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Ukto: but he would come and
tell someone
Ukto: i did hear a rumor about SEC. but
that doesnt seem plausable, as no actual us$ was involved, and it was in
the UK
MrTiggr: i had a copy of
the ermail with headers
too ... SPF was all intact, everything checked out from a
tch. standpoint
mircea_popescu: MrTiggr anyway, it's well established by now
that its legit
dub: B0g4r7:
there was a
thread started by a guy who claimed
to have claled
the sec lawyer
the letter came from, who asked him questions about GLBSE
B0g4r7: Or rather, it lacks
the obvious signs of inauthenticity commonly found in
these
things.
BTC-Mining: I mean, she could start
the same accusations without passing
things as facts and quoting instead and arguing why it looks shady and why she believes it's highly likely
to be a scam or anything.
MrTiggr: mircea_popescu: yeh i
thought
there was more
than one .. i recall seeing dandan
talking on irc at
the same
time
thos; so i "witnessed" at least one phonecall
B0g4r7: Hm, yea
that email does have
the ring of legitimacy
to it.
BTC-Mining: But really,
the point is not
there about if it ends up being
true, it's
that announcing
things as facts before it happens seems
to really hurt public opinion of MPEx.
BTC-Mining: excuse passing
things as facts which are not.
BTC-Mining: Aye, people are not complaining about if she has a good guess ratio.
They complain about
the fact she pass up unverified information as facts
to push her guesses before
the actual facts happen. It's like someone saying everytime "I saw
that person murder someone" when it never happened and she just had a hunch about it and in her defense, claim
to be right 90% of
the
time. Doesn't really
MrTiggr: iirc danieldaniel made a phonecall
to confirm it (that mustve been funny :D )
mircea_popescu: hey noagendamarket, what's
the confirm count on your oldest
tx ?
B0g4r7: Yeah, I LOL'd at
the patent reference.
BTC-Mining: People are seriously starting
to form a bad opinion of MPOE=PR and indirectly, MPEx because she make up facts/guesstimate
them without verifying
them.
B0g4r7: Like I posted here, I wonder if
the LOTTOMINING
thing was an SEC sting.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining im not even sure where she picked
that up, but prolly in one of
the many usagi drama
threads
BTC-Mining: mircea_popescu, as far as I'm aware, no, but neither was
the fact Usagi somehow had any say about assets listing or not.
MrTiggr: all
the headers checked out and even a phone call was made
to check it i believe
mircea_popescu: it was legit.
they prolly got 1000 complaints forwarded from local da's and whatnot
MrTiggr: looked
TOTALLY legit, noagendamarket
MrTiggr: ^^ or mircea_popescu can find
the pastie
MrTiggr: B0g4r7: i have a copy of
the email but not sure if its kosher
to pass it around ....
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7
there's a pastebin, want me
to dig it out for you ?
MrTiggr: B0g4r7: was
that directed at me ?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining how'd she research
things
that are privy
to like a few people ? was what you claim now posted anywhere ?
MrTiggr: mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 ....
the "SEC Guy"
thing is in reference
to an email recieved by some from SEC i am pretty sure
BTC-Mining: It might not be deliberate, but it's bad PR if
the facts she gives are not accurate, especially when making serious accusations.
BTC-Mining: I'll reply soon
to
the
thread, I just mean, ask her
to research
the facts a
thoroughly.
B0g4r7: ^ what is
this referring
to?
B0g4r7: "feel sorry for anyone who didn't pull out after learning
that
the SEC guy knew something would be happening with GLBSE."
BTC-Mining: She gives half stories keeping only parts
to make it look worse, and people spot it. Makes MPOE-PR look bad and
thus MPEx
noagendamarket: The problem is Nefario
takes more notice of
the people on
this "board"
than people whio actually own
the company....
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining well, so you're in a better position
than her
to know. you should make a post saying
this right
there
BTC-Mining: She
twists facts/improperly research
them
BTC-Mining: I'm also in
the group with Usagi. We're merely providing input and opinion but have no actual say in decisions which are left
to Nefario
BTC-Mining: Usagi was never declared head of a commission or appointed
to review and make decisions about asset inclusion.
noagendamarket: Someone should just make a less retarded version of MPEX with exactly
the same features lol
BTC-Mining: III.b. In spite of III.a. Nefario declared Usagi as
the head of
the ad-hoc commission
that was
to review GLBSE assets for inclusion in blue/white categories.
BTC-Mining: III.a. Starting at least as early as September 10
the assets controlled by Usagi (CPA, NYAN.x, BMF) were being scrutinized publicly on
this forum for gross negligence possibly amounting
to fraud on
the part of
the asset holder, in
the same manner and
to an extent equal or greater
to
that of I.a. above.
BTC-Mining: When
the shareholders decided by a motion
to keep Diablo-D3 as a manager. Also.
BTC-Mining: But about DMC, she states: I.d.
The accounts were later unblocked without any audit being performed, and without any material changes in
the alleged facts.
B0g4r7: Looks like I missed out on
today's drama, being away from my deskjob desk.
BTC-Mining: Okay, so for example, she start a scammer
tag
thread for nefario. Stating how it's been mismanaged.
That's okay until now. I'd agree
the situations have been mismanaged.
mircea_popescu: it's one of
the
things
that seem stupid before you get it and impossible
to live w/o after.
B0g4r7: hm, yea I never did figure out
the web-of-trust or whatever
that system is.
dub: yes, internet is 50% less retarded for
the moment
BTC-Mining: mircea_popescu, can you at least demand from your MPOE-PR
to get her facts straight? Although she has many valid claims/points, she keeps attacking everything with misquotes/altered facts which are easy
to point out. It's like a double edged sword.
dub: was
there some more info?
noagendamarket: best bet : get your local stock broker
to accept btc lol
noagendamarket: eventually any bitcoin site offering securities will run into exactly
the same issues glbse has
mircea_popescu: i must say, cryptostocks site is about 100
times better
than glbse ever was
gribble: Best bid: 12.73, Best ask: 12.83, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last
trade: 12.83, 24 hour volume: 40200, 24 hour low: 12.6, 24 hour high: 13.0899
dub: or are we not quite
there yet
dub: is it hunting nefario down and cutting his
tits off?
smickles: mircea_popescu: i bet I could run up your
tx fees by like .0001 or so :P
mircea_popescu: the one
thing i love about running mpex is how rarely i need
to pay
tx fees
smickles: *because
this needed one more asterisk
smickles: *far
to often
to be intentional
smickles: it seems
to me people argue both sides of an argument far
too often
smickles: wtf, giga went back up
to .004ish?
mircea_popescu: actually, virgins are in most
times and places more valuable
than well used whores. i wonder why.
mircea_popescu: they don't have
to be
traded
to have value,
they just need
to be wanted.
mircea_popescu: this "if bitcoins are hoarded
they're worthless" argument is utterly bs.
dub: Smoovious is
teh great conspiracy
theorist
smickles: did you have
the same suspision about glbse, icbit, or cbx?
smickles: ok, i am drunk,
that question just derpped me
smickles: Smoovious: didn't something like 500 btc just
trade
there?
copumpkin: smickles: make sure
the SEC sees
the whole
thing, as it contains crucial evidence for
the case
mircea_popescu: y people do not understand
the importance of paying me fees :(
mircea_popescu: -Another who ask 350$ for registration with more porn
than assets on it.
mircea_popescu: -A website
that make instant decisions without any warning (delisting, closing, whatever)
mircea_popescu: How am I supposed
to do
that?
There's no f*****g volume,
there's no buyer except at 0.000000001 BTC because of all
the shit. Why somebody whould buy an asset when you have
the choice between:
smickles: I'd point out
that I said
that statement in preparation for just
this situation
noagendamarket: The uS
tried sending a nuclear warship
to NZ
they
told
them
to gtfo