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nefario: so tired
BTC-Mining: Eh, that's the worst part.
mircea_popescu: had a lot less money back then.
BTC-Mining: Luckily life is not like american tv shows. Or we'd have been beaten up so many times. =P
BTC-Mining: It was entertaining. They're very good friends too.
Diablo-D3: also, someone has notified me that people actually went to the bitcoinica conference
BTC-Mining: or giving you the hitler salute. Or walking around you doing freestyle rap, but not in a serious way.
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: your high school life was more exciting than mine
BTC-Mining: Try walking around corridors with two people walking around you like their on strike demanding higher salaries >.>
BTC-Mining: I remember back in high school... where normal people would walk with friends talking, I'd be followed by my two atheists friends who've decided to worship me AND go on strike demanding higher salaries for the disciples of this sect having 2 followers.
Diablo-D3: unicode even has a form of the ikon
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: but thats not religious, its entertainment
BTC-Mining: Diablo-D3: false, you can be atheist AND worship a persona in a ridicule fashion, as to mock sects (aka fake or set-up worshipping)
Bane_Capital: Thetans told me so.
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: not true
Bane_Capital: Diablo-D3 is a transgendered, atheist, scientologist.
mircea_popescu: o it was hk not kludge nm. but yes, he said that as a joke
[\\\]: can we get all the other fud out of the way too?
[\\\]: i know that for a fact.
Bane_Capital: lending to 15 year olds
Bane_Capital: because they are silly.
Bane_Capital: Never bothered to document them though
mircea_popescu: ya but the citizen-bankers are a little broke atm.
Bane_Capital: I have gotten thousand BTC loans before
Bane_Capital: becuase their not sure I am Atlas
Bane_Capital: then not lend to me
Bane_Capital: It's funny how people are willing to call out my alt accounts
[\\\]: 2 hookers and a ball of tar
Diablo-D3: how much does smickles, smickles, and smickles cost to hire?
Bane_Capital: SOMEBODY BUY IT UP TO .034
Bane_Capital: but I don't have the leverage
Bane_Capital: I want to clear it
Bane_Capital: There is a nice gap in the CPA asks.
Bugpowder: who the fuck is buying 10 share lots of GSDPT
Bugpowder: I'm making sure my mining investments will still be paying out during the wait
Diablo-D3: and I think the way they've set it up even if it has a few bad sha cores it should still work
Bugpowder: switch from flip chip to zif connectors
Diablo-D3: gigavps: there is just a lot of evidence against them
Bugpowder: vendors say they can do the spec sheet. they cant do the spec sheet
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: yeah, that really sucks
Diablo-D3: I wonder if thats all the same fab and it either changed hands or works for multiple companies
Bugpowder: smaller budget though.
Bugpowder: It literally took 2 years to go from working prototype to successful production run
Bugpowder: from the bonding
Bugpowder: The biggest issue we had with our custom silicon probes was the bump soldering to each lead
Diablo-D3: a lot of companies offer packaging as well so you dont have to go off site to do it
Bugpowder: So were do these guys do the bonding and packaging of the silicon
Diablo-D3: they can make anything if you supply them with the mask.
Diablo-D3: Bane_Capital: these are all chip fabs
Bane_Capital: Can these guys make ASICs?
Diablo-D3: I didnt know this
Diablo-D3: smic is in shanghai and beijing and tianjin, 45, 65, 90, 130
Diablo-D3: ibm ha two fabs in the US, fishkill ny and essex junction vt, but I dont know what sizes
mircea_popescu: Bane_Capital they're producing hot chicks in uniform at an amazing rate.
Diablo-D3: sorry, three in taiwan
Diablo-D3: tsmc has two different plants in taiwan, they do a bunch of sizes including 65 and 130, plus one in shanghai
Diablo-D3: 28, 180, 350, and 600 (holy shit they still have a 600nm plant open)
Diablo-D3: amd/globalfoundries has one in germany, does 45nm and will also be the site of their next gen stuff
Diablo-D3: all of them do 22, 32, or 45, and chandler is building a 14nm fab
Diablo-D3: intel has four fabs in the US, hillsboro or, chandler az, rio rancho nm, and hudson ma
Diablo-D3: intel still does 65nm at the fab in chandler az
Diablo-D3: I'd rather the chips be fabbed here
Diablo-D3: which is the big issue
Diablo-D3: usagi: there are no 130nm and 65nm fabs in the US afaik
Diablo-D3: usagi: but Ill also remind you taiwan is not recognized by the UN and their seat is held by China.
Diablo-D3: theres also two major industrial fan manufacturers there
PsychoticBoy: yes but they forgot yours
Diablo-D3: Im also aware most non-memory storage devices are made there
Diablo-D3: yes, Im aware that 98% of the world's memory is produced in taiwan.
Diablo-D3: usagi: the republic of china.
Diablo-D3: where do you think almost all the world's chip fabs are
PsychoticBoy: If asicminer will succeed, thats the question, I dont believe it
Diablo-D3: usagi: exactly, and if they miss the october launch date, asicminer wins
Diablo-D3: and you have to pay for the entire run up front
Diablo-D3: plus they asked for investor money up front
Diablo-D3: so Im just putting 1 and 1 together to get 2 here.
Diablo-D3: if they had 10 million in the bank they could afford a PR firm to stop fucking up shit as well
Diablo-D3: unless they had 10 million in the bank
Diablo-D3: 65 still has them, small wafer size 130s dont
gigavps: you look at their bank account?
Diablo-D3: unless they got VERY lucky to get a shared silicon 65nm run, they wont be on 65nm
gigavps: Diablo-D3 how do you know that?
Diablo-D3: gigavps: because its all they can afford
Diablo-D3: unless they went the altera sasic 65nm route
mircea_popescu: didn't they claim 80 ?
mircea_popescu: jesus that's some heavy duty draw.
gigavps: and 8kW per Th
gigavps: Diablo-D3 i'm an almost positive that ASICMINER specs are at 8w/Gh
Diablo-D3: asicminer is one of those companies that you dont want to know how the sausage is made
Diablo-D3: aiscminer had to bust their asses to catch up to bfl's unverified lead
Diablo-D3: asicminer says nov or dec, they are cutting it close but will make it
Diablo-D3: bfl says october, they wont make it
Diablo-D3: if the finished boards have not arrived by jan, NOBODY gets anything until late feb
Diablo-D3: the problem is this
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: I specifically wired up with 12/3, 20A plugs, full armoured conduit, nothing inside the walls, to accommodate future power requirements. We'll see! heh heh.
Diablo-D3: so even if asicminer is 50th on 200, they won
Diablo-D3: anyhow, 50th for 532 (which has already been announced as too high as an early estimate) vs 50th on 100
Diablo-D3: twice that on a minirig still fits on a 15
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: !! Well that's interesting. I haven't read that.
midnightmagic: Diablo-D3: Well, even if it's twice that, or three times that, so long as they fit on a 20A circuit, I'm fine with that.