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dub: Smoovious: laywers would argue
that by doing anything with
the list goat is admitting _some_ liability for it
mircea_popescu: but
the entire
thing is a good exercise of "how would bitcoin look if nefario was satoshi"
mircea_popescu: nobody can double claim, nefario can prove all
the claims legitimate and goat can prove all
the claims legitimate
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining he should put a system in where ppl can load
their gpg signatures
BTC-Mining: That or implement a system for people
to submit a BTC adress Nefario can
then give
to Chaang.
tbcoin: is a fight, like many
things other
things around here, lengthen and lengthen until people forget and give up all for lost.
tbcoin: BTC-Mining: is an option, now
that reach an agreement ...
BTC-Mining: Well why doesn't he just regenerate
the codes and send
them encoded?
tbcoin: the sending of
the code was done wrong by Nefario,
that's for sure
dub: because goat cannot
trust nefario
to have not maliciously issued
teh same code
twice, and nefario cannot
trust goat
to have invented
the double claim
dub: its simpler
than
that, as soon as
there is a dispute (e.g. someone
tries
to claim
twice) everyone is fucked
BTC-Mining: Being on GLBSE at all requires
trust in Nefario... Why would GLBSE platform hold any more
trust
than
the codes
tbcoin: Smoovious: he must fulfill
their holders, unless deemed in breach of contract after leaving glbse
dub: insecure, unverifiable, relies on goat and nefario
trusting each other which
they obviously dont
dub: the code scheme is broken, goat would be an idiot
to entertain any notion of using
the solution nefario provided
tbcoin: then, in
the magical case of pirate pay something someday, goat would
take it or he still refuses
to use
the nefarious codes?
Diablo-D3: and has destroyed glbse in
the process
Diablo-D3: Smoovious: yes, but nefario still participated in
that pissing contest
BTC-Mining: Should have at least allowed some delays for Chaang
to prepare.
BTC-Mining: Nefario decides
to kick all Chaang's assets off of GLBSE.
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: yeah, but
the irony now is, nefario might get
that
tag
BTC-Mining: Chaang was demanding Nefario
to be
tagged as a scammer and was uncooperative.
BTC-Mining: Now Nefario wanted
to pay back for
the shares but Chaan was unhappy about
that and not owning a good part of GLBSE and wanted more for
the shares
than
their IPO price if I recall right.
Diablo-D3: tbcoin: a lot of assets are leaving because of what nefario did
to goat and dmc
tbcoin: I withdraw all my funds at
the moment
to removal
TYGRR
Diablo-D3: that doesnt
tie into why nefario closed goat's assets
BTC-Mining: So Chaang understood it as owning GLBSE and decided
to buy shares.
BTC-Mining: Nefario said he would honor
those shares even if
the scammer ran away with
this.
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: yeah, ut
that has nothing
to do with it
dub: it stems from goat holding an asset called GLBSE
that was initailly a scam
that nefario
took over and said he would make legitimate but
then didnt and now wants back for some reason
Diablo-D3: even bitcointalk admins have ordered him
to give a good reason
tbcoin: nefarious has given any explanation? forum I see lot of laps about
the communication between
them
Diablo-D3: and now is
trying
to force a broken redeem system on goat
tbcoin: Someone could summarize what
the fuck is going on with nefarious and goat /
TYGRR?? I've been off
the
topic a while now and I do not understand what happens.
dub: not sure I could have illustrated
that point any better,
thanks.
Diablo-D3: "When I was your age, we rocket jumped all
the way
to school uphill, both ways, in boiling lava"
mircea_popescu: if
they actually deliver something at some point we can
talk ofcourse, but atm seems premature
BTC-Mining: So anyway. Apparently I'm chinese for being on GLBSE, because it's cultural for chinese people
to lack logic. Seems somewhat racist.
rdponticelli_: mircea_popescu: Have you
thought about listing ASICMINER on mpex?
Diablo-D3: the way dancing mad was meant
to be
BTC-Mining: I can't have it loud enough without having
the occasional blast shredding my eardrums.
BTC-Mining: Some sounds are
too low while most beats are just... way
too high.
dub: oh, I assumed
the lack of logic and reasoning was cultural
Diablo-D3: sqaure is fucktarded for not using
this music in a ff6 port
dub: BTC-Mining: aren't you chinese? should be familiar with
that concept
mircea_popescu: "I
think Bitcoin and cryptocurrency stands
to challenge and has
the potential
to
topple
the very notion of unlawful
trade, just like
the printing press challenged and
toppled
the notion of unlawful speech."
Diablo-D3: everything needed
to do final fantasy music: ewql symphonic orchestra, ewql symphonic choir, ewql stormdrum
BTC-Mining: But
the rest is perfect. Closer
to SNES sounds.
Diablo-D3: yeah especially when
theres very good synth choirs out
there
BTC-Mining: The fact it's synthetized is a bit annoying, especially for
the chorus.
BTC-Mining: I don't like
that Black Mages version
too much.
Diablo-D3: and ct still
tops it and I cant figure out why
BTC-Mining: I'm not sure why
the cult around Chrono
Trigger. Definitely one of
the best I ever played but still...
Diablo-D3: and it doesnt help I've beaten it like 50
times
Diablo-D3: everything
that needs
to be
there is
there
Diablo-D3: chrono
trigger is
the best rpg ever. on any platform.
BTC-Mining: yeah of course, never heard anything from
them
tho
Diablo-D3: him and
two other squaresoft composers
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: Im not sure if you know
this, but
the black mages is nobuo uematsu's rock band
Diablo-D3: oh, and I assume you've already played chrono
trigger
Diablo-D3: star ocean and
ToP are impressive uses of
the snes hardware
Diablo-D3: star ocean was made by
the same
team
that did
tales of phantaisa
Diablo-D3: terranigma's internal project name was illusion of gaia 2, but
they're unrelated games (same way FF games are)
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining:
tales of phantasia had a jpop intro. on
the snes. with lyrics.
Diablo-D3: I dont
think I can ever play earthbound again
BTC-Mining: I pretty much never played anything
that was not released in North America
BTC-Mining: I just don't have so much
time
to play everything.
BTC-Mining: Eh, I'd need
to get ff5 or seiken densetsu 3
Diablo-D3: actually, Im almost considering playing either
ToP or ff5 again
Diablo-D3: because
the black mages has a good version of it