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BTC-Mining: 3460 USD loaned through BTC-BOND + ~20000 USD through BTC-MINING I'll need the list of holders to return anything back.
noagendamarket: BTC-Mining was one of the better assets
boonies4u: I hope it comes back online... or i'm gonna have to buy an FPGA
BTC-Mining: Considering I started with 7000 USD/900 BTC and ended up with 18000 USD/1500 BTC in value, I'd say trading was good until GLBSE went offline.
noagendamarket: yeah thew mpex fee ius a huge barrier
drekk: i think mpex is actually pretty interesting. i dont care about the domain, porn and alleged child pr0n. but the fee spoils it for me atm
boonies4u: especially for turds
boonies4u: that's fun to
noagendamarket: yes I trade the spread :P
kakobrekla: maybe some mpex user finds this useful http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jtuEzGbv
BTC-Mining: Eh, I had ~18000 USD in assets on GLBSE + 3460 USD loaned through BTC-BOND + ~20000 USD through BTC-MINING
noagendamarket: or sitting on top of a skyscraper and thrpowing $5 notes off it
noagendamarket: bitcoin investing is closely related to flushung the toilet
noagendamarket: for one thing you can buy shares in the exchange itself lol
boonies4u: only mined and traded
noagendamarket: btcjam does most of the stuff glbse does lol
drekk: if you're looking for interests, then of course. dividends != interests. ppl often confuse them
BTC-Mining: Paid far less in interests than any funds/securities.
dakid: how long does it take to get verified these days on mtgox? anyone know
BTC-Mining: I took loans through GLBSE.
drekk: otherwise it sounds like a fun hobby if you have the time at your hands
BTC-Mining: Managing a fund seems like the worst idea you could make.
BTC-Mining: And a single big loss impacts everyone to top it.
BTC-Mining: Most funds were lower than that, around 200-500 BTC tho.
BTC-Mining: Do you really have any incentive to be there most of the day to manage and quickly move positions?
BTC-Mining: You get 5%-10% of the 1-2% investments get weekly (For 1000 BTC, that's around $5-20 per week)
BTC-Mining: I never created a fund for that reason.
BTC-Mining: I think it's mostly people invested in his funds and not happy about the fact usagi chose some investments which were losing investments.
drekk: might be, i don't think the amount of trolls in a thread is a good indicator, tho. especially with usagi it looks to me as if personal/emotional reason were involved
BTC-Mining: Aye, but the thing is, those who took the time to make everything clear and answer everything promptly pretty much don't have those "trolls" in their threads, oddly.
drekk: depends on your ressources. and quality of the trolls. if you find yourself answering questions all day instead of doing business, you've got a problem
BTC-Mining: Answer everything until people can only come up with statements so crazy it would make them look bad to bring them forward. You'd often realize "trolls" were actually more the paranoid type than trolls and eventually are satisfied.
BTC-Mining: Lack of communication? I've seen tons of deposit takers dismissing legit questions as trolls and critics as trolls. Even completly valid points. If they were trolls, well they succeeded, you couldn't even counter-argue.
BTC-Mining: In the meanwhile... let's wait for Saturday.
drekk: seems to be the prob with most assets i've seen on the forum: lack of communication skills
noagendamarket: Nefario should stick to devloping :P
BTC-Mining: They can dev, but take PR decisions?
BTC-Mining: I say the same about Mircea or Diablo-D3.
BTC-Mining: Like I told him once, I believe he is a great developer, but decision wise, he's not good at PR.
noagendamarket: I dont think nefario is dishonest in any way. Just poor decision making.
drekk: ok. not gonna argue over that
drekk: then phrase it that way or add to the FUD
drekk: Smoovious, well... so did you presenting the "moving servers" theory as a fact :P
dub: just look at the website
dub: well we already know that
RogueAI: sure, but I don't think "they are massively incompetent" is much better reasoning than any other
BTC-Mining: As far as I know, nefario already has a place to live.
RogueAI: which just doesn't match up with their ability to use a computer
noagendamarket: hes probably ibn the tower of london lol
RogueAI: well it means they are almost braindead when it comes to writing temporary placeholder text
noagendamarket: the fact hes not in contact with the other major shareholders isnt good.
RogueAI: Smoovius: "We are updating" "We are moving servers" How hard is that to type?
BTC-Mining: Not a coincidence. Just someone also in the UK trying to pass as nefario. Or he just forgot to obfuscate that before coming here to see how people were going.
RogueAI: you think if it was an update or move they could just say so
drekk: Smoovious, last time i checked that was just one of many rumors being spread
BTC-Mining: Just coming from the same ISP as Nefario
BTC-Mining: Who say's that's nefario?
drekk: did the closedown of glbse have any significant impact on mpex trading volume (yet)?
gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu
drekk: TIL: "cockjuggling thundercunts" -- i'll just leave this here
jurov: Looks like it is necessary to assure everyone that the 30BTC fee for new MPEx accounts has no effect on coinbr users, current or future ones.
noagendamarket: I hate those orange jumpsuits
dub: nefario is busy being waterboarded, he'll get back to you shortly
RogueAI: even given the website text? usually there is at least one op idling in that channel (at least there used to be)
RogueAI: no ops in #glbse, that's a bit ominous
rg: i bet they wouldve been way more successful
rg: if they worked on their script
Ignatius-otc: I have never gotten such a call...I will prepare a win virtual machine full of scat porn for the occasion
dub: yeah that shit is OLD
noagendamarket: I ask them to delete system 32
noagendamarket: we get those calls all the time
dub: PsychoticBoy: jesus man, that brings back some memories
Ignatius-otc: that track is win around the 2:00 mark "ladies and gentlemen its time for us to present to you something strong"
Ignatius-otc: i like PsychoticBoy's link tho
dakid: excuse me, i think some one sat on their drum machine :-P
rg: and i bang bang bang do whatever the same
rg: you put the boom boom into my brain
rg: i wanna hit that hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighh yea yea yea
rg: and take me dancin tonight
Doffx: I'm not sure where I said anything bad about them.
dakid: rg: the SEC/FSA already knows about that crack house
rg: you are making fun of two of my friends
rg: what's that supposed to mean
Doffx: He looks like the type of guy that would hang out with mircea_popescu
Doffx: Is that Nefario?
rg: if they didn't
rg: that's like calling the cops and asking them if they know about a crack house
rg: i would not recommend that
PeanutPower: easier for them that way
PeanutPower: i bet they wouldn't recognise it as a real entity
dakid: i wonder if anyones tried twittering/calling the FSA and asking about GLBSE
PeanutPower: i think most people don't consider btc a genuine currency if you read the popular press
dakid: GoonyGooGoo: hahaha, then they'll come after the evil bitcoiners for taking advantage of little kids
PeanutPower: the neodaq or something like that :P
PeanutPower: yeah they have a stock market
GoonyGooGoo: Perhaps we need to lauch our BTC securities on neopets.com
PeanutPower: when you invest neopoints on the neopets site do you need to be an accredited investor ?
dakid: i never thought glbse was a 100% legal, i just assumed it was in the grey area of the law or was based out of a place without such regulations
copumpkin: and I'm guessing that most bitcoiners don't qualify :)
copumpkin: if they're making public offerings, they need to follow regulations, and if not, they need to be talking only to accredited investors