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rg: ;;later tell nefario done
mircea_popescu: look, if you put no company money into anything then you can't own anything. nothing from nothing doctrine.
Diablo-D3: so, was verizon right in canceling those contracts after selling them to fairpoint? according to you, they're not assets even though they were crucial to the operation of the phone system
mircea_popescu: a ok. i fail to see how that applies to your case.
Diablo-D3: now, what verizon did was cancel those contracts after fairpoint purchased them but before the ownership switchover date passed
Diablo-D3: fairpoint is one of the big phone companies in the US
Diablo-D3: in the contract between them and verizon when they bought up the northeast service area, assets sold to fairpoint included various contracts
Diablo-D3: fairpoint would largely disagree with you on that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: its funny you bring that up
BTC-Mining: Anyone wants to get rid of their GIGAMINING shares?
mircea_popescu: "No BTC from DMC has gone into the web hosting service project" this would mean "no assets".
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem to answer the question. assets.
Doffx: Sorry im bored and waiting for game to download.
Doffx: I bought 1000 shares and traded it for DMC
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the dmc thread
mircea_popescu: which thread isn't a mess ?
Doffx: That was an Iphone text moment in IRC.
Diablo-D3: jesus the dmc thread is a mess
Doffx: What the heck is languange?
Doffx: wow thanks spell check
Diablo-D3: slightly more approximate than yours at times
Doffx: Not even close, there would need to be at least 10 mispellings, and 15 typos and a sentance that makes no sense whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: Doffx nono. try softer :D
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i got a girl to do that for me.
Doffx: Need to try harder I suppose.
Doffx: haha, I was just trying to be funny.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you... dont read... threads....
mircea_popescu: Doffx i get weekly digests, but more's the point, wtf sort of q is this to need a reference answer. "yes, 500 dollars in cash and a used condom.". "no"
Doffx: mircea_popescu, is all knowing, he doesnt do threads.
mircea_popescu: i never read any thread lol.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: read the thread more
mircea_popescu: well i never saw teh answer, so waht is it ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: Ive already answered the question
Doffx: Wtf with your name too
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yes, I have some celery in the fridge, shareholders can have it.
Doffx: dammit I cant seem to hit the . button tonight
nefario1: had some organic coke the other day
mircea_popescu: no. does dmc own tangible assets outside of glbse
Diablo-D3: are you asking the question if DMC is moving ahead on other parts of the plan? yes.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining well his theory is that under any management other than his own investors are "getting shafted" mostly because the liquidation value of assets diverges from the arbitrary value he assigned to same assets.
Doffx: It makes me sad daily that I didnt sell at 12 when I planned then talked myself out of it
Doffx: I am on that other list jcpham
Doffx: I still want to see friedcat get his going sooner.
BTC-Mining: He's going to either liquidate the assets and return the funds to shareholders or motion for a new person to manage DMC
Doffx: I think even modminer will be january
Doffx: I realisticly expect these things around january
jcpham: that other thing
mircea_popescu: it's been going up and down with the wind.
jcpham: Doffx is also on that list of people repaid
Doffx: Its coming out next week, you didint see the post?
nefario1: they can always vote down the motion
[\\\]: asicminer going up, does someone know something the rest of us don't know?
Diablo-D3: nefario1: that you're going to shaft shareholders based on a motion most of them dont have enough information to make a decision on
nefario1: what threats?
Diablo-D3: I havent stopped working on DMC, even with nefario's threats
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: yes, and I have been working through them
BTC-Mining: or at least that's my opinion
BTC-Mining: ... on the contrary, you need to work through them. Being little things, they're easily walked over, not impossible to pass walls.
mircea_popescu: in this case it worked in reverse.
Diablo-D3: if you let every little thing stop you, you'd never get anything done
Diablo-D3: you have to be stubborn to do this kind of work
Doffx: I thought my wife was bad, glad im not married to you!
Doffx: Diablo-D3, haha you have got to be the most stubborn person ive ever seen.
mircea_popescu: nah, i recall a conversation we had where you were trading about 1/6 of mkt value
Diablo-D3: the only thing that differed greatly was asicminer
Diablo-D3: I traded most of the stuff for _now_ ~1 btc = 1 dmc
Diablo-D3: instead of thinking about it for a moment, they ran off half cocked and will probably end up costing them their investment
mircea_popescu: what ELSE would they get pissed at ?
Diablo-D3: no, people got pissed off at what they thought was happening
BTC-Mining: It's that part which pissed everyone off, mostly.
BTC-Mining: but was always made against existing shareholders to the profit of new people coming in. You always changed the trading rate to be under NAV to constantly attract people to trade shares with DMC.
mircea_popescu: when you failed to get your original funds (1 mn btc) you should have repaid investors and that's that ; not doing that the next best thing would have been to trade market rather than your imaginary valuations. you got raped cause of them.
Diablo-D3: the trading provided much needed liquidity to the market
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining does have a point there.
BTC-Mining: The trading part was not however. Trading rates should have been motioned
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: I outsourced the mining until the DC is done
BTC-Mining: If you consider reinvesting in equipment to be equivalent to buying mining stocks, then yes, for that part, 50% reinvestment is ok.
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: read the contract terms again
BTC-Mining: It's also quite against the contract terms, it was supposed to be for buying mining equipment. You should have motioned going fund managing and the trading chart rates.
mircea_popescu: they usually throw some kickass parties, but meh.
Doffx: Ohhh that looks like fun mircea_popescu
BTC-Mining: You've never made sense, trading DMC shares for less than par value. It works like a reverse ponzi. The late investors get more.
mircea_popescu: jcpham http://www.xbizeu.com/schedule.php there, pussycash is sponsoring teh registrations.
mircea_popescu: lol im sure the girls have seen it all.
jcpham: i just can't hve nice things
nefario1: is that why you're locked in your mothers basement?
jcpham: and i just can't give it to them
jcpham: if i go to conference, i'd probably start a riot
mircea_popescu: jcpham btc, XBIZ London would prolly be more to your taste anyway. i think i have invites somewhere too
[\\\]: man, that airfare is going to eat whatever value is in DMC
[\\\]: going to visit Diablo-D3?
[\\\]: How will the auditor know what mining assets DMC has?
mircea_popescu: how exactly is this "audit" going to go exactly ?
nefario: The audit should be done before the vote is closed
jcpham: what's the problem
jcpham: Diablo-D3 i remember when i thought u were joking about DMC
Diablo-D3: DMC cant be audited until the shareholders sign off on the auditors.
BTC-Mining: [\\\] no one is, for now there's only a motion about if Diablo should be thrown out of managing DMC
mircea_popescu: or else you're getting hard nipple in the eye.
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 especially if it gets cold at all, they can stab you in teh eye.