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gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG
to use
the rating system.
smickles: ;;rate nefario -1 seems
to have broken contracts and screwed over many people for his own ass
BTC-Mining: according
to
theymos, he kind of cut
the bridges
rdponticelli: Glad nobody
took my bid of 1 satoshi for glbse shares
Azelphur: I wonder if nefario is planning on posting an update
today
B0g4r7: dub: <nefario> I'm creating
the future of bitcoin! <-- Sad if true
smickles: mircea_popescu: do you
think
this will affect
the btcusd exchange rate?
dub: <nefario> I'm creating
the future of bitcoin!
B0g4r7: The address I sent my BTC
to
to deposit it into glbse.
BTC-Mining: erhm... people sometimes deposit from address
they don't control
B0g4r7: Since I already have
that.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally,
the last backup available is
the registry of record
smickles: BTC-Mining: i
think
the 'backup' rg has is
the hd of
the server
BTC-Mining: You need
the latest one, not a backup. Also, who will give a code
to each holder so
they can claim
the assets?
smickles: rg: how about
that backup of
the db
dub: [17:52] <rg> nefario is going
to sort everyhting out
Azelphur: what are
they going
to arrest us for?
Azelphur: the
thing I'm curious about, say we give
the nefario our info and he is snitching
B0g4r7: I have (well I guess had not) a non-trivial amount of BTC
there.
Azelphur: nothing I can't afford
to loose
smickles: Azelphur:
there were only a few hundred satoshi on glbse anyway
B0g4r7: Nefario, do
the right
thing and return our asets without dragging us into your mess.
Azelphur: smickles: I imagine if you get
the who owns what shares info off
them, we don't need GLBSE funds anyway
pigeons: not
the ip he has been using
Azelphur: but what are
they even going
to do
to
the investors?
Azelphur: yea, I mean I know
that from his side
Azelphur: smickles: what's
the point of him snitching exactly
though?
dub: I
turst him
to
turn his kids into serial killers
BTC-Mining: oh... barring some exceptions. I mean, bitcoiners
tend
to
trust MtGox
too.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining At
this rate, no single bitcoiner will be left
trusting anything. <<
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining don't shittalk. mpex was fine all along, and is fine
to
this day.
pigeons: matthewh3
talked
to him on
the cell earlier
today
mircea_popescu: Nefario: You are obviously unqualified
to be anywhere near a project of
the complexity of an exchange, even for play money (which I suspect BTC are, for most of you here, at least judging on behavior records).
B0g4r7: I
think he deserves
the cold shoulder or worse.
smickles: so, what's
this community
think of 'snitches', as nef is likely one
BTC-Mining: FSA might have put it's nose in
the case...
B0g4r7: Because he's flipped and is working for
those who pwned him, perhaps.
pigeons: there is one reason. not like it wasn't likely
this would happen.
B0g4r7: I do believe
that's a big fat Scammer
tag I see headed Nefario's way.
BTC-Mining: At
this rate, no single bitcoiner will be left
trusting anything.
BTC-Mining: Hey, plenty of madness over here in
the forum
pigeons: i
thought he was a bit of a clueless hack, but
this is harmful
copumpkin: but I'm a nice guy so I don't usually put it in
those
terms
copumpkin: I've maintained
that nefario is a bit of a clueless hack for months now
mircea_popescu: at
this point im guessing i will
take deadterra off my ignore
pigeons: yeah i liked
the unicorn
too
teek: what in
the actual fuck
mircea_popescu: i'd like
to have SOME competition. what i don't like is people
thinking glbse was competition
BTC-Mining: Mircea is not interested in what's being issued on GLBSE, except maybe a few
things...
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: as an MPOE shareholder, I demand
that you bring back
the unicorn
knotwork: Maybe instead of everyone sharing one fate it would be better
to put each asset-issuer on a separate server just for
their assets and no one else's?
B0g4r7: Well
that bet got moot fast. Oh well.
BTC-Mining: Well at least
theymos claim Nefario has completly cut relations with other GLBSE owners
BTC-Mining: Seems like
the bet is already won? I don't know.
midnightmagic: So what happens if glbse just arbitrarily steals everyone's assets? I mean who wins
the bet
then?
midnightmagic: For example, it completely leaves out all
the pre-existing assets
that users currently "own".
midnightmagic: smickles: No,
there are
too many possible
technicalities.
smickles: midnightmagic: will you place a bet on
that ?
B0g4r7: "For
this statement
to be false, on November 1 2012 at 12:00 AM UTC,
the gblse.com website must be online and accessible
to internet users, users must be able
to log in, and users must be able
to execute both buy and sell
trades on
the listed securities. At least 5 securities must be listed."
B0g4r7: GLBSE bet submitted. Now let's see how long it
takes BoB
to approve and post it.
pigeons: ok as long as -pr has no access
to
the site
pigeons: oh
that's cute, you call it your cto
BTC-Mining: or anything which would unexpectedly render you unable
to perform said actions.
B0g4r7: Specifically with regard
to jurisdiction and regulatory intervention, are you located in a place
that is less jackbooted
than
the UK?
BTC-Mining: Yeah, but suppose you have a heart attack RIGHT NOW and can't actually do
those actions, who will do
them. Who else has access
to MPEx?
B0g4r7: Tell us how MPOE is different from GLBSE such
that it is unlikely
to suffer
the same kind of problems.
mircea_popescu: (because of
the way mpoe works with nonvoting stock you can never sell > 50% of any comp)
pigeons: oh i
thought
that could help him value mpex
pigeons: the page was vandalized
though
there is a scary freak at
the
top
pigeons: threats are
taken serious by my internet lawyer. a few of you will find out just how serious i mean.
pigeons: if you are looking
to file suit against glbse you will not be eligble for repayment
pigeons: i
think in
the heat of
the moment, nefario made a move
to secure
the usd backing of
the coins when
they were not returned and has made
things much more difficult
mircea_popescu: i mean... it's just asking for
trouble. how do you delist ? how do you cover
the endgame ? it's irresponsible.
pigeons: i
think one of glbse's partners has decided
to make
things difficult for him and
the earliest maybe coins will begin
to move is october 12th
mircea_popescu: i
think actually it should be "illegal"
to have an exchange w/o gpg from now on.
mircea_popescu: but in
the absolute-worst-case scenario, glbse is never heard from again,
this will be a mess.
mircea_popescu: im sure he'd honor anything once
there's a list of shareholders and we can work out ownership
pigeons: i
think you'll have a much harder
time getting paid for your glbse GIGAs, although I believe he will honor
those
too
pigeons: BTC-Mining: i believe giga will pay mircea_popescu
to pay coupons on GIGA.ETF
mircea_popescu: i said
there's not going
to be any shareholders-pay upgrades