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Diablo-D3: whats with people today
assbot: !ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current GLBSE/MPEX ticker values)
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@0.58BTC] (since: 2012-08-10) paid: 0.07725 BTC. Last price: 0.62 BTC. Capital gain: 0.04 BTC. Total: 0.11725 BTC. (20.2%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@0.58BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.62 BTC. Capital gain: 0.04 BTC. Total: 0.48317596 BTC. (83.3%)
Bugpowder: All these people buying gigamining need to get an account on MPEX and buy from me at a 15% discount
gribble: Best bid: 11.721, Best ask: 11.72999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 11.72999, 24 hour volume: 40695, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.799
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
gribble: There are currently 51206.932 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 555374.394154 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 43475.871 bitcoins offered at or under 13.0 USD, worth 534979.043223 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 11135.246 bitcoins offered at or under 12.0 USD, worth 132960.36825 USD in total.
gribble: Best bid: 11.71, Best ask: 11.78098, Bid-ask spread: 0.07098, Last trade: 11.78098, 24 hour volume: 40555, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.799
gribble: Best bid: 11.711, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.03900, Last trade: 11.711, 24 hour volume: 40340, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75
gribble: Best bid: 11.711, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.03900, Last trade: 11.711, 24 hour volume: 40340, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75
MoneyIsDebt: but it might push the price a bit
gribble: Best bid: 11.72138, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.02862, Last trade: 11.75, 24 hour volume: 40217, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75
DeaDTerra: Anyone here that's going to the conference tomorrow? :D
gribble: Best bid: 11.69, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 11.75, 24 hour volume: 40042, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75
MoneyIsDebt: (which is recommended over the movie btw)
Bugpowder: nice delay there
gribble: Best bid: 11.66001, Best ask: 11.66222, Bid-ask spread: 0.00221, Last trade: 11.66, 24 hour volume: 38845, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.66
MoneyIsDebt: to put it in a more modern setting than the book
MoneyIsDebt: or software being outsourced to India
MoneyIsDebt: Like all manufacturing being moved to china and taiwan
MoneyIsDebt: It's about increased regulation forcing those leaders to take their business elsewhere
MoneyIsDebt: It's not really about industry leaders going on strike though
Bane_Capital: So a bit of a fun bit there.
Bane_Capital: It's television quality besides that
Bane_Capital: Usagi: I think you might enjoy it. Basically it's about industry leaders going on strike.
Bane_Capital: No, some say he named himself after the book
Bane_Capital: Just finished Atlas Shrugged the movie. It wasn't too bad. Clearly low budget but not bad.
BTC-Mining: Probably because I take on almost all the risks. If any asset makes a loss, I have to eat it up on my share of the portfolio.
BTC-Mining: The assets on the spreadsheet, trading, exchanging. Sometimes I trade on MtGox a bit, when something happens (like the pirate default).
MoneyIsDebt: Gets loads of tips
BTC-Mining: Well I have to keep it at 200% of loan in assets, so because of variations in price, I'll try and keep it under that.
MoneyIsDebt: I'll invest at some random time to hide the fact that it's me
BTC-Mining: Use this spreadsheet and links on it to get more information. I think it's exhaustive enough.
BTC-Mining: It is a bond. And one which respects the true meaning of the term "bond".
MoneyIsDebt: BTC-Mining: What ticker?
BTC-Mining: [13:12] <MoneyIsDebt> so what to invest in?
MoneyIsDebt: but had to roll back
MoneyIsDebt: He tried to implement it
Bane_Capital: MoneyIsDebt: Nefario needs to be made aware of that.
jcpham: although i have no clue what that means
MoneyIsDebt: You place bids on whatever you want. If a bid is met, the bids you can't afford anymore are reduced to whatever funds you have.
jcpham: generally speaking, yes i disapprove of the bitcointalkforums and the community that supports, it yes
MoneyIsDebt: EskimoBob: But real life business doesn't grow as fast as the btc/usd price, thus it's still a turd
jcpham: it is not my job to approve or disapprove sir
MoneyIsDebt: Bane_Capital: Isn't part of the problem that with X bitcoins, you can only place X bids on glbse? You can't place X bids on all the stuff you're interested in. So liquidity is lower than it could be.
Bane_Capital: jcpham: Feel free to express your opinion.
jcpham: Bane_Capital i read all your forum threads
BTC-Mining: before that difficulty was slowly rising, often dropping as much as it raised.
MoneyIsDebt: so what to invest in?
MoneyIsDebt: nothing much else that provably makes a bitcoin income though
BTC-Mining: See how it coincides with the BTC price raise
Bane_Capital: An active price of something someone is willing to pay at a moment's notice
MoneyIsDebt: I've seen pictures of the rigs
BTC-Mining: Not since the last 6 months, since the last 3 months
BTC-Mining: Not because mining bonds are inherently bad, but because any raise in USD per BTC undermines the bond values a lot.
MoneyIsDebt: heh, no bids on JAH though
BTC-Mining: In any case, most fixed bonds loss is due to the fact USD/BTC price raised a lot and thus, difficulty is catching on and the value of the equipment (in BTC) halved, since BTC now buys twice the mhash equipment.
assbot: JAH [1@0.3BTC] paid: 0.08647365 BTC. Last price: 0.13 BTC. Capital gain: -0.17 BTC. Total: -0.08352635 BTC. (-27.8%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: JAH [1@BTC] paid: 0.08647365 BTC. Last price: 0.13 BTC. Capital gain: 0.13 BTC. Total: 0.21647365 BTC. (-100%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
assbot: JAH [200@0.1BTC] (since: 2012-06-12) paid: 10.26878 BTC. Last price: 0.13 BTC. Capital gain: 6 BTC. Total: 16.26878 BTC. (81.3%)
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BTC-Mining: Hmm, maybe it was at 1.25, but I thought it was IPOed at 1
Bane_Capital: Exactly his point. The initial investors are screwed
MoneyIsDebt: later, the market has priced it
MoneyIsDebt: remember, at day 1 it's priced by the issuer
MoneyIsDebt: not really relevant unless you bought at day 1 then
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.6195 BTC. Capital gain: -0.3805 BTC. Total: 0.06267596 BTC. (6.3%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
BTC-Mining: Eskimo, they were sold for 1 BTC on IPO
MoneyIsDebt: what does that command really show though, when you don't include a date
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1.25BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.6195 BTC. Capital gain: -0.6305 BTC. Total: -0.18732404 BTC. (-15%)
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc).
Bane_Capital: So people are not breaking even on these?
Bane_Capital: Hm, I guess you could say mining turds are raw investments but with all the risk attached
mircea_popescu: well share value has no value to them because most things purporting to be shares aren't.
Bane_Capital: and not the long-term integrity of the investment vehicle
Bane_Capital: People tend to focus on the short-term
Bane_Capital: Share value has no meaning to them.
Bane_Capital: E.g. use a total divided to buyback shares at a price of principal + profit
Bane_Capital: SS should of just promised to buy back profits
BTC-Mining: yeah, SS was the stock that was split by 100x
mircea_popescu: well what can i tell you.
Bane_Capital: It will continue to have it
Bane_Capital: Until it gets too strained
Bane_Capital: Arbitrage is too hard to pull off
Bane_Capital: I am now remembering why I didn't finish this movie
mircea_popescu: iirc it was a partnership between smickles and some other guy to run a sort of arb bot
Bane_Capital: I don't know what it is though
Bane_Capital: I started to doubt him when he got into the $300,000 territory.
BTC-Mining: As such betting 1 BTC or 1 million BTC carried the same risk in my opinion.
Bane_Capital: That's when he didn't give any stock to the people who actually make the magazine possible.
BTC-Mining: I bet 10k BTC, I didn't think he'd pay up, but I was 100% sure pirate wasn't going to pay.
Bane_Capital: I can't blame her all too much.