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Doffx: Ok
this made me laugh
jurov: i learn new
things every day </sarcasm>
jurov: or
they had seen glbse shareholder meeting minutes
Ukto: (hell, if i coudl do a piratebay, goto jail for 1 month, and
then its good
to go.
that would be epic(
Ukto: was
told one guy only had
to do some 1month in jail, cause of
the court
time, etc
Ukto: was another guy jailed, and
then released?
Ukto: btw DeaDTerra, mebbe you can
tell me. somoene
told me
the pirate bay owner was 'released' from jail, and its good
to go now. but others
told me
that he 'escaped'? wtf?
Ukto: and leave
the site up, and not re-visit
the legality of it *cough(piratebay)cough*
Ukto: other countries will determine it is illegal, and
then demand it stopped
Ukto: they determine
that its illegal, and
then youg et fucked, w/o a chacne
to end it
Ukto: and unfortnately depending on
the govt you get fucked by gray
Ukto: i agree 100% with
that
knotwork: if you ask a lowyer if running a web based business at all is illegal
they might well advise
that if you have
to ask,
then maybe it is, and probe as
to what exactly about what you plan
to do is something you
think might be illegal and why
Ukto: doesnt have
to be "you are seriously at risk"
Ukto: so a lawyer saying "you are at risk" woudl be enough
to cause
this
Ukto: DeaDTerra: if you do know him
that well, you also know he's super paranoid
gp5st: smickles: :-p
thanks for
the encouragment:)
smickles: gp5st: well, on a 1 year
time frame, i should hope you get 5%. but anything better
than a 10% loss is good
Ukto: if you ask a lawyer "is using bitcoins online illegal"
they will advise you aginst it, and
that it may be illegal, and land you in jail
Ukto: DeaDTerra: no lawyer would
tell you
that a bitcoin X is illegal.
they woudl advise aginst it, and
tell you
that your asking for
trouble.
knotwork: it would have been slaugtered on GLBSE
though as everything just went into free-fall forever unto worthlessness ;)
Ukto: or life
threatening situations?
Doffx: If hes not
then where
the hell is he?
Ukto: sore ppl who have 10,000$ invested, who dont
trust him with
their id's and want
to sue him, or open govt fraud investigations on him, is not putting him in legal hot water?
Doffx: Do you know
that for sure?
knotwork: it also would not "make" money so its purpose would be its who you give your investment budget
to, it spends
that budget only if doing so results in it got a lower average price for what it bought
Ukto: so if
they bring ou phone records, you would deny
their existance?
Doffx: If hes in legal hot water hes looking at saving himself first,
this was my point from before.
Ukto: would you not
testify in court
taht you
talked
to him?
Doffx: He doesn’t give a flying fuck about
the btc community right now I'm sure
Doffx: How is he backed in
to a corner?
Ukto: his lawyer should have
told him
that
Ukto: and be less of a
target
Ukto: hiding, and staying quite wont help him get less
threats
Ukto: or it will make
things worse
Ukto: thats
te bottom line
Ukto: DeaDTerra: death
threats or not, he needs
to be more open and communative
knotwork: so it would get
to buy little bits at a
time as price falls
knotwork: but
then could maybe be improved by buyung only with part of its spending-money
knotwork: obviously not a really active strategy and likely
to buy
too soon when price falls so maybe not very good
knotwork: gp5st an interesting strategy I would like
to have bot
try would be keep an average price a given
thing has cost so far per unit for what it has of it so far, and buy any it can afford
that are cheaper
Ukto: the problem with
that, is he didnt give anything
to work with
Ukto: i
think its great
that he
talked
to you
smickles: gp5st: bitcoin's marked is small, so look at analisys of penny stocks in
the academic papers, good stuff
Ukto: as i have
tried
to help in
the past
Ukto: i went
to email nefario
to ask if I could help
smickles: gp5st:
then I started coming up with my own ideas based on
theose and observed
the market closly for some
time
gp5st: smickles: yeah, my next step was
the libary
Ukto: then he
tells ppl
to go
trhough near impossible hoops
Ukto: the problem is,
the website goes offline
Ukto: DeaDTerra: can you blame
teh community for
treating someone who is acting like a sscammer, as a scammer?
gp5st: smickles: where did you find various strategies
to implement?
Doffx: No one knows what
the hell is going on.
Doffx: Its always
the lack of information I hate.
Ukto: he does have limited internet, i agree with
that
smickles: gp5st: because java ate memory like nothing else, and
the mechanize library in python made
things a lot easier, i
think ruby has mechanize
too
gp5st: smickles: i
thought it would be a fun exercise and an opportunity
to learn more about
trading in general
Doffx: Maybe I used
the wrong words.
Ukto: he should have
throught it
through alot more
thouughly
then just pulling
the plug
gp5st: smickles: how come
the python bot worked better?
Ukto: is
that he wont
talk
to people
Ukto: thats
the worst part
smickles: gp5st: well, actually i wrote one in java and
the other in python, python worked out better
Ukto: amd why wont he just come
talk
to people
Ukto: DeaDTerra: but what about
those who cant or dont want
to provide
their id's?
Doffx: My point was more, everyone here would most likely save
their own ass first.
gp5st: smickles:
there are a bunch out
there, I kind of wanted
to do it as an exercise. I was
thinking ruby
to start
Doffx: I wonder how many people here would not
tried
to save
their own ass first haha.
gp5st: anyone here interested in helping write a
trading bot? I have a vague idea of financial strategies and am a decent programmer, so I would mainly be looking for someone
to advise on financial strategy. Or be able
to point me
to more information?
gribble: You rated user nefario on Fri Oct 5 17:57:26 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied
these additional notes: seems
to have broken contracts and screwed over many people for his own ass.
rdponticelli: In a couple of days more, he's getting
the -10 if he doesn't show good faith
smickles: Ukto: still chatting about what happened 'yesterday' or is
this something new?
Ukto: and
the longer he
takes,
the longer and stronger
the
tag will get, regardless of his righting
things
rdponticelli: At
this point we all should be supposing he's an evil scammer
gribble: Best bid: 11.97002, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last
trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 29194, 24 hour low: 11.711, 24 hour high: 12.15
Ukto: he has
to bite
the bullet and not require id
rdponticelli: He can open bank accounts,
traverse borders, and who know how many other
things
rdponticelli: He can open
thousands of glbses on behalf of every sucker who send his id
to him
Ukto: to send
them all
to jail
Ukto: and
the govt doesnt want 1,000's of ppl id's
Ukto: that would not require him
to
take ppls id's
Ukto: if it was govt intervention,
the site would just go down
Doffx: He got himself in some sort of
trouble now
that apparent, and if
there is any government involvement we know how much worse
they make it.
Ukto: if he is having an internal battle over legalities of giving ppl
their stuff w/o id,
thats a problem he has
to bite
the bullet on, and move forward doing, because chose
to not require id in
the first place
Doffx: I doubt
that, he could have done
that long ago.
Ukto: he needs
to consider carefully what
that means
Ukto: unless his intentions are actually
to scam ppl
Ukto: there was either no forethought, or not enough when he did
this
Ukto: and might as well just shutdown
the server
Ukto: and he is
therefore contridicting himself
Ukto: then
the issuer cannot just move on