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mircea_popescu: it seems
to me ridiculous
to a degree bordering on infantilism
that it is "impossible"
to get
the data out after being so complexly massaged into utility ; but be
that as it may, let phuctor run and report on its website,
the interested will
try and sift
through whatever it publishes on
their own
time.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well certainly
the whole "get expensive phuctor machine"
thing wasn't on nsa books so
that it works for
three days and
then waits forever.
mircea_popescu: anyway. so what's
the situation here, phuctor currently going
through Framedragger 's and jurov 's set preparing ; reporting of results here disrupted until
this is sorted out ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, did you just say "anyone who wants
to do
this must do it in
the way it wasn't specified because i'm not making
the principal element everything rests on" ?
mircea_popescu: well, you'd be running
the rss script yourself. ever ran code you didn't write before ?
mircea_popescu: redundancy makes no difference here.
they'll still only be reported once.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, how about
this : you edit your current rss script, so
that ~instead~ of what it does, it plunks its results down in a new
table ; and someone (tm) writes you
the py script
to read
that new
table and put out usable rss for deedbot. how about
that ?
mircea_popescu: you understand
the other algo would be about 100x less machine work ?
jurov: asciilifeform: at
this point just add insert into
the new
table and leave its reading
to mod6 or anyone who has irc bot?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 15:00 asciilifeform: jurov:
the way it works is, every
time /rss pg is generated , we go select mods from factors order by whenfound desc limit N ( n is 20 currently ) ; call
this M, it is a list of moduli affected by
that factor being known. afterwards , ~each~ of
these lists is
tested against
the set of ~gpg keys~ , in
the shape of select * from gpgkeys where [the list from earlier] && mods , and
this yields up a list of most-recently-popped ~keys~, w
mircea_popescu: im unsure why phuctor would have
to be stalled at all. you mean
the reporting here of popped moduli ?
mircea_popescu: and yes,
the reason it has separate
table is so it doesn't mess up your locks on
the main one.
mircea_popescu: 3.
this will introduce no further state or anything else in
the original process ; it just happily spits its output at whatever rate it wishes.
jurov: with new
table it'll be slow,
too?
mircea_popescu: 2.
the proposed modification is
to create a new
table, of columns A B C D
timestamp.
this is
to be indexed on whichever A B C D is
the modulus.
the proposed use is
to have a process sort
this
table by unique index where
timestamp = "" ; report ONE such item, and update ALL
the lines with
that modulus with current
timestamp IF any only IF
the highest
timestamp found in
the
table is 900 seconds behind current
timestamp.
jurov: asciilifeform: can't add
timestamp column
to gpgkeys "lastpopped"
that gets updated?
mircea_popescu: 1. consider a process which produces
tabular data, in
the shape of lines of A B C D columns.
mircea_popescu: actually, maybe
this'll help, let me formalize
this for you :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it generates its
tick,
that's what
the whole "ave it add
the
timestamp whenever it reads ; push out one once
the
timestamp is old enough, and write
the new
timestamp next
to it." is all about.
mircea_popescu: however, he'd have
to run a script he doesn't actually understand.
mircea_popescu: mod6, what i was going
to propose is for someone
to write his rss python script and needed queries.
mod6: This
to me, seems like
the most painless way.
mod6: What if someone pitched in a hand
to make a new bot for ya, so like Mr. P. said, you just have own channel.
Then it can just burp as it is necessary.
mircea_popescu: much in
the vein proper smoked rib bean stu requires allspice.
mircea_popescu: well,
the proper statement here isn't
that "fixing db will be
to my grief" ;
the proper statement is
that "fixing db, while a massive improvement
to
the $item, has
the unfortunate drawback of requiring some
trims i'm ill equipped
to handle / have
to send for across
town"
mircea_popescu: but, i confess i absolutely do not follow
the logic here. so, making a new
table, and a py script
to update it and print it as described above, unbounded ammount of sweat, months of work ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, once
the Framedragger fodder runs out
there's
the jurov fodder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yet another approach would be
to do what ben_vulpes did, make a channel for it ?
mircea_popescu: merely addressing
the latter may well get you out of addressing
the former for a while
to come.
mircea_popescu: there's in fact
two separate problems. one of
them is
that large walls of robot generated
text are hostile
to human habitation.
the OTHER however, is
that
the news value of
the first factor of a modulus exceeds
the news value of all subsequent factors summed by degrees of magnitude, because of
the 0, 1 infinity rule.
mircea_popescu: index by modulus so you only report each once and
there you go.
mircea_popescu: have it add
the
timestamp whenever it reads ; push out one once
the
timestamp is old enough, and write
the new
timestamp next
to it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you could simply push
that into a
table and
then have a script read from it
to populate
the rss
mircea_popescu: in my country
they go "oac", which admittedly makes 0 sense. (in fact, my country is famous in
the harem for having apparently never heard any of
the animal sounds it purportedly renders.)
mircea_popescu: so when "educators" ie child molesters claim
they produce "familiarity" in children with so and so,
this is PRECISELY what
they mean.
diana_coman is not laughing as she met
the belief irl...
diana_coman: well of course; once
that stumbling block, annoying and unfair and barrier
to entry and everything
that is bad - aka comprehension is removed, all is plain sailing; no surprise
there
mircea_popescu: (laugh if you will, however a)
this is EXACTLY what alphabet imagines "artificial intelligence" means and b)
this is EXACTLY what
they
teach
them
to do in school
these days. so... joke's on you, mr barbarian bereft of bayesian behehehnologies.)
mircea_popescu: reading can go surprisingly fast if it doesn't make much difference what order
the words come in.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hmmm, I had in mind an even faster she-reader but I can't seem
to find ref;
that works
too I suppose although I suspect
the fromdeedbot guy "read" even faster
mircea_popescu: i'm still not certain he wasn't
telling
the
truth even.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 12:49 diana_coman: asciilifeform, I suspect he "read"
them like
that
tits-girl: in one night he "read"
them all, what
mircea_popescu: item promises getting out of having
to do some
thinking ;
the ill equipped
towards humanity find it indistinguishable from refined sugar.