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mjr_: i really don'
t care
mjr_: and you obviously aren'
t smart enough to be a part of the convo
mjr_: glad i don'
t have to share it with you
mjr_: you haven'
t answered how empiracally this would be any different when trying to sell a car
mjr_: i really really don'
t care
mjr_: you said they CAN'
T and DON'
T Vexual: youre broke, you can'
t afford to make a graph
MisterE: mjr_: you don'
t think the current syetm is sustainable do you?
mjr_: i seriously don'
t see why you are talking about this, so maybe i missed your main point?
mjr_: i don'
t even understand your point
mjr_: you said dollars couldn'
t exist without debt
mjr_: the treasury doesn'
t just give the money to the fed
MisterE: cerelenius: either way it won'
t bother me
mjr_: but they don'
t create it
mjr_: i don'
t care what they write on paper
mjr_: you don'
t redeem them
mjr_: they don'
t issue them
mjr_: since you don'
t seemm to understand
mjr_: not if you don'
t owe anything
mjr_: yes i know all this, and it doesn'
t change the fundamental everyday reality
mjr_: whatever we have done in the last 40 years doesn'
t fundamentally change the meaning of the word money
mjr_: then it isn'
t backed by the house...
mjr_: no...you really don'
t understand...
mjr_: it doesn'
t work that way
mjr_: oh, so it represents a debt that won'
t be paid to me
greenspan_fan: let's pretend we're talking about something that doesn'
t involve contracts
greenspan_fan: your line of reasoning is based off of axioms that other people don'
t agree with
greenspan_fan: then don'
t invest in bitcoin. You'll get better returns with your trailer park meth lab.
greenspan_fan: cerelenius usury is what deadbeats call it when they can'
t meet the interest payments (because they're deadbeats), let alone the principal
davout: mircea_popescu: wrong, the smart jews don'
t have anything left in gox since 2011
mircea_popescu: jurov what i don'
t understand is... why are all those black guys dressed like if they were white ?
davout: into anything anyway, don'
t even know who the fuck you are
davout: lol, don'
t see me as french, i'm half dutch, half nigerian
mircea_popescu: it wouldn'
t make sense no matter how large the market is, because you arguably can still control it.
davout: wouldn'
t it make sense if the market was larger?
davout: i didn'
t even think about using x.eur's
davout: mebbe other that i forget/don'
t know about
ninjashogun: guys I've received some suggestions to "lurk" and "read logs" here, which I wouldn'
t really have time to do. It was nice meeting you all though and I may be back as the project progresses. Overall I don'
t think I will be spending a ton of time building WoT, advisors, etc - as I have real-world references for the moment that I would expect anyone to consutl.
Bugpowder: argh can'
t transfer bitcoin on work network, even when VPN'ed to elsewhere
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, when you said above that this channel was worth "over $1b" I didn'
t takei
t seriously as if it has like 500 regulars then just a couple of people worth $50M - or a single Internet billionaire who drops in sometimes - would account for that
lnovy: ok, I don'
t get it :)
mircea_popescu: and then if they don'
t listen sometimes they live long enough to apologize.
mircea_popescu: i didn'
t write it at all, and tech details haven'
t really been released.
joecool: mircea_popescu: again i don'
t use them either, the lack of support though isn'
t from waryness, it's from the number of old gnupg clients in the wild
antephialtic: wait it does? I'm running osx with gpg from homebrew and it doesn'
t have ecdsa as an option
antephialtic: speaking of which, its a bit ridiculous that GPG still doesn'
t support ECDSA keys
davout: oh nice, i didn'
t the dip
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan i take it your wife doesn'
t ask, just takes ? :D
ninjashogun: greenspan_fan, I haven'
t asked you for money :)
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: Nope, it sounds like a good idea, but I don'
t think it will really work. the reason the pregnancy ones work is the hormone level goes up >1000x. MMPs are not that unregulated, maybe 2-3x by volume? Need to read the paper but I imagine the ROC curve is pretty ugly.
greenspan_fan: personally, I think it would be cool to invest in a start up, but I'm kinda averse to giving cash to pseudonyms in irc who aren'
t incorporated, have no references, no demos
ninjashogun: the other thing is we don'
t REALLY have any capitalization requirements.
ninjashogun: So what I was tihnking is that this isn'
t a real 'forum' (in that most IRC channels are basically just trolls etc) and that I would just escalate to another form of contact (skype etc) and be in touch while it gets rolled out
greenspan_fan: it isn'
t meant to be discouraging, just that you have to do some ground work, have something to show off (like a demo, or some sort of model, at least), before anyone can make an informed investment decision
mircea_popescu: and get a positive result, you haven'
t in fact consulted any advisors.
mircea_popescu: i get that this doesn'
t help you any in the sense of getting you to do what you want to do
greenspan_fan: it doesn'
t have to be a solution, just an approximation
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun they're also inclined to play, something vc's aren'
t normally. ATC got started because people were bored and so far cost about 50k or thereabouts.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, it doesn'
t matter if they're worth $10M altogether or $10B. As long as at least one person here has a portfolio and is interested in startups
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, ok... that doesn'
t really help me though :) I'm not here raising Series A.
ninjashogun: antephialtic - No, I don'
t want to specify it here. It's not about solving an unsolved problem, but rather applying existing theory in a novel way.
copumpkin: and the good people aren'
t looking
ninjashogun: Yes, but we have an innovation they don'
t.
nubbins`: some people don'
t want the best and brightest, they just want people who can do an okay job
mircea_popescu: (some people don'
t want to do a specific job, but whatever, some people don'
t want something specific done, but whatever IS done) ?
greenspan_fan: you don'
t need business, just data. Cash out and pass the buck to facebook or whomever
ninjashogun: greenspan_fan, I don'
t think so. I am sure every job site would be open to us sending people to their ads :)
nubbins`: you just won'
t be able to make a physical model of it anymore
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan yes, but that doesn'
t mean any part of qm is inaccessible to matrix.
ninjashogun: No, keyword search doesn'
t use graph theory. It uses set theory. (In the form of database design)
OneFixt: Bugpowder: i have enough, Bugpowder, don'
t worry
mircea_popescu: rather than try and corner the entire market. cornered markets don'
t grow.
Bones_: If everyone was in here, then we wouldn'
t make as much money?
mircea_popescu: you know how the twinkleloss brothers don'
t feel like they need to be here ?
mircea_popescu: you know how ycombinator isn'
t hiring BingoBoingo to tell them what's what ?
greenspan_fan: isn'
t that like the clown from those stephen king novels?
mircea_popescu: wasn'
t i explaining before how goxshit isn'
t worth money ?
greenspan_fan: don'
t think mark's going to be responding to anybody
greenspan_fan: are there any bitcoin death pools? because I don'
t think karpeles will have been priced properly yet
greenspan_fan: don'
t worry, I'm sure gox.com is going to be a huge hit