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Ukto: which is prolly worth
the most of
the
two
Ukto: fuck
the btc, in exchange for
their assets
Ukto: i
think most ppl would agree
to say fuck
their holdings, in exchange for
tehir btc
Doffx: Yeah, I only have .09 btc in
the account.
Ukto: not just sitting in
their accounts
Ukto: most ppl have most of
their money invested in
the shares
Doffx: Yeah, it would certainly help if he opened
that up.
Ukto: i only suggest
the asset as a partial solution
Ukto: agreed.
thats his own issue
to deal with
Doffx: The assets are just a note of
transaction really,
the btc being held up is unacceptable.
Doffx: Its not his BTC
to hold on
to.
Ukto: at least ppl can claim
their assets
Doffx: However I'm sure
the reason he doesn’t do
that is because people would also expect
to get
their btc as well in
the account.
Doffx: I like
the idea of just opening
the damn site and letting use send our assets
to
the asset creator with an email or something.
Ukto: its always all about Point of View. someone can do
things for all
the rights reaons
to
them, but
to everyone else, it can be
the worst actions for
the worst reasons. such is mankind
rdponticelli: He's not "trying"
to scam people, he's ACTUALLY scamming people, been
that his willing or not
Ukto: i honestly dont
think he's "trying"
to scam ppl, i
think he's just making some bad decisions
Ukto: i
think he realised his delima with
this, and
thats why he put a hold on accepting id's
Ukto: DeaDTerra: did he mention why he wants aml now? after saying it would not be needed a few weeks ago? and waht he will do with
the unclaimed assets/btc held?
Chaang-Noi: anyway i wish you
the best of luck but sadly i have
to sleep now.
Ukto: you need
to be identified
Chaang-Noi: ukto i keep
talking
to you in pm and you dont respond
Chaang-Noi: anyone
trusting nefario
the scammer is foolish
Ukto: at
this point,
the issuers and asset holders have no choice but
to
trust at least
the issuers, or get out
Chaang-Noi: even if it was stolen in
the email or hacked or sold...
Chaang-Noi: well... read what joel says about it, anyone with a valid code can just call
the aset issuer a scammer
Ukto: and i dont
think u wanna do
that
Ukto: thats
the ONLY way
that could work
Ukto: and ask you
to MAKE new code
Ukto: they need
to contact you
Chaang-Noi: people have been
trading
tygrr codes already
Ukto: it would allow
the importation of
the assets
Ukto: while
the code system wont allow ppl
to
trade offline
Ukto: he is witholding
things unless ppl give him all sorta id's
Chaang-Noi: joelcatz or whatever his name is has covered
this about 10
times on
the forum very well.
Ukto: he needs
to just reenable
the site, let ppl 'transfer shares' w/o penalty and a note
to distinguish
themselves
to
the issuers
Ukto: With all
this, and his paranoia, ppl knowing his name, face, etc, I am surprised he's
trying
to piss ppl off
Ukto: mostly for
the ppl who dont ID within X
Ukto: what stops nefario from using ppl 'codes' and anon-claiming
to be a share holder
to an issuer
Ukto: "well, i have identified 5% of my shares ownerships. guess I go with
that" ?
Ukto: how are
the issuers supposed
to continue at all
Ukto: for
the 90% who dont give ID, etc.. how are
the asset issures supposed
to 'continue
their relationship'
Ukto: though
to be honest
teek: So during all
this usagi flew
the coop eh
DeaDTerra: We had a good laugh about all
the paranoid people on
the forums :P
DeaDTerra: I just finished off a
talk with James :)
mircea_popescu: this is unfair. how's
the guy
to find a hot chick now ?
EskimoBob: "I would consider meeting
this criteria if nefario were
to provide me with a HD photo of his passport, drivers licence, 2 utility bills and a picture of him holding a note saying "you must be fucking joking" and a hot chick doing "bunny ears" on him." - LOL :)
mircea_popescu: they depended on how much "salary" he could leach off
the partners
mircea_popescu: his personal finances aren't much related
to
the results of glbse
mircea_popescu: course, also had a huge debtload
they were paying off.
jcpham: you wouldn't ever have
to beg for 200$
jcpham: you know if someone were
to partner with me with a decent idea
Ukto: his internet was via
tethered cell phone
Ukto: keep in mind, glbse didnt profit
that much off of
trades guys
Ukto: though, its funny, in
that video, he mentioned he needed $200 REALLY badly.
Ukto: i am partially leaning
towards epic stupidity coupled with second hand scamming
EskimoBob: so, friends from Ukraine can drill holes
to his kneecaps for almost nothing (compared
to what he stole)
Ukto: I am honestly surprised he would pull
this, after going
to
that bitcoin london conference
Ukto: and claim divs from
that?
Ukto: at some point it gets shut off and what.. he just gets
to keep
the remaining everything? anony contacts issuers "heres my shares"
Ukto: no, I ment
to accept account claims
Ukto: sure he wont accept
them for years
Ukto: he doesnt say what happens
to
the assets and funds of
those who dont submit docs
Ukto: lets be honest its one of wo possibilities, A. either further scammation, and attempt
to conceal embezzled funds. B. Epic stupidity. At
this point, I put neither past him.
Ukto: I would be surprised if
ti was
that high
mircea_popescu: i doubt he didn;'t know
this. it's just scam furtherance is all.
Ukto: JWU_42: his plan worked for me. I checked my records, I had left 2btc
there + whatever divs my 30 shares of JAH produced since may.
mircea_popescu: Ukto it's finished,
they have an update, "can't process" anymore.
Azelphur: Ukto:
the owner of bitinstant
tried and got 413 errors
Ukto: so, anyone dareing enough
to send nef. docs yet?
JWU_42: I sent James a note asking why he needs my dox when he has
them already (I verified before)
mircea_popescu: mixed with a good scraping off
the bottom of
the barrel.
mircea_popescu: people in bitcoin.
they're
the intellectual cream of
the crop
mircea_popescu: "The person
that controls
this address should be someone honorable
that everyone
trusts. And maybe he should be anonymous because
the intend of
this bounty maybe isnt fully legal."
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: privateers were often hired by
the government
mircea_popescu: therefore we consider we have been served a restraining order by
the algerian president and will not be processing anything
mircea_popescu: pigeons :
today when we were at
the mcdonalds
the waitress looked at us a certain way and on
the napkins was certain scribbled something from
the prevbious patron who was
this suspicious guy
pigeons: ok
then, sorry, we have been served a restraining order and are unable
to process
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli privateers
they're not,
they go running
to
the govt way
too often and in ridiculous ways
rdponticelli: Anyway, as
they deserve some fucking respect,
they're not corsairs,
they're all just privateers
pigeons: sorry we accidentaly
the database and are unable
to process
mircea_popescu: Update:we are currently unable
to process account closures, and will inform our users when
this service resumes.
B0g4r7: I
think
that's more your specialty.