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Chaang-Noi: he then went on to say i was acting in bad faith after i send him the weeks emails
imsaguy2: but all the other slanders are ok?
mircea_popescu: why are you dumping their emails lol
imsaguy2: so now they are claiming libel?
Chaang-Noi: and them maged covered for nefario saying it was a misunderstanding
Chaang-Noi: nefario lied to maged
Chaang-Noi: but the thing is... i did not play games or lie
Chaang-Noi: I've had it with these games, from BOTH Nefario and you.
Chaang-Noi: 2) Not attempting to uphold your contract with your investors in good faith.
Chaang-Noi: 1) Publicly lying about having sent Nefario a Bitcoin address. This will be considered libel and ALL posts, made by anybody, referencing this specific lie will be DELETED to protect the forum from legal action.
Chaang-Noi: Failure to do so will result in you being marked as a scammer and possibly even banned for the following reasons:
Chaang-Noi: Within the next 48 hours, please CC Maged@lordaeron.org and theymos@mm.st in an email to Nefario that contains the Bitcoin address you want him to send to. GPG sign it if you have a recognized GPG key.
Chaang-Noi: Sorry to bring you into this, but I have to.
imsaguy2: how are they going to do that?
Chaang-Noi: i was told i would get banned if i did not do someht maged asked
mircea_popescu: i thought they just tag
Chaang-Noi: anyone think i will get banned for "scamming" from the forum soon?
mircea_popescu: Azelphur well ya, that's me lol
Azelphur: it still has that scary dude in the header
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/me-they-say/ this'd be the first article.
mircea_popescu: so in case anyone cares : i've switched my blog to english now.
rdponticelli: There's anything wrong with them?
rdponticelli: So what you loose on nominal terms in pure btc, you gain on the relative value between btc and other commodities
Chaang-Noi: who wants to sell me 720 ltc?
rdponticelli: But is important to notice too that investing in hardware, and even in mining bond, is investing in the security of the network
rdponticelli: If you're putting them somewhere, anywhere, you're risking, and in a way you're shorting
rdponticelli: So, if somebody just want their coins, he must held them himself
rdponticelli: Yeap, that's what I meant
imsaguy2: if/when there's a time it comes crashing down again (ala last June), they'll be glad its there
imsaguy2: people miss that concept
imsaguy2: <rdponticelli> If you buy equipment.. but you may lost profitability in pure BTC << True, but you're also diversifying a bit so taht if the exchange rate starts going down, you'll still have a net gain in USD because of the mining income
DeaDTerra: thanks m8, same to you. I hope Nefario changes his mind and relists your assets again.
DeaDTerra: I am not leaving, just stepping down for a while ^^ I need to finish school and I need to see how the market develops. I will keep running my own projects behind the scene ;) so don't worry about me
Chaang-Noi: deadt was about the oly guy i trusted with my btc for a while
OneEyed: (or count on finding gullible people to buy the bonds)
Chaang-Noi: btw sorry to see you leave DeaDT
DeaDTerra: not paying makes you a scammer. But I mean GIGAVPS could just say fuck it I am not paying even though he has hardware, so hardware does not mean securer or better backing.
OneEyed: People should learn to do some basic mathematical infinite sums or integration before investing in such a "perpetual" bond
DeaDTerra: Instead of backing the bonds with hardware you are backing it with private capital that doesn't make you a scammer.
Chaang-Noi: okay thanks
DeaDTerra: I just said that I understand how they are thinking but the logic is totally incorrect
OneEyed: Chaang-Noi: he didn't, he just explained how people seem to see it
Chaang-Noi: imsaguy2 i loled at that as well
rdponticelli: There's plenty of people who just throw coins at things...
rdponticelli: So, you have to look at the big picture
OneEyed: This reminds be of this "mining turds" thread, which was right to the point
rdponticelli: If you buy equipment, you're investing in the security of the network, but you may lost profitability in pure BTC
kakobrekla: and if you dont want them, send over here.
rdponticelli: But I'm saying that if you want your btc so much, keep them
OneEyed: rdponticelli: usagi is the only one converting to FIAT when it's time to compute a profit/loss :)
OneEyed: rdponticelli is the only one converting to FIAT when it's time to compute a profit/loss :)
rdponticelli: You have to be aware that you're kind of shorting BTC when you invest
DeaDTerra: i can see how people have thought but it's not logical. yet again people are jumping to conclusions
DeaDTerra: The idea is if he doesn't invest into mining then he might not be able to pay it back hence he's a scamer.
rdponticelli: Funnier thing is that I bet most people even made a profit if you count it in fiat
OneEyed: I don't think why Chaang-Noi would be labelled a scammer for not investing into mining equipment. I've just posted in the thread asking how it would make a difference.
rdponticelli: There's no place left in the corner
DeaDTerra: But they will probably get me a scam tag some how anyways.
DeaDTerra: I never guaranteed anything. I actually stated the only thing I guarantee is that I will try my best.
imsaguy2: but I'll just shut up and go back to my corner
rdponticelli: That paired with the lynch mobs is scary
imsaguy2: and if you pay everyone back, by definition, that isn't a ponzi
DeaDTerra: You are a scammer, why? because you can't prove that you aren't. Well I haven't scammed anyone yet? doesn't matter you can't prove that you won't
DeaDTerra: yea that logic is just retarded.
farfi: just like the real world
DeaDTerra: oki, I have yet to get any death threats so that's a plus. I have had some angry people, but they were very civilized about their anger. I am impressed
imsaguy2: not yet today
DeaDTerra: any angry screaming crowd I have to take care of yet?
imsaguy2: "payback is to build trust for the future"
rdponticelli: Don't found time to talk
Chaang-Noi: but they keep pulling me back in
Chaang-Noi: i thought drama was done
Chaang-Noi: the reatrds took the lack of understanding a mining bond to the delisting
femtotube: ok, one dead cat did a tiny bounce :)
Chaang-Noi: it will be nice if nefario does take liability for things going wrong
farfi: VERY patiently then :)
femtotube: political correctness is the main cause for most of the fuck ups
femtotube: looks like those forum mods have no balls to ask the proper questions :)
femtotube: I am no anti* blah. If one fucked up and other did too, then lets untangle the cluster-fuck and move on.
Chaang-Noi: he has been afk the forum as well
farfi: I guess with all Pirate and goat related stuff gone... has no reason to come here...
femtotube: where is this guy?
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 16 hours, 12 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Chaang-Noi: but i bought a lot at .0005 to .002
Chaang-Noi: i sold a lot at .008 to .006
rg: i sold to you at 0.006 before
rg: actually i guess it wouldnt be too healthy
Chaang-Noi: fuck im going to buy more at market right now
Chaang-Noi: check the address you sent to yesterday
rg: did you get to 100k yet?
Chaang-Noi: seems no one else had them
Chaang-Noi: i did not give all my money to pirate
Chaang-Noi: oh there was versicudo or whatever
farfi: tumbleweed then...
Chaang-Noi: i cant be the only person who did not default can id?
rdponticelli: Oh, yes, those who didn't default
rg: [07:39] <Eisenhower34> at the moment its much easier to list those who didnt default than those who did...
Eisenhower34: you only have to go through the lending section and find "scammers"
Eisenhower34: starting with pirate / matthew / rusty / obsi / BDT / ... the list seems endless
Eisenhower34: at the moment its much easier to list those who didnt default than those who did...