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BTC-Mining: just the ETF
mircea_popescu: just the etf.
BitcoinBear: is it just MPOE.ETF, or also the underlying asset of MPEx?
BitcoinBear: oh, I hadn't heard that
BTC-Mining: yeah, made 5 BTC on that
BTC-Mining: Screws up the whole totals and percent when a cell fills with "error"
BTC-Mining: because the API tool often inserts Errors because GLBSE api times out.
BTC-Mining: I have to republish it regularly
BitcoinBear: we just saw one a minute ago, so that should update at some point.
BTC-Mining: and there had been no trades in the last 5 days
BTC-Mining: Yeah, price is taken from API
BitcoinBear: In the spreadsheet, why is MPOE.ETF listed as a 0 value? just because it has not been traded in a while?
dub: what the fuck
BTC-Mining: I end up trading a lot.
BTC-Mining: That's around 2-5% per week depending on the week.
BTC-Mining: I those few months, you can see my personal portfolio went from ~900 BTC to ~1500.
BTC-Mining: I started with 1900$ around around April/May for ~400 BTC and then in end June/August, purchased for 5500 for ~ 500 BTC.
BitcoinBear: and why is the price below the listed price? just the recent selloff of people leaving glbse?
BitcoinBear: not pay much? it is still a better return than my credit card gets from me!
BTC-Mining: Almost daily, there's trades.
BitcoinBear: BTC-Mining how actively do you trade the assets?
BTC-Mining: But I carry most of the risks.
BitcoinBear: Ok, I admit, I think I just missed BTC-Bond when I was going through all the assets trying to find anything. Looks pretty good.
BTC-Mining: already loaded a few since then
BTC-Mining: wow... my pages load faster than that
BitcoinBear: I'm still waiting for the page to load, stupid slow glbse mumble muble mppff
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining something like that.
BTC-Mining: So black market, but not free to everyone to issue anything.
mircea_popescu: it's not black in the sense it doesn't allow listing of shit. it's black i nthe sense it really doesn't care who calls himself "government"
mircea_popescu: and mpex is perfectly black in that sense.
BitcoinBear: afawk? what does that stand for?
mircea_popescu: he's the only one left buying afawk
mircea_popescu: <BTC-Mining> GLBSE will move toward more MPEx like standards, << this can't hurt anything
BTC-Mining: I don't know tho...
BTC-Mining: More than a full fledged stock market.
BTC-Mining: But probably involve registering each asset as a free trading one and involve a quite a bit more paperwork from everyone. And GLBSE would act as a broker for those.
BitcoinBear: It is especially bad when GLBSE is running slow, going through all those page turns just to move an order up a tiny bit to outbid them >:(
BTC-Mining: smickles, american regulations don't matter much if it's a UK market and regulated as per UK laws... americans on GLBSE would be trading on a foreign market.
BitcoinBear: who is it that is always outbidding me by 1 satoshi? It is obnoxious!
smickles: none right now (if they have a lawyer)
Chaang-Noi: glbse is going to die
smickles: you don't know the regs in 'merica
BitcoinBear: they set up the different colors, but everything is still in pink
BTC-Mining: Black market might look like the current GLBSE, idk...
BTC-Mining: GLBSE will move toward more MPEx like standards, rest will be moved out.
BTC-Mining: Those other assets will go to a black market
BitcoinBear: ack, GLBSE running very slow for me today :(
mircea_popescu: onyl lists quality assets that are in clear violation of laws in all countries involved.
asa1024: why not just have a trash can on the desk top and you can drag your bit coin wallet to the trash can and empty it?>
BTC-Mining: I hope the thread was made in the gambling section tho...
BTC-Mining: Have you seen the contract on BTC-BOND and the holdings report?
BitcoinBear: Oh, wait, you run the pass-through?
BitcoinBear: I thought Kraken was somebody else?
BTC-Mining: Also the Kraken one is run by me too.
dub: can see the killer stare
BTC-Mining: You took a look at BTC-MINING/BTC-BOND?
dub: 'bama looks like he's getting ready to rip asshole
BTC-Mining: By the way BitcoinBear, about your thread of what's worth investing in.
gribble: Best bid: 12.8903, Best ask: 12.9899, Bid-ask spread: 0.09960, Last trade: 12.89, 24 hour volume: 31354, 24 hour low: 12.7, 24 hour high: 12.99
Chaang-Noi: we need to hit 13
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i told you.
smickles: BTC-Mining: also, that sort of operation has been deemed illegal, even in the country where they buy the tickets
rdponticelli: smickles: Maybe it got the meaning after you ;)
BitcoinBear: playing the lottery?
smickles: so rdponticelli, I came up with the term before it had a meaning
BTC-Mining: But as long as they actually buy the tickets...
rdponticelli: smickles: so you also deserve the trophy to humility
markac: 1) To be really good. 2) As replacement to okay or great. Note: Usually said with half-hearted meaning or sarcasm OR with little or no interest in the subject of the conversation.A type of happy-go-l
markac: mircea_popescu: "smickles" (de to en, translate.google.com)
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you DO NOT want to know
rdponticelli: You should have a trophy
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining the same way ppl "invested" you mean ?
mircea_popescu: smickles i meant ss's <100% is no competition for mpoe.etf's 1188% as "highest return thibng"
BTC-Mining: It's an annoying tendency, parties want to do thing bringing them instant recognition
BTC-Mining: Why do you think governments keep doing stuff short-term with poor long-term benefits? Because all those damned politicians are interested in their career and current popularity, not what will be achieved in a few decades.
smickles: mircea_popescu: no competition? s2cm ate bad debt via pirate and still gives its shareholders a gain. I'd say that's an epic win
BTC-Mining: People fear the governments... governments fear people...
BTC-Mining: what's up with people complaining GLBSE/SEC all the time?
rdponticelli: So you stole the password to your password manager, not to you
mircea_popescu: lol kakobrekla you know who i do this to all the time ?
mircea_popescu: i think sc2m was closed
BTC-Mining: are you closing SS too?
mircea_popescu: smickles a, well that's no competition then
kakobrekla: now i needed to get one out somehow
smickles: mircea_popescu: based on the last price, ss would be a 75.891883% gain when you include dividend payments
BTC-Mining: GLBSE need those
BTC-Mining: I'll have to pick up MPEx assets passthroughs
BTC-Mining: Only reason I don't run funds by the way is that would interfere with my personal portfolio and I don't want to keep track to not cross-trade.
BTC-Mining: eh, and I probably have too much exposure
rdponticelli: But when I got out of a stock, I take out the btc
rdponticelli: Yea, me too
BTC-Mining: yeah, I had nothing in hand and was cancelling bids during that time
BTC-Mining: you were going for them too eh?
BTC-Mining: What I call good transaction.
BTC-Mining: I was the one who bought the pack at of ETF at 1 BTC each
BTC-Mining: I call this free money
smickles: also, i'm basically just the accountant for SS
mircea_popescu: hah! 509, not quite up to 4 digit par!
assbot: SS [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.59075039 BTC. Last price: 0.0111 BTC. Capital gain: -0.0889 BTC. Total: 0.50185039 BTC. (501.9%)
smickles: mircea_popescu: i found it to be quite nice. I liked accounting for it :)