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femtotube: i rather not spend my
time arguing with someone as clueless as you , atlas.
____Atlas_____: In
this case,
theymos is free
to do whatever
the fuck he wants with his GLBSE stock.
mircea_popescu: the exchange whereby joe buys a sack in which may be some potatoes in exchange for an enveolpe wherein may be some money has nothing
to do with free markets.
____Atlas_____: Delusion is usually characterized with a false sense of reality; not accepting events as
they come.
femtotube: the entire fkn forum is run by a scumbag, who wanted
to dump his shares on some poor idiot with coin
mircea_popescu: the entire
thing could end up a morass of double claims
Luceo: GLBSE is apparently going
to be giving everyone enough information
to continue
their securities
____Atlas_____: BTC-Mining:
That
takes some labor and
time for everyone
BTC-Mining: It would be a bit harder, but I don't see why it couldn't be
traded OTC style with a room he on freenode like
the #bitcoin-otc
BTC-Mining: What's
the problem femtotube, other
than GLBSE is closing down?
BTC-Mining: and in
the end, you have lost
the only
thing you were sure of, which is your current existence as a human.
BTC-Mining: You could ponder about it endlessly making as many scenarios you want, but never even come close
to
the reality of
things.
BTC-Mining: It's not something we can answer in any case. Kind of hard
to be concerned about it when it could be anything or nothing.
BTC-Mining: Yes... we might just as well be bored entities among nothingness who needed something
to do, so we created a universe as a playground in which we would not remember having ever lived outside of it.
____Atlas_____: but
that's not clear as my body and perception remain stable
____Atlas_____: Assuming
there is an origin of
this universe, of whatever means, it could be deducted we are of
that origin, we are or were a part of
that origin.
BTC-Mining: Eh, well I'm not very concerned about if
there's anything after death and if
that would possibly interact directly with
the observable universe.
BTC-Mining: eh, I'm not sure how
that would work...
BTC-Mining: Well, if you're deterministic and believe every choice you make were guaranteed by
the current state and movement of matter and energy in
the universe... You could say no one actually make decision, what
they do is simply what every atom in
they body would make
them do.
____Atlas_____: If
that is
the case, I happily accept
that limitation.
____Atlas_____: There are many options
that we do not exercise immediately.
reeses: it’s not an option if you refuse
to
take it
reeses: ____Atlas_____: I hear you like
to
try
to kill your failure by killing your body
reeses: if I had a soul, it would
thank you
reeses: god just shut up you shallow,
twee, fool
____Atlas_____: All beings so far have created something beyond
themselves; and do you want
to be
the ebb of
this great flood and even go back
to
the beasts rather
than overcome man? What is
the ape
to man? A laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. And man shall be just
that for
the overman: a laughingstock or a painful embarrassment...
____Atlas_____: I
teach you
the overman. Man is something
that shall be overcome. What have you done
to overcome him?
markac: mircea_popescu: "der schiefe reeses der Frauen nicht gerade Schwanz war jemals gemacht" (en
to de,
translate.google.com)
mircea_popescu: .tr :en :de of
the crooked reeses of women no straight cock was ever made
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Every conversation he had was apparently full of, "But what do you MEAN?" At least according
to
this book I read called "Wittgenstein's Poker"
____Atlas_____: As a absurdist-nihilist, it's hard for me
to get into
these kinds of arguments.
BTC-Mining: I suppose according
to stereotypes,
that makes perfect sense...
midnightmagic: Wittgenstein
thought
that most of what people say
to one another is never fully understood.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you probably spend a lot of
time in an academic environment.
BTC-Mining: When I'm
talking
to people in person, I'm used
to people being much clearer and honest about what is
their opinion and what
they claim as facts.
BTC-Mining: I'm simply stating I'm quite astonished at
the sheer amount of hearsay/opinion/etc. presented as facts instead of for what it is...
mircea_popescu: which is why we don't
take forum shit *that* seriously.
to keep our sanity.
BTC-Mining: Yes, always going
to be some confusion.
BTC-Mining: or at least
that's what I was stating until you interupted me
to say
that anything presented as a fact is an opinion.
mircea_popescu: yeah. moreover, about how
there's little choice in
the matter : you're always going
to create confusion. it's part of communication.
BTC-Mining: Well
the whole argument was about how how presenting an opinion/guess as a fact is bad if you didn't directly witness
the fact, as it creates confusion for
the listener.
mircea_popescu: well
theymos is also an idiot. i was just using
this as a convenient example.
BTC-Mining: But
theymos still stated like it was set in stone "He is also illegally using user deposits
to pay for his lawyer."
BTC-Mining: But
theymos, on
the other hand, apparently didn't saw anything.
BTC-Mining: Okay. So in your example it's fine
then.
BTC-Mining: You can state
the first as a fact, and
the second as a proposition
mircea_popescu: i never claimed i saw
the guy murder someone. i just claimed i saw a murder.
BTC-Mining: But you saw a body being carried out. As such you cannot claim
that you saw
the person carrying said body murdered someone. You can only guess or propose said person as
the probable murderer.
mircea_popescu: there's never going
to be a workable version were we instantly understand what
the other means just by reading
the words
mircea_popescu: the reason natural languages are natural is
that you always have
to begin communication by negotiating
terms.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining for
the same reason you decide you saw a screen i decide i saw a murder.
BTC-Mining: Yes. But
that you decide
to claim what you saw or not as a body, you still can't say you witnessed a murder.
____Atlas_____: I
try
to look at
the relevance of right and wrong in
this case
mircea_popescu: fact of
the matter is, knowledge is always assailable from a purely nominalist perspective.
BTC-Mining: Eh... you'd want a distance at which I'd claim or not claim
to have seen something?
BTC-Mining: Because I can see it up close and I know it
to be a screen.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining when you look at your computer do you see something
that seems like a screen
FabianB_: in any case and whatever happend, nef should've known
there's lots of negative gossip in
the community if
there are no clear statements from him, lol
BTC-Mining: Okay... so assuming you didn't see what you
think you saw and
there was no body, you'd go around claiming a murder?