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femtotube: I guess all
the bond issuers are ecstatic right now. No exchange, no obligations
B0g4r7_: me
too. I had cold hard BTC in glbse, not securities.
femtotube: I miss my coin
those GLBSE assholes stole from me :(
Diablo-D3: shit goes wrong due
to outside forces, I get blamed for it by
the people who could have helped prevent it
femtotube: none of
them are worth any
trust or respect
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: not from lack of
trying.
Diablo-D3: femtotube: it means hes a
trusted community member
femtotube: Diablo-D3: and how is
that "owner" status any excuse?
Diablo-D3: I didnt used
to believe it, but I do now
femtotube: is everyone involved with BTC a fkn
thieve and a liar ?
Diablo-D3: femtotube: erm,
theymos is
the bitcointalk owner and a glbse shareholder
rdponticelli: Meanwhile, we keep relying on
tools half baked, "proudly" made in 4 days...
rdponticelli: The
thing is: making
things right needs some effort
rdponticelli: But it's frigthning
that
there's so many people unwilling
to learn anything
mircea_popescu: which is kinda why i'm willing
to help pretty much anyone
through it. i know once
they have it it's good forever.
Doffx: Ugg,
thats not why people are down on Mpex, its not gpg.
mircea_popescu: same
thing with some other guy, it's an hour
to set up
then i never hear from
them again
rdponticelli: Yeah, when you learn a couple of
thing, everything is easy
mircea_popescu: if you get
them
to actually
try it
they go uhhhh ok ?!
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli seriously now, mpex is shockingly easy
to use. people
thinking differently are just basing
themselves on prejudice
rdponticelli: If you prefer easy of use, you're
trading off security
rdponticelli: It's not just
that. It's about maintaining a safe environment
mircea_popescu: drekk o o sorry,
thought you meant about key compromise
PsychoticBoy: Your choice, I will provide gpg encrypted
text if you want
to
drekk: decrypting it is a different
thing of course
drekk: mircea_popescu, dunno what you mean. :D i was just
talking about
the possibility for a mitm
to
tell which of your mails are
the important ones, if you only encrypt
those
mircea_popescu: drekk
trojan for passphrase, rootkit for actual keyring with secret key
rdponticelli: I won't use a fund who's administrator uses windows and refuses
to use gpg, nothing personal...
drekk: mircea_popescu,
trojan/rootkit
to do what?
PsychoticBoy: I will
try mpex when its not
that expensive, 400$ is a aweful lot
B0g4r7_: Blind
trust may be OK for running MS Word, but not for security-sensitive
things involving lots of money.
B0g4r7_: When it comes
to cryptography
though, a
thorough understanding is required. Otherwise all a user can do is
trust blindly.
rdponticelli: Anyway, it's useless if you got a
trojan with a keylogger
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy well if you have kleo
then i really fail
to see your problem. you instal python and run pympex
B0g4r7_: "user friendly" == "user does not need
to understand how it works"
pigeons: you only need
to --encrypt --ascii --sign
Doffx: What I found hard about gpg is
the documentation is lacking on some of
the
things you need
to do.
B0g4r7_: Or
they'll do dumb
things and
their security will be compromised.
B0g4r7_: In order for it
to be effective,
the user needs
to have more
that just a basic understanding of how it works.
Doffx: Ahh, yeah windows makes
things more difficult
drekk: only partially encrypting mails kinda spoils it imho. you're making it easy for a possible attacker
to identify which mails are sensitive
B0g4r7_: It's hard
to make cryptographic
technology user-friendly.
mircea_popescu: poor people in africa. you're all welcome
to your own ghetto.
Doffx: Its pretty easy
to use
though, whats difficult about it?
mircea_popescu: problem is not
that gpg is not psychoticboy friendly. problem is yu're not gpg friendly
Doffx: Ok, ok, ill give you .45 for an acount
today.
B0g4r7_: Specifically I wanted
to buy into ASICMINER, and now I can't (easily).
B0g4r7_: Now all
that stuff is inaccessible.
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy you don't know how it feels like
to have
trades executed within
the second
drekk: guess
the reason for having a high fee is
to keep amateur
traders out. i actually appreciate
that
pigeons: anyway
there's some of
those usagi scamassets on mpext
mircea_popescu: Doffx i'll give you .3 of
that for your wife. if you don't have one get one we can
talk.
Doffx: Ill give you .50 btc for an account
today.
drekk: i'll never get
those complaints about webdesign,
tld, pr0n... it's obviously a service
that works for a lot of ppl
PsychoticBoy: a big fat gypsy wedding,
that ppl are strange, with
thir kitsch looks etc
NO_OOh: mircea_popescu: really? when did
that change?
pigeons: how many registrations
to afford a web designer?
NO_OOh: maybe if someone registered on your site and paid
the 20bitcoin you could afford a new domain
pigeons: yeah and you're a gypsy
too
mircea_popescu: has fuckall
to do with registering as a financial services provider.
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 dude,
the guy is just insane. all his "legit"
talk was about STARTING A COMPANY
pigeons: B0g4r7_: i hear you but let's face it
that isn't
the issue here
B0g4r7_: He/they ought
to have
told
them
to look elsewhere, and continued
to keep glbse in unregulated
territory.
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu,
the site. coming up next, mircea_popescu,
the musical.
BTCHero: We said, but mircea_popescu
the site looks so nice and user friendly
pigeons: don't worry, if you didn't listen
to him before, or even if you did, you'll get another several chances
to hear it
B0g4r7_: IMO, glbse made a mistake in
trying
to court
these so-called "legitimate businesses"
that wanted
to be listed.
BTCHero: we should have all listened
to
the great mircea_popescu
pigeons: the one you wear when you pretend
to be "the girl"