very sujective
mircea_popescu: "don't be callin ma momma a hacker yo!"
mircea_popescu: jew is fine isn't it ?
dub: as a nigger I don't find it offensive, not a faggot so hard to judge
cads: jesus why the fuck can't we have distributed publicly owned web service assets?!
cads: cazalla: you DON'T see that
mircea_popescu: and goffy, which is "look at all the neat shit i don't understand that i've randomly collected mostly by breaking old stuff apart with a hammer"
mircea_popescu: on re-read we don;t disagree.
cads: it's... essentially right but leads people to conclude what is merely a social construct doesn't actually exist so it should be possible in /theory/ to completely dispell that what was a construct.
mircea_popescu: such as get drunk at party, fuck, don't remember much in the morning ?
cads: "It wasn't rape. I'm a feminist"
mircea_popescu: i thought us male feminists were mostly... you know, dudes that can't otherwise date.
copumpkin: this thing isn't going to watch itself
Namworld: I'm pretty sure my humans aren't fungible. Some of my subjects are worth more. They'd cost you more for me to be willing to depart with them.
mircea_popescu: "jules, you give that fucking nimrod fifteen hundred dollars i'll shoot him on general principle" "now... I ain't giving it to him Vincent. I'm buyin' something for my money. Wanna know what I'm buyin' Ringo ?
mircea_popescu: except the point of art is that it doesn't work like commerce.
cads: mircea_popescu: at some level I feel you are saying that it absolutely does not matter that people spent an estimated 34 million minutes looking at this single artist's work, if only because we can't trust those estimates at all.
asciilifeform: can't resist pointing out that, at least on this side of the atlantic, 'silicone' refers exclusively to the type of rubber sold under that name
asciilifeform: for some reason, i can't help but remember the american moneyed idiot who proclaimed that tv watchers who get up to piss during ads are committing fraud.
cads: Okay, so lets start at the bottom. The claim there are no youtube views. Youtube clearly provides analytics on the number of visitors to a page. So are we saying these numbers are fabricated by youtube or third part 'view providers? Or that youtube views don't actually record how much attention someone payed to a video, whether they really watched it, etc.
benkay: !t h rent
cads: wasn't it /amazing/?!
asciilifeform: you have turds of a certain number-theoretical variety, that turn into plaintext when subjected to function F. F(turd) = plain. but you don't know F'(plain) = turd.
asciilifeform: cads: idea probably was, you'd like to block-cipher the blob, but don't want to send a symmetric key (however contained) into the field.
cads: asciilifeform: in that case couldn't we say the same of hashing? Although I admit. Putting the decryptor somewhere in the main flow of the system has panache, and I wouldn't be surprised if a similar approach hashing is a lot less natural.
Jere_Jones: Didn't think so. Thanks.
Jere_Jones: How does an exchange that implements stop losses prevent a large order from crashing the market? If a large order comes in and wipes out the orderbook past serveral stop losses, those sells get executed after the large order right? They don't get interwoven with the large order? Interwoven seems harder to do and/or incorrect and/or unethical. That means that a stop loss can't actually
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> implication is that this achieved something more than one can get by merely hashing & signing code. << fwiw i don't believe it does or could.
cads: But once doing that, say you want to alter the code. You can't do that.
asciilifeform: cads: not so simple. you can't have the machine actually branch in any obvious sense
asciilifeform: we aren't seeing proof in the mathematical sense. only (apologies to bush the lesser) - 'proofiness.'
mircea_popescu: benkay you don't have to make the shells actually do anything you know ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck mech engineer you are can't build a hovitzer
asciilifeform: can't speak for other unis, the cs dept. i studied in was a vacuum cleaner for slurping up DOD moneys
mircea_popescu: one thing i can't for the fucking life of me understand is why on earth has nobody made an actual competing implementation.
cads: mircea_popescu: I'm going to investigate the excuse don't worry :D
BingoBoingo: Doesn't he also keep a bunch of tomatoes prisoner or am I confused.
copumpkin: anyway, it wasn't a threat of loss of bitcoins
mircea_popescu: who the hell wasn't srsly.
copumpkin: it isn't really all that much of a problem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: von neumann widget, lol. can't wait for some joker to start 'predicting market'
BingoBoingo: And the trillions of hashes per second which aren't good enough to find blocks.
benkay: oh, our corpus isn't quite *that* large or *that* stochastic now...
benkay: cads: well then there ain't nowhere to go but up!
cads: mircea_popescu: Haha you mean quantitative models don't magically reorganize reality into your will?
mircea_popescu: on which topic n taleb's stuff can't be sufficiently recommended i guess.
mircea_popescu: i r guess ms joshi can't hurt
mircea_popescu: you don't disable tokens after use ?
Apocalyptic: it wouldn't pankkake
TomServo: mircea_popescu: I don't, sorry.
mircea_popescu: anyway, mpoebot isn't quoting because the derivation among exchanges is too large, and likely won't until this is resolved somehow.
benkay: wow the spec didn't account for all edge cases
mircea_popescu: turns out bugpowder is exactly right. bot actually isn't quoting because feeds disagree not because it couldn't get them. ☟︎
Bugpowder: They aren't making financial decisions based on their quote
Bugpowder: I don't see why they should.
benkay: i don't really much care in the grand scheme of things but its a point what needs making.
mircea_popescu: the bot doesn't have to quote any more than you do. where's your quote on options ?
mircea_popescu: but yeah, quoting outages are temporary, people (who don't generally trade) like to bitch/find conspiraci explanations for otherwise random events.
benkay: people can't price options on their own, though mircea. that competence thing.
mircea_popescu: so it can't possibly a) look good or bad b) make mpex anything.
mircea_popescu: i am saying that mpex allows people to trade whether the bot quotes or doesn't quote,
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no particular requirement one can't just trade as is you know ?
mircea_popescu: the cellphone is a trivial greek trinket. they didn't know how to make it, but they did have them in their speech
asciilifeform: as far as i could tell, the last fellow who pondered a related question was mr. t, when he coughed up the ac motor.
mircea_popescu: t
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to be curren
deanclkclk: why isn't it interesting?
mircea_popescu: however i think they od'd or something because i haven't heard from them in a while
Apocalyptic: (don't)
deanclkclk: I don't want on how to create an exchange. I'm just pitching my idea to get a feel of what people think
pankkake: I don't know if I can apply filters to this thing
mircea_popescu: more importantly, you aren't at liberty to ignore the recommendations i make. re-read the log, they're there.
deanclkclk: I don't know everything...that's why I asked for answers...suggestions
mircea_popescu: i wasn't making you out.
Duffer1: don't take that personally hehe
deanclkclk: I wasn't asking question mircea_popescu I was pitching an idea
Duffer1: i don't see why you would want to dean, a person can just set their price to buy until their 100 is spent
mircea_popescu: so if he doesn't deliver before you do you get a free atc.
deanclkclk: it doesn't Duffer1
Duffer1: i don't see how you could get more for what you asked for, someone has to get less in that scenario
mircea_popescu: if he doesn't before you do you get 1.
deanclkclk: I don't know anymore
davout: Duffer1: dunno, i didn't take care of that myself
davout: mircea_popescu: no i actually don't
deanclkclk: I know I guy here called twitz from here..I can't remember his irc name
mircea_popescu: they don't actually have to lose anytihng per se, other than their own vanity
benkay: deanclkclk: do something useful, don't screw people over.