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BTC-Mining: 2823.6BTC total revenue from trading fees
BTC-Mining: Sounds awfully wrong since GIGAMINING alone sold 40k bonds at 1 BTC or more and had like twice that volume.
BTC-Mining: [01:17] <mircea_popescu> 35911.75164BTC total volume
mircea_popescu: so glbse traded 36k btc in 6 months.
mircea_popescu: 35911.75164BTC total volume
mircea_popescu: 6006474 total contract volume
mircea_popescu: 66519 total trades
mircea_popescu: From 4/2/2012 to 10/4/2012:
da2ce7: New Version of Moneychanger and ot prompt for windows: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77301.80 Please help test and report any issues.
smickles: it said "Accepted c5b1c47c.155918dc" and for a moment, my heart raced as i thought i hit a block
smickles: lol, for the fun of it, i fired up cgminer and pointed it at my client,
Ukto: i somehow dont think I was :P
Ukto: i havent logged in since my account was emptied from the "hack" in may
Ukto: still didnt enable password recovery though :/
smickles: not toomany hours ago
Ukto: so did nefario open things up ?
dub: gak, I want to shoot thos imgur commenters more that I want to shoot everyone on btctalk
Diablo-D3: I MUST BE TAKING OVER WORLD!
Diablo-D3: oh fuck comments already go straight to south park
Diablo-D3: just so I can make it talk
smickles: mircea_popescu: is that the one that is similar to wherewolf?
mircea_popescu: anyone ever played that ?
mircea_popescu: Chaos - Battle of the Wizards
Diablo-D3: not sure if they're just inept or they're in the bank's pocket
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 prolly a pretty penny to be made from sueing then
Diablo-D3: they claim "to prevent fraud", but the only fraud going on is their actions since they already signed the papers
Diablo-D3: banks maliciously reverse loans within a week after they credit check you a second time
[\\\]: That's what the AMEX is for
[\\\]: but if it drops to $2, I'm gonna buy 50k btc
gribble: Best bid: 12.00104, Best ask: 12.05, Bid-ask spread: 0.04896, Last trade: 12.05, 24 hour volume: 27195, 24 hour low: 11.8029, 24 hour high: 12.19
smickles: rdponticelli: if i need to raise funds, you'll be the first one i make an offer to, m'kay?
rdponticelli: You're supposed to raise a ton of money and run away
smickles: i sold some btc earlier to pay licensing and registration fees
smickles: from rags to riches :D
smickles: and this is where my accounting company will start
smickles: < dub> pirate pays out tomorrow, smickles pays out tomorrow.... coincidence? <<< lolwut?
BTC-Mining: It was due to GLBSE being quite spread up
bitcoinbear: I refused to bid out more than 4 significant digits
mircea_popescu: with those 2 second page loads...
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller why'd they compete ?
thestringpuller: How will coinlab compete against the asic rush?
thestringpuller: Like if you won the lottery, then put it all on double 0 at the casino and won again. But then again I guess it's all "casinoing"
thestringpuller: I don't know if you've ever seen the Chappelle Show, but there was an episode where this guy came into a lot of money, played a dice game, and won, so he had tons of money.
mircea_popescu: buying their shares is entirely a diff game.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller playing satoshidice isn't investing tho.
BTC-Mining: I'd buy them for 0.0001 BTC each...
thestringpuller: tough times
bitcoinbear: anybody want to buy 10 BDK.BND shares at the low price of 0.08?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller actually these days casinos are doing very poorly.
thestringpuller: Wouldn't running a casino contribute to the economy?
thestringpuller: Don't casinos make a lot of money mircea_popescu? Like Las Vegas for instance, the Bellagio just rakes in money.
BTC-Mining: mircea, that's exactly the point, it's not casino odds if a mining asset pays for x each week but the randomness makes it go 50% under the market rate per mhash then a few days later 50% over market rate.
bitcoinbear: I wish he would move faster so we could just be done with the whole thing
thestringpuller: Even though the joke is on the issuers...
thestringpuller: I feel we get the last laugh somehow.
thestringpuller: Who is now scared of going to jail.
mircea_popescu: thinking going to the casino = participating in the economy is damaging.
bitcoinbear: like nefario said, it was meant to be a toy
mircea_popescu: no dispute you can make mone yat the casino
mircea_popescu: the continuing pretense that it did however, was very harmful for everyone.
mircea_popescu: had nothing to do with btc finance, or finance at all.
bitcoinbear: but you could make money off the randomness
mircea_popescu: so not for a second do i consider that "market" in any way related to any economics.
mircea_popescu: one of the precious few solvent assets there.
mircea_popescu: the bid was .3 the ask 1.5 or so.
mircea_popescu: actually, take mpoe.etf. a DAY before it being unwound (at like 1.2x)
BTC-Mining: when the bid-ask spread is 10% - 80% and the trading fee is 0.5% but only for the one selling/buying into orders...
bitcoinbear: and on some assets the spread was 50%
thestringpuller: BTC-Mining isn't that how market makers make their money, via the bid-ask spread?
BTC-Mining: Most shares sold and weren't trading much afterward
thestringpuller: for something that didn't have a lot of market depth, GLBSE had a sizable volume of outstanding shares.
BTC-Mining: It's not casinoing if the asset has a base value through profit sharing. The wild price fluctuations just make it much easier to buy below market value and resell it far above market value.
bitcoinbear: him trading helps decrease the spread (somewhat), making the market more stable
mircea_popescu: otherwise, im sure plenty of people made money bilking the idiots who thought they're investors.
mircea_popescu: right. from a macro perspective the thing was harmful.
thestringpuller: tell that to the kids from MIT who counted cards
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't make casinoing an economic activity.
mircea_popescu: yeah. if you go to the casino and make a lot of money your wallet might not complain
thestringpuller: only gigamining had a solid trade trend
BTC-Mining: My wallet didn't find it to be a problem at all.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining that'd be part of the problem, really.
BTC-Mining: Made thousands
thestringpuller: that's cause people don't know how to trade.
BTC-Mining: I was getting almost pirate rates without the pirate stocks.
BTC-Mining: Hey... GLBSE was the best trading platform (not for investing, for making trades)
mircea_popescu: course, sucks for all the people who wouldn't listen / knew better / whatever.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, tbh, relieved. it was the main threat to having a btc finacials market. the longer it dragged on the worse it was.
thestringpuller: You've probably been asked this many times before mp, but how does GLBSE being shutdown make you feel?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117715.msg1263447#msg1263447 cyeck this out tho
thestringpuller: The second glbse went under I sold a bunch of bitcoins, then waited and bought them back at a cheaper price...
thestringpuller: I made a good deal of money on the market crash :P
thestringpuller: gonna take months with my professor helping to get a single "chip"
thestringpuller: It's tough I just started writing the verilog based on a paper I read
thestringpuller: I used the campus labs to make a test FPGA
mircea_popescu: i don't spend that much on it personally.
mircea_popescu: you're not the only one calling me mp lol. and as long as the computer's on i have irc going.
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