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mircea_popescu: well
that's
the problem. you haven't, but in your place i have.
BTC-Mining: Acknowledging he might be using his own money, and
that he just claimed he stole fund because he didn't
think Nefario had
the money for a lawyer.
mircea_popescu: you're comitting
the exact converse of
the error you protest it seems.
theymos saw something, did he ?
____Atlas_____: I am just finding it hard
to be empathic
towards someone who closed down a mutually owned company without clear consent
BTC-Mining: He later said "I assume he's spending user deposits. Maybe he's using his own money, but I don't
think he has enough
to cover lawyer fees. He said in
the meeting
that he wants BitcoinGlobal
to pay for
the lawyer."
BTC-Mining: There's a reason
the english language has words such as "could, might, guess, believe,
think, etc."
BTC-Mining: Well
the
thing is, by formulating it as a fact, one could believe
theymos actually saw
that funds were being moved away from
the reserve.
BTC-Mining: Not simply state X. It confuses people as having been witnessed by
the claimer.
mircea_popescu: you can write it any way you please, but unless it's "here's so and so and here's
the proof" it ain't a fact.
BTC-Mining: No... in my book you write
them as "I
think/believe/would guess
that X because Y"
mircea_popescu: something's not a fact by virtue of carrying a "fact"
tag given by
the author.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining
things presented as fact but w/o acompanying documentation should be read as opinions.
BTC-Mining: It should have been stated as such
that it was an opinion/guess and why
BTC-Mining: He hasn't been proven
to have stolen anything*
BTC-Mining: Yes, but he hasn't stolen anything...
the first claim by
theymos was stating it as a fact, when he was just speculating.
____Atlas_____: He is
technically already violating policy left and right
BTC-Mining: You don't start executing someone for murder,
than investigate if he was
the murdered.
mircea_popescu: "His name is Nefario. How could you people not see
this coming?"
this is so retarded.
BTC-Mining: That's exactly
the kind of
things I was
talking about when people state
their opinion/speculation as facts...
BTC-Mining: "I assume he's spending user deposits. Maybe he's using his own money, but I don't
think he has enough
to cover lawyer fees. He said in
the meeting
that he wants BitcoinGlobal
to pay for
the lawyer."
Gladamas: I
think some of
the people mad at you are just jealous at your logic
Gladamas: ah, well nice
to see you back :) you really do have some good viewpoints.
____Atlas_____: Gladamas: I left under
the condition I remained banned
Gladamas: Hey Atlas, you sent on LitecoinTalk
that you were leaving
the BTC forum,
then someone named "Atlas" joined
the forum. Was
that you?
mircea_popescu: ____Atlas_____ remind me what has
this
to do with btc assets
____Atlas_____: You see,
this person is not interested in a discussion rather a social battle of sorts.
midnightmagic: ____Atlas_____: In
that case, I'm going
to call shedanigans, and point and laugh.
____Atlas_____: I am not out
to prove mine but rather consider all possibilities.
____Atlas_____: midnightmagic: I am here
to have a discussion and a mixture of ideas.
midnightmagic: At
this point, since you are
the one
talking about needing
triad protection, it's
time for you
to give up some evidence. Pretend I said nothing, assume I withdraw all my comments. You make an assertion. Now back it up.
jcpham: shitbag are you
talking
to me
noagendamarket: wonder how much bitcoin has
to be before we can pay off politicians i some country
midnightmagic: yeaah.. Just because something pops into your head and you can't
think of anything else,
that doesn't make it
true, Atlas.
midnightmagic: Corruption is indeed rampant in China. But
the government doesn't like competition..
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic not really
true.
the russians never got anywhere against
their vor.
midnightmagic: Mobs
tend
to have
trouble operating in a
totalitarian regime where both
the government and
the people hate
them in equal measure, and
the death penalty
takes basically one annoyed judge somewhere
to point his finger and make half a
town disappear.
midnightmagic: That's an amazing ass you have, it sounds almost it can
talk..
____Atlas_____: If you are capable of making money, you have value. You just have
to use it
to your advantage.
smickles: mircea_popescu: well,
that day was my brother and sister's birthday. we had a party
mircea_popescu: this consumer culture. you
think you chose ? why'd you choose. you're
the cow.
mircea_popescu: ____Atlas_____
that means "if you don't make any money"
____Atlas_____: midnightmagic:
That's only if you bother
the politicians
midnightmagic: Yeah, right. China is more free
than UK? I guess, if you're willing
to risk
the wrath of
the oligarchs.
BTC-Mining: [01:03] <____Atlas_____> Apparently
this is
the very definition of hell.
BTC-Mining: [01:03] <____Atlas_____> Apparently Earth and humanity is one of
the lowest forms of sentient life in
the universe.
____Atlas_____: And how even
the lowest form of life deserves wasted effort when it comes
to crap on a wikipedia page.
____Atlas_____: Meanwhile,
the complete dumbass continues
to ruin
the page
gribble: Best bid: 12.674, Best ask: 12.71001, Bid-ask spread: 0.03601, Last
trade: 12.71001, 24 hour volume: 28057, 24 hour low: 12.51, 24 hour high: 12.89999
B0g4r7: I suppose it would be naive
to assume
that
there are not.
B0g4r7: Seemingly
there are
things above.
____Atlas_____: Apparently Earth and humanity is one of
the lowest forms of sentient life in
the universe.
____Atlas_____: B0g4r7: Several hypnotherapists will confirm
that's how most innovation happens.
smickles: damn, I just spent 5 min. logging into liberty reserve, only
to find
that I left nothing
there
BTC-Mining: Eh,
there's all sorts of levels of symptoms for such
things. Sometimes you only get a few if it's mild.
B0g4r7: He's get a "flash from beyond", and knew
that he had
to bring it into being in
the physical world.
____Atlas_____: BTC-Mining: Meh,
there are usually more symptoms
than
this.
B0g4r7: I saw a doc on
Tesla, and it said
that's where a lot of his ideas came from.
B0g4r7: It had
that kind of a
thing, communication in a dream.
B0g4r7: Ever watch
the first Final Fantasy movie,
The Spirits Within?
____Atlas_____: Anecdotal evidence shows it happens
to a lot of people.
____Atlas_____: I am pretty confident my sanity is in
tact
though.
These probably are real entities
trying
to contact me.