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Obsi: Well people can claim
that, but I will still be here running my personal securities
dust-otc: Obsi: but
the failure of
the business you are passing
through
to is indistinguishable from you running with everyones' money
Obsi: In
the event of a failure I would notify everyone in
the
thread ASAP since I could not continue payments beyond
the buffer, which stands at ~10-11 days right now
Obsi: I have zero control over
this business... it's a passthrough, I'm not going
to
try and protect
them in
the contract at
the expense of myself.
Obsi: Well who wants
to be a scammer?
dust-otc: becaue it is laid out in
the contract
dust-otc: your operation is quite similar
to pirate, except if you didn't pay back you wouldn't even be a scammer
Obsi: dust-otc: I could... but I'm not like
that
Obsi: That's
the day I run reports, no sale
this Sunday
though due
to crazy market
dust-otc: and
there would be no accountability
dust-otc: Obsi: but you could claim at any
time
that
this "person" has defaulted and not repay investors, and
this would be within your contract
Obsi: I sold all
that I held in my personal account a few hours ago and I only sell from
the OBSI.HRPT on Sundays
Obsi: my business model is I
transfer funds
to a person
that earns high rate interest and pay
that out as coupons
dust-otc: Obsi: or refute my claims
that you can just
take investors' money within
the
terms of your contract?
dust-otc: Obsi: care
to answer anyone's questions about your business model?
Obsi: Topic was locked while I investigated a
threat from someone
dust-otc: but I suspect it is because many are starting
to ask him questions he does not want
to answer
mircea_popescu: and also she's
tall. so you'd better not be short either.
mircea_popescu: wanted
to know if we're married ; related ; declared
this is fucking scary.
mircea_popescu: you know actually, erlier
this week we were having dinner in
this one place where previous we were with a
third party who
Lyspooner: well, dinner parties with you
two (or you one) must be frightening if you arrive at
the door with an opinion
Lyspooner: i swear
that MPOE PR person on
the forums is you
Lyspooner: i
think it will be around for longer
than 2050 if
the people who run it are like you
Lyspooner: your company seems
to do well at it
Lyspooner: it's just been reasonably
tough
to
trust any business
to store bitcoin deposits
mircea_popescu: might be possible, but we're still a few steps removed from it i
think
Lyspooner: just look at
the number of successful bitcoin escrow services, for example
Lyspooner: bitcoin debt obligations are so person-to-person specific
that i doubt a single entity could profitably run a clearing business
Lyspooner: i don't
think bitcoin is mature enough
to standardize debt contracts on an exchange
kakobrekla: who are you dissing again here sorry lost
track
mircea_popescu: so in short, bitcoin needs fewer people
that imagine
they are part of it without being in fact involved.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has one,
the only
thing is
that it can not (nor should it work) without gpg and a few other
tidbits.
Lyspooner: chmod755, debt is
typically
traded otc
mircea_popescu: it kinda has one. people have been using
their mpex holdings
to back claims, do repos etc.
mircea_popescu: quote of
the day, week, year... if anyone ever wonders why
there's so many rabid people in btc... well, it's cause someone bought
them lunch sometime. or a pair of shoes.
mircea_popescu: "If you
think over 1000BTC is a small amount, why don't you just buy my debt off and I'll shut up, and at
the same
time, I'll praise you as lord."
Diablo-D3: why
the fuck is it every major css
thing sucks
mircea_popescu: whne you run
the largest blog in any language space for a few years running you get immune or dead.
jcpham: i need a
text
transcript
jcpham: sorry mircea_popescu i attract
the
trolls
toffoo: novusordo: I dunno, I
think you could argue
that a system as free, open, and unregulated as bitcoin will always invite a fair share of asshats. it's
the cost of freedom.
mircea_popescu: no human agency, even if working from within, even if it be
the agency of idiocy.
mircea_popescu: see, when
they say bitcoin is resilient and when
they say no government could
take it down
novusordo: of course, everything passes with
time. it's just aggravating.
novusordo: it just burns me
to see a project with such great potential getting shat on by asshats
mircea_popescu: in every office a couple guys do all
the work,
the rest just dick about.
novusordo: we're supposed
to be launching
the world's first successful cryptocurrency into primetime
novusordo: this community needs a solid boot
to
the ass
novusordo: the drama level in
this channel is over 9000
OneMiner: Ya,
the Americans played
their part in
them. I'm NOT suggesting
the US won WWI-II by
themselves at all. Just
that
the alies would have gotten
their spleens handed
to
them.
OneMiner: The US kicked ass in
the war of independence, Mexican America war, Korea, I'm probably missing some others... Panama, Granada.
mircea_popescu: ok so
then pretty much
the conclusion is
the us won no war
to your standards,
OneMiner: mircea_popescu If
there was one less front
the Russians would have walked into a meat grinder. It was
the combined effort and I'm sick of people saying X won WWII.
OneMiner: Vietnam was all about nation building. Propping up
the South against
the Commie North.
That war fits into
the second catagory.
mircea_popescu: seems
to me
the russians won ww2, so. meh. dubious argument but anyway not really fit for -assets.
OneMiner: Oh, except when we
tried
to invade Canada, damn igloo building pinkos.
OneMiner: All
the wars where
the US decided
to just F up
the enemy were won hands down. You can see
the other results.
OneMiner: Ya, Iraq was a cluster F from
the start.
mircea_popescu: like it was with
the war of independence, just more so.
mircea_popescu: so it's not REALLY
the gun
that's
the problem. will and discipline are.
OneMiner: I dig. You got some points
there. But I don't
think you really understand how coordinated and powerful
they are. Afganistan is a cluster F at
this point.
The mission is all screwed up.
The army is acting as a punching bag.
mircea_popescu: afganistan is still standing just fine, against
the whole us military.
mircea_popescu: <OneMiner> I don't care if you can buy M60s no citizen millitia can stand against even
the National Guard.
The orginal intent of
the 2nd is dead dead dead. <<
this is wrong.
OneMiner: I don't care if you can buy M60s no citizen millitia can stand against even
the National Guard.
The orginal intent of
the 2nd is dead dead dead.
OneMiner: Holding a knife is bearing arms
too you know. I don't
think
they have gone so overboard. You can buy a long rifle in any state.
OneMiner: d? Or redefine it
to fit with
the orginal intent?
That's what congress should be doing,
then
the courts
take over from
there. Insteadwe have bla, nothing, a promise
to not get anything done untill
the election.
OneMiner: While I'm a fan of much of
the constitution, it's reasonable
to expect
that changes will be made over
time. For example
the 2nd amendment. I interpet
that as a gun
to
the head of
the govt.,
the designers of
the constitution wanted
to be sure
that a govt. not of
the people couldn't stand. Now we have cruise missles and I feel
that
the orginal intent has been defeated. What should happen? We stick with what we have and change nothing? Scrap
the 2n
Diablo-D3: they wanted more money, and
thats what I
tried
to do!
OneMiner: Smoovious I'm all for
that. Send it
to
the courts,
that's what
they are
there for. Continuously redefining
the country
to improve it should be a goal.
Diablo-D3: I did what my shareholders asked! Why
the fuck do you I worked my ass of on
this deal
to bring in more revenue and serve
the bitcoin community better!
copumpkin: I've been eating
that for a while
too
copumpkin: Smoovious: is it
the shit
that michael jackson has been munching on for
the past couple of decades?
Diablo-D3: and suggested I
tell obsi
that asicminer is going
to not deliver so I could get his 5000 shares of asicminer
Diablo-D3: and
then you back up nefario when he pulls
this shit
Diablo-D3: you ask me
to
turn on obsi even
though Im a shareholder of half of abmo
Diablo-D3: Im not
the only one
that
thinks
this
Diablo-D3: usagi: both you and nefario will probably end up with scammer
tags on
the forum because of
this
Diablo-D3: usagi: if you're so pro-DMC,
then vote
to keep me as CEO on nefario's fake motion
that he wont put up
Diablo-D3: if you get 100% of
the assets? YES YOU DO.
Diablo-D3: and Ive already said on
the
thread
that _you_ agreed with my assessment.
Diablo-D3: usagi: I have repeatedly answered
that question
Diablo-D3: apparently dedi/cloud resale contracts "cost
thousands of btc,
thus Diablo stole
them"
Diablo-D3: OneMiner:
thats what it feels like
Diablo-D3: All you did was
try
to make a grab for
the DMC assets and fuck over all
the other shareholders