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pigeons: i worry from matthewh3's report that nefario may feel he needs those coins to pay a lawyer for survival may thus feel justified if he "can't" return them.
boonies4u-Andro: sounds like those who don't want trouble can't sell their shares if they wanted to
boonies4u-Andro: "Matthewh3 - "All users coins on the GLBSE is safe and untouched. Nafario wants to return them as soon as possible as they are a legal liability to him. He also said he will soon have a way for asset issuers to pay dividends but not trade shares. ""
pigeons: Did theymos send the coins nefario claims to be waiting on?
pigeons: Evolvex works for the SEC and wants one link to visit
femtotube: this SEC bull shit is starting to sound more stupid by the minute.
rg: i guess the funniest part about all this
rg: without pirate the SEC still wouldnt know what bitcoin is
boonies4u-Andro: pigeons: i knew they were interested, I just didn't expect them to knock before coming in
rg: smickles breaths oxygen and needs food to live.
rg: guruvan is now claiming that that's releasing customer info
rg: so much drama on the forum still
Chaang-Noi: yeah they are interested
pigeons: I guess I had to literally beg you to believe that Yes The SEC is Interested IN GLBSE.
pigeons: look that guy up with google, call his office, ask if he sent the email about NY-8834 and what it's about
pigeons: one sec i'll show it to you
boonies4u-Andro: so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s)?
boonies4u-Andro: so the emails contained the information necessary to confirm that they sent you the email(s)
pigeons: are you saiying that me and practically all the people i trust here are lying? or at which point in this step did they fools us? cause i'll give you another way it was verified at that point
pigeons: the ysaid they did
pigeons: we called them, using the phone number on the particular investigators name on the website gave the reference nu,ber on the email and asked if they sent it
boonies4u-Andro: I doubt the sec, or anyone claiming to be the sec sent you, nefario, or goat emails
pigeons: fuck, you really don't believe the sec sent otc members an email saying there is a private investigation into bitcoin securities, and that most of us didn't research to a comfortable degree wether or not it was legit?
pigeons: boonies4u-Andro: the sec proved to me they were the sec
boonies4u-Andro: not, someone on an anonymous account claiming to be sec
boonies4u-Andro: pigeons: the sec contacting nefario, while proving that they are sec
pigeons: femtotube: i agree. but also i wonder if they were curious how the alleged "victims" got involved
femtotube: not that stupid for sure :)
femtotube: pigeons: all they had to do was read the forum or use the Make a account. How stupid are the agents? LOL
boonies4u-Andro: might explain why they let him keep operating
Chaang-Noi: he then saw a lawyer and saw the light i guess...
Chaang-Noi: i have pretty solid info on that, but that was a while ago and he kept operating
Chaang-Noi: yes the sec did contact nefario
pigeons: don't know if the sec contacted nefario, but the people who talked to the sec say the sec specifically was asking about glbse, "how you got your glbse account" and ppt funds on glbse
Chaang-Noi: if the sec came down on him, no way would they let him still operate
Chaang-Noi: incase the sec or what not comes in...
Chaang-Noi: and wants to protect him self as far as i can gather...
Chaang-Noi: he is now scared he was breaking the law...
femtotube: is that really true that there was so SEC etc agents poking at nefario? It was all just bullshit and excuse
boonies4u-Andro: well, I suppose having multiple proxy accounts to fool issuers would work
boonies4u-Andro: then it might be difficult to determine who he is among the shareholders
boonies4u-Andro: unless Nefario is only going to be submitting addresses tied to number of bonds held
boonies4u-Andro: regarding what goat was saying, I don't think issuers should let Nefario get any unclaimed bonds
pigeons: probably as good as you can reasonably hope for in this situation
smickles: Would the data being signed by that keyid be sufficient verrification?
smickles: also, fiduciary responcibility would require me to verify the lists somehow
smickles: well, if i get a list of shareholders and associated amounts for s2cm and mpoe.etf, then i'll honor them
boonies4u-Andro: well, my guess is that asset holders won't honor bonds Nefario holds
Chaang-Noi: yeah me too
smickles: Chaang-Noi: we'll see. i suppose i'm waiting to be contacted directly, or see something on glbse proper
Chaang-Noi: thats not a direct quote but something like that
Chaang-Noi: its his "get out of jail free card if people are using glbse to support terrorist and money laundering"
Chaang-Noi: i wonder how many BTC and assets nefario will get to claim due to people not handing over AML stuff, or him just saying its not good enough...
smickles: Chaang-Noi: is it going to be docs like that?
kakobrekla: and the message was?
Chaang-Noi: so are you going to give your AML docs to Nefario ?
Chaang-Noi: iv been traveling
smickles: Chaang-Noi: i dunno, but it seems like a good time to leave the parting message idid
Chaang-Noi: wonder what is going on there...
Chaang-Noi: i find it kinda odd coldhardmetal left #glbse but is in the other #bitcoin chans...
smickles: holy shit, the gov't representatives in romainia are elected by plurality, and they use a civil law based legal system?
FabianB: or is that panic sell?
boonies4u-Andro: I always liked that in the back of my head, if something bad happens and they lose confidence in the fund, I could buy back bonds
mircea_popescu: so i've rebought today like i dunno, half my float ?
pigeons: there is a site you can see the management of the gpus and fpgas and what pools they are at and temps and hashes, but hehehe yes down atm
mircea_popescu: boonies4u-Andro assets-otc thing looks like a retarded mpex to me.
boonies4u-Andro: I think they're shorting it :P
boonies4u-Andro: I don't think they're copying it
mircea_popescu: feel free to dump into reddit or w/e
mircea_popescu: anyway, about to take the girls to town! however before i go : http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/
pigeons: well if you email them they will keep you up to date on the mining equipment and give you whatever info you ask
mircea_popescu: smickles whoa. was a 2mn ish one before, too
mircea_popescu: i thought ppl didn't like mpex. now copying it ?
mircea_popescu: that assets-otc thing is funnay
boonies4u-Andro: my guess is that they all represent some function of the "The Rock Trading Company"
mircea_popescu: seems to me like a ponzibond and a miningthing
boonies4u-Andro: though, i'm not seeing any description as to what these bonds represent XD
mircea_popescu: da fuck is that lol
smickles: I honestly thought glbse had the sense to have an accountant
boonies4u-Andro: of course it is due to low volume
boonies4u-Andro: I was just pointing out the crazy spread
kakobrekla: wow dafuq is this
pigeons: really? laugh at someone because they have temp low volume resulting in a big spread? like your exchange is better?
pigeons: yeah that's the bitcointalk forum db
smickles: !!!, woah what? theymos said, "4-5. The database backups can be decrypted by me, justmoon, Gavin, Sirius, and Satoshi. The encrypted backups are distributed among many people." Satoshi!?
pigeons: yes before it was traded in lindens as all their other stuff, then it moved to bitcoins after linden temp closed their account because someone used stolen lindens to buy bitcoins from them on their exchange
boonies4u-Andro: :Company Prospectus The Rock Mining Industries Total outstanding Shares 400000 100% Bitcoin Production The First Company traded in Bitcoin only!:
pigeons: i've known him since before there was a bitcoin
kakobrekla: but i know a guy that knows him
pigeons: no they don't irc
boonies4u-Andro: no one is there
gribble: Best bid: 11.93, Best ask: 11.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 11.97, 24 hour volume: 62240, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.75999
assbot: !ticker <ticker> (desc: returns current MPEX ticker values)
gribble: Best bid: 11.90004, Best ask: 11.9699, Bid-ask spread: 0.06986, Last trade: 11.90004, 24 hour volume: 62374, 24 hour low: 11.702, 24 hour high: 12.78
DeaDTerra: I personally have 500+ BTC on there
DeaDTerra: Yea that has to be higher then 1-2k
DeaDTerra: hahah, I thought so
DeaDTerra: and I thought you were ignoring me ^^
mircea_popescu: theymos placed the glbse btc at 4-8k
smickles: not that I know of