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mircea_popescu banged plenty of what locally counted for middle class gals who nevertheless maintained the pretense on 5-600 a month.
mircea_popescu: well, considering from experience few locals have even half that to play with, should make survival possible.
asciilifeform: less than dc by fat chunk.
mircea_popescu: that takes him then to what, (570 +311 +620)*1.1 ? ie, marginally costing more than the dc ?
asciilifeform: as i recall the obstacle was, however, that BingoBoingo would have to front a month of its cost ? or what was it
asciilifeform: ( considering that a fairly decent flat can be had ~already~ for cost of the cowork desk + fleapit )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i proposed +10% as concretely 'flat AND pants'-enabling figure. plox to correct if by your reckoning it is not so.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aite, will throw the switch when trinque gives the signal, then.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, just ignore it. eventually the data will have to be prettified. when someone has the time.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I just prefer not to look things up if something can be said such as: "hey, the cocksuckers are cramping my style, need some space between myself and them" << As mentioned, I have the hostel side of that rather settled. My immediate concern is pants. That will be followed by something else reaching the end of its service life, etc.
asciilifeform: trinque had kindly let me 'cheat' by using the logs as the tool to find the hostnames, to date...
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 02:38 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, the reason it was done this way originally was not a price consideration but forced societal insertion.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what the contention is here at all. the "hey, we're paying ~same for current arrangement as apt would cost" point was, i thought, thoroughly resolved with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1808553 convo yest. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i really ought to do, arguably, is look'em up and retro-diddle the Framedragger keys' userstrings in the db . ~however~ this would change their hash ! and break all the old links.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:30 asciilifeform: !Q later tell mircea_popescu i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won't have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced.
mircea_popescu: they do at-will rentals anyway. the term is enforceable against the owner ; not so much the tenant. anyway.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Right, been burned on the advanced payments here before. Just looking at the total sum of things.
mod6: lot less mystery there.
mod6: I just prefer not to look things up if something can be said such as: "hey, the cocksuckers are cramping my style, need some space between myself and them"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:18 mod6: Look, I would apprciate if we can use plain language, no spanglish, no whatever flower-y things. I just need to read-once, parse-once.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809504 << it's a reference to german colonialism. basically, "settlement allowance" or w/e. ☝︎
mod6: Picture in my mind... when I read 'shore leaves', I start taking that literally, like 'oh, he went to BA?! nice! How come he didn't say so?!?!?!', etc etc.
mod6: When discussing business decisions, indeed, this would be great. I'm pretty thick, you see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it would not be inconceivable either pizarro or nsa buys some real estate in that town, i guess.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma put ' to be very concrete! with mod6 ! ' on my chalkboard
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, yeah but i mean, i paid quarterly as a rule, and it was exceptional. they generally do monthly payments. the wisdom of doing 3 year lump sum payments to spanish speaking peoples is debatable in any case.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: BingoBoingo devoted a great deal of space to the subj in own www and in the logs, i assumed , imho justifiably, that you knew. << I did hear about a 'girl', which I was happy to hear! I just didn't know what 'shore leaves' was. Had to do 3 minutes of gymnastics. This is about comms with mod6.
asciilifeform: supposedly, for low 5fig one can even purchase outright a building in that town.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Here they like to stretch the lease to 24 or 36 months. The fifth figure comes from figuring the full contract length.
mircea_popescu: i didn't expect it moved much in the interval.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your figure is approx correct, based on various 'find a flat' www that BingoBoingo had found.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 minute ago: <asciilifeform> i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won't have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:04 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of Pizarro is still being done on a month
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809491 << from experience the (complete) cost for a http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/ locus, ie, 2/3 bedroom apt, is somewhere around 8-9k/year. notrly reaching into five figures, is it ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: hotel room, and the Peruana and I get to work on improving morale.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> what is a 'shore leaves' ? << At some point, usually 7 days after the last bang session the peruana starts to feel abandoned and to keep her available I have to find a place to bang her out. For a while the Cowork bathrooms were adequate for this purpose, but after one particularly energetic night/morning using the Cowork bathrooms for exercise became untenable. And people at the hostel gotta sleep. Thusly on day 8 or 9 I get a
asciilifeform: mod6: BingoBoingo devoted a great deal of space to the subj in own www and in the logs, i assumed , imho justifiably, that you knew.
mod6: Wasting 3 minutes of my time to ponder that is kinda .. exactly what I'm saying.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mircea_popescu i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won't have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced. ☟︎
mod6: Got it. Just say that next time, jeeze.
mod6: You're saying, every eight or nine days, you need to get a hotel room to bang some girls.
mod6: I'm totally clueless here, you'll have to forgive me.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to describe, for edification of mod6 , the exact procedure.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my current understanding is that it is simply your 'shore leaves' in hotel ? am i right ?
mod6: 2) What is BB spending that is not recorded.
mod6: Anyway, I'm all for it if we think we can make it work.
mod6: I'm simply saying, you should not have to translate for men who already 'speak' english.
asciilifeform: mod6: theoretically i 'shouldn't have to' lug 100kg of iron in a cart across 2 continents, but sometimes gotta do things 'shouldn't have to', lol
mod6: You shouldn't have to do this.
BingoBoingo: screeching monkeys are more like a one weekend out of every two sort of deal. I stress more over decisions like "when am I going to replace my pants (all of them) with ones that fit?"
asciilifeform: and i will personally concretize ( and perhaps be corrected by others, but at any rate will try )
asciilifeform: mod6: feel entirely free to say, whenever you must, 'this makes 0 sense, gotta concretize'
mod6: And by all means, use whatever language in #trilema; I'm referring to when discussing pizarro proposals with me in particular. Too many mental gymnastics otherwise.
asciilifeform: i think mod6 understands.
mod6: Lol, oh yeah, i hear ya. I'm not disputing the need for a 'flat' or whatever, just trying to make sure I understand these points being made.
asciilifeform: would like a place to live, where the door closes, like you and i have.
asciilifeform: mod6: d00d is stewing in own juices in the barracks, surrounded by screeching monkeys
mod6: Look, I would apprciate if we can use plain language, no spanglish, no whatever flower-y things. I just need to read-once, parse-once. ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as soon as he coughs up the april statement ( containing, recall,actual revenue ) i will insist on a discussion of concrete plan to get BingoBoingo into proper flat and into non-itemized regular swap of pants.
asciilifeform: as for numbers, ben_vulpes are you still missing anything ? to make the end-of-april report
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A couple weeks out, Target date to have it in hand is the 16th barring any surprises
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how close is the magic personhood card with which to incorporate ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:47 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i recall many sticking points around the flat; wouldja enumerate? water heater, previous flatrental...?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of Pizarro is still being done on a month ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: do shit like buy pants that fit without feeling pressured to itemize the expense would be appreciated. A proposal with less leibenstraum could also be acceptable if it includes lump sum payments for hitting certain milestones.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object; pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809223 << The cinches seem to be a rather solved problem at this point. Since the Cowork bathroom stopped being a viable location for banging, picking up a hotelroom one night every 8-9 days has helped the morale. I can continue the hostel life for quite some time. The bigger morale hit is... the lack of pocket money and the lack of a clear future where there is more pocket money. Room in the budget to ☝︎
BingoBoingo: that there are numbers which we didn't have in February it would be a great comfort generally to see the board coming forward with plans, however rough, that at least expand out to a year.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can come up with a number, but I would like to see a proposal coming from the board that covers a year and moves away from the month to month shoot from the hip approach. A big part of the appeal of submitting to management was outsourcing the worry allocation. Even if it takes a week or two, seeing the board work through the process of putting an offer together so I don't have to stress over assembling an offer. Now
asciilifeform: can't let the delish iron, go to waste.
asciilifeform took the expected day or 2 of pause, chance, to run fermat
asciilifeform: ( thus far reported just the same 2 outputs as in summer of '16 )
mircea_popescu: exciting times.
mircea_popescu: not to be forgotten about , though, dood's done some excellent work for it.
asciilifeform: and after that, we can do e.g. sks refresh.
asciilifeform: i'ma then feed in the rest of Framedragger's collection; by the time trinque wakes up, oughta be ready to fire.
asciilifeform: but then i could not myself read it!111
mircea_popescu: alternatively you can just 404 the /rss
asciilifeform: oook so let's signal trinque to switch off feed for nao ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 15:40 mircea_popescu: it seems to me ridiculous to a degree bordering on infantilism that it is "impossible" to get the data out after being so complexly massaged into utility ; but be that as it may, let phuctor run and report on its website, the interested will try and sift through whatever it publishes on their own time.
asciilifeform: iirc i described all of the 'fast' pills i could think of, already.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought lobbes went off to write a proggy, neh
mircea_popescu: ok, but this isn't also going to take weeks is it ?
mircea_popescu: did you get it back to churning ?
asciilifeform: ( somebody rousted the hamster hill ? i've nfi )
asciilifeform: coincidentally, jump of www traffic on dulap in past half hr.
mircea_popescu: apparently they've not earned nirvana just yet.
asciilifeform: ( if it happens tonight, it ain't a day too soon )
mircea_popescu: i imagine they'll be kinda happy once dead. finally, relieved from all these burdens too great, the embarassment of existence.
asciilifeform: i for one can't wait for the DAO-connected-to-rockets
mircea_popescu: such luzly cluelessness as to how to win a war, it's possibly the prime field of ustardian bogonism. i mean... they can;'t program computers, sure. but at least the computer doesn't shoot you for being an idiot.
mircea_popescu: kinda. no, it';s more about how "great idea to have robots in combined arms with humans -- they can tattletale!!!"
asciilifeform: or is that last yr's rubbish.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you should see all the tmsr-wannabe stuff emanating from the usarmy "dept of research", by the way. it's all about "network centric" technologees such as fighting bots with ethical ethics and whatnot. one helluva riot.
asciilifeform: the moar advanced specimens also seem to think that they have academics who 'do research', judges who 'dispense justice', army which 'wins wars', etc
asciilifeform: zx2c4: the logs countain a thousand examples. e.g. most americans are convinced that they can buy and drink milk in the corner shop ( they cannot, they buy 'ultrapasteurized' rubbish that tastes nothing like actual milk) ; that they live in 'nice house' ( they live in equiv of movie set, made of matchsticks, that falls over when first serious gust of wind ), that ... i could go on for a week and not even scratch the surface
mircea_popescu: maybe the idea comes from their (somewhat rare habit) of copulating lying down rather than standing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have seen and touched camel and esp. revel in the absurdity of the picture
mircea_popescu: i dunno anyone ever tried to fuck it, in preference of say fucking the toilet seat hole.