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Diablo-D3: you fired a flashlight from the rear of the ship
Diablo-D3: lets say you were at 99.9~% of the speed of light
Diablo-D3: you'd essentially be chasing them dead on
Diablo-D3: the interesting thing is, if you fired of photons, you'd never see them get reflected back
Diablo-D3: since time effectively stops from the perspective of outside the ship, you never burn that last ounce of fuel to go as fast as the speed of light
OneMiner: Bah, everything is relative. That has to do with human society too.
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: theres another problem
OneMiner: There's no way we know of to pack that much energy into anything. Because you'd have to accelerate the mass of your fuel too. It's impossible based on what we know now. Not that that means mutch.
Diablo-D3: jcpham: we've done matter/antimatter reactions in the lab already
jcpham: the science behind that reaction is untold energies
Diablo-D3: but then we're looking at dyson collection arrays
Diablo-D3: jcpham: no, the entire output of the sun could probably power a warp drive for a short period
jcpham: we're talking more energy than say a sun, right
Diablo-D3: so if you're traveling at 80% of the speed of light, the photons are already at the speed of light on creation
[\\\]: All this geekery makes me horny
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: yes, but theres another thing
OneMiner: Smoovious the thing is it's all relative. The light speed is relative to light speed. Time slows for those who go so fast. So the same thing is happening to that light. It can't overtake light.
Diablo-D3: yeah, it probably can be done, but it takes a fucking shitload of energy
Diablo-D3: well, thats what a star trek warp drive is
jcpham: we just solved that
jcpham: so bitcoin is totally terrestrial
OneMiner: I was totally serious BTW. Star Treak could be real. If you think not, it's a failure of the imagination. We stand on the edge of so many things.
Diablo-D3: takes 14 minutes to get a signal from mars most of the time
Diablo-D3: jcpham: doesnt matter, the ten minute block lag is too much
jcpham: or some type of interstellar backbone
Diablo-D3: and manually transfer wealth between them using off-chain exchanges
Diablo-D3: the bubble collapses near the destination
Diablo-D3: star trek solved it by putting normal communications in warp bubbles
OneMiner: Mars is the only option. For everything. One rock from space could take us out. Bunkers be damned, that's no protection.
Diablo-D3: oh, you mean the speed of light problem?
jcpham: and you have to relay commands back home
jcpham: assume the system is still earthly
Diablo-D3: jcpham: star trek has large scale quantum computing
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: I would like to retire and live the rest of my life on mars, to be honest
OneMiner: This one planet thing is for the birds, now that you brought it up. Gotta get outta' here, if it's the last thing we ever do.
Diablo-D3: many plants have panels _from that plant_ on the roof.
Diablo-D3: look at what a few solar manufacturing plants did.... their biggest drain on resources is electricity
Diablo-D3: the thing is, energy production is a run away process
jcpham: to travel from star system to sytem
__Atlas__: Free only means acquiring something with little to no cost.
OneMiner: Fusion is pretty close. That could bridge the gap.
__Atlas__: What is free? Ask yourself that.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: hell, we just only recently proved the existence of the subatomic particle that makes matter matter.
jcpham: assbot needs to start laying down the banhammer on atlas more
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: we just dont know how to convert energy back into mass yet
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: well, thats the thing, we dont even know what mass exactly is yet
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: compared to what we have, its free.
OneMiner: jcpham I started reading about all the "investment options" good lord.... There's too much material.
__Atlas__: It's only a matter of time.
[\\\]: jcpham: I'm gonna poke you in the eye with a magnet
__Atlas__: Yes, the means to acquire energy can be made efficient enough to where it's considered "free"
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: what kirk had would be enough to run the entire planet
[\\\]: err, technology
[\\\]: are we really debating fucking star trek personality?
Diablo-D3: but they're sitting on a reactor that produces more energy than the modern day earth produces yearly.
OneMiner: nonono. This is fun. Who the hell reads this chan anyways?
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: it abuses the same laws of physics that the holodeck uses to give photons mass
[\\\]: well this is fun
jcpham: trewl iz trewlin
[\\\]: Shut the hell up
__Atlas__: Shut the hell up
smickles: Shut up the hell
[\\\]: Shut the hell up
__Atlas__: Shut the hell up
[\\\]: Shut the hell up
__Atlas__: Shut the hell up
[\\\]: Shut the hell up
Diablo-D3: which is extremely dangerous when you think about it
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: no, they figured out how to create mass out of nothing
Diablo-D3: replicators use a LOT of energy to run
OneMiner: Replicators are not free. They take time to make and design. Hard word would have to go into it.
[\\\]: Shut the hell up
jcpham: the star trek future depends on free resources
Diablo-D3: a third world war that wiped out 2/3rds of the world population
Diablo-D3: OneMiner: yes, but look at what it took
OneMiner: Go ahead and make fun but I think Star Treak pained an achievalbe future. Beyond money and beyond position to a degree. It's within our powers to have world peace and whatever else we want. Not in our lifetimes but not so much longer than that ether.
Diablo-D3: they are people too.
Diablo-D3: its a right given to us by whatever creator you believe in.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: that goes beyond government or religion or any other Earthly concept.
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: everyone has a right to live an honest life.
__Atlas__: Should they be free and capable?
__Atlas__: or should they be made powerful?
[\\\]: shut the hell up
Diablo-D3: yet thats what they currently do
__Atlas__: \\\: So, should the weak be kept weak and dependent?
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: everyone gets an education, everyone gets to spend their lives doing something that is meaningful to them
__Atlas__: Because I am the boss here.
[\\\]: you should shut the hell up
[\\\]: I dont need to put you on ignore
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: no more sickness, no more starving huddled masses, no more insane competition for resources among the weak and the poor
__Atlas__: You are free to put me on ignore.
[\\\]: I said you should shut the hell up
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, but imagine this... what if everything the government has to do could be ran on just 10% of your income.
[\\\]: no, you should shut the hell up
__Atlas__: \\\: So the weak should remain weak?
[\\\]: go back to hiding
Diablo-D3: he has a point though
mircea_popescu: but ofcouse dashy beat me to it
[\\\]: I've been in here for three lines and you've already pissed me off
mircea_popescu: i was typing o get the hell out