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mircea_popescu: i've paid taxes in maybe twenty jurisdictions so far, i don't see why anyone could claim i have anything to do with them.
mircea_popescu: if you're not a citizen and are paying taxes i dun care, you're not liable.
mircea_popescu: not the same.
BTC-Mining: Since when will any government anywhere accept to take citizenship back and accept you stop paying any taxes? Tough luck on getting that through.
BTC-Mining: Except that doesn't really work that way...
mircea_popescu: you don't have to move. you just send them your citizenship in the mail and be done with it.
BTC-Mining: Unless everyone lived in their own one-man nation.
BTC-Mining: I don't see how you could reasonably expect someone who object to any single law in a country to be able to move somewhere that has no rules they disagree with.
mircea_popescu: yes, actually, it does, for this discussion.
BTC-Mining: Depends on the individual. Most people in every country pays taxes. Doesn't mean they all support 100% of the state.
mircea_popescu: seems to me if you pay the mob boss you're in the mob, whether you *claim* disagreement or not.
mircea_popescu: are they paying tax to the us ?
BTC-Mining: Well that would be something applied too broadly... Not everyone in the US agree with the US.
mircea_popescu: listen, if you're part of some mob cause "you grew up into it" you still go to jail.
mircea_popescu: people that dare organise into such a state are hostes humani gener
BTC-Mining: Eh, "americans" are just born in the US, not a direct cause of everything that happens in the US
mircea_popescu: no it's not. it's perfectly commensurate with the offence.
BTC-Mining: Are you sure you aren't part of the problem?
BTC-Mining: [03:10] <mircea_popescu> it is now a crime to be american.
BTC-Mining: Well, you seem to be overreacting to laws being too broad in the US by creating another broad law:
mircea_popescu: can go hang out with gabon, sierra leone and the rest.
mircea_popescu: it also explains why the united states has no room and no place in civilised society.
BTC-Mining: Although the problem of "broad/uncomprehensible laws" has been quite an issue globally, in many nations.
BTC-Mining: The website summarize the issue nicely.
BTC-Mining: Many regulations are made by expert in their fields but who have poor or no understanding of criminal law and it's intent.
BTC-Mining: Also, did you know that those muppets might be making some of the criminal laws? Not all laws are voted by the representatives.
mircea_popescu: fuck this shit.
mircea_popescu: fucking muppets ranting on about what the sec bla bla ?
BTC-Mining: I think the crime here is politicians rushing through new laws for their public opinion.
mircea_popescu: it is now a crime to be american.
BTC-Mining: Embrace the zergling...
BTC-Mining: But the zergling is all cuddly, grabbing you and nibbling at your internal organs.
mircea_popescu: this is like the fucking zerg.
mircea_popescu: a. i am going to pluck any bird i feel like ; b. i am going to make soup out of any turtle i get my hands on.
mircea_popescu: fuck that shit.
BTC-Mining: There's TONS of silly laws in the US
mircea_popescu: fuck that bullshit country.
mircea_popescu: whoa WHAT THE FUCKING HELL
mircea_popescu: i kinda like the cora chick.
BTC-Mining: That one is good too: http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/29326904495/16-a-problems
Diablo-D3: going to bed, night all
Diablo-D3: no, I paid other people to do that
mircea_popescu: certainly not the forums.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: does the bitcoin community really remind you of the pre-September internet?
dub: Downvote My Comments, no thats his hn
BTC-Mining: way before the website or pirate defaulted...
BTC-Mining: yeah, but last transactions dates from March 2012...
noagendamarket: the piratetracker address had 780 btc sent there lol
thestringpuller: even though I know it stands for Diablo Mining Company
thestringpuller: (I keep thinking DMC stands for the Delorean Motors Company)
thestringpuller: so what happened to DMC
Diablo-D3: he was right, in the end
Diablo-D3: noagendamarket: not at all, he didn't think the rest of the community could pony up the cash
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: smickles didnt want to invest in dmc
thestringpuller: that = they
thestringpuller: smickles: yes that do, but they also think that if 15-20% of the companies they invested in give them that ROI it's a "good year"
Diablo-D3: theres _no one_ in the bitcoin community who knows what they're doing
Diablo-D3: smickles: theres a few that are fucking retarded, but they're known
smickles: lol, Diablo-D3 don't vc firms look for 15x their original investment in 1 year?
Diablo-D3: not a bunch of fucking aspies flailing their arms because they invested in something they didnt understand wouldnt pay out their original investment for 2+ years
Diablo-D3: not that Im going to, but if I ever start another company, Im only going to deal with professional VC firms
Diablo-D3: but everyone decided to just be a bunch of faggots, so fuck it
thestringpuller: Most hardware takes 32 weeks to pay off
Diablo-D3: we could have mined everyone else under the table
Diablo-D3: the irony is DMC's plan made that moot
smickles: thestringpuller: coinbr is probably for you then
Diablo-D3: every company Ive tried to invest in so dmc can get there faster has pretty much fucked us one way or another
thestringpuller: I'll be patient and wait for more companies to ipo on mpex before I invest in an account
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: yes, thats my reason to shut dmc
Diablo-D3: [12:41:13] <thestringpuller> Everyone is closing their doors cause no one trusts anyone
thestringpuller: smickles: I'm not that good ;) I would have to have help for sure.
smickles: thestringpuller: well, to justify 30 btc, you'd probaby have to use margin and make a good call, eh?
Diablo-D3: smickles: but our tiny little backwoods wall street wannabe is dead
thestringpuller: smickles: not yet even though I could drop the cash on it I can't warrant the expenditure if I can't be sure I'll make the money back
Diablo-D3: yeah, but to account what =/
smickles: thestringpuller: do you have an mpex account? they're expensive, although i thing coinbr.com setup a brokerage site for mpex
thestringpuller: man i like that line from the faq
noagendamarket: http://genius23.com/images/samples/BLACK-STONE-MONKEY.jpg this is bitcoin
thestringpuller: heh "Bitcoin is in fact first and foremost a wonderful community of highly skilled, intelligent and open minded people which tearfully reminds one of the old days of the pre-September Internet." heh
thestringpuller: I might as well just make a business instead of trying to bu y one
Azelphur: I lefe things behind all the time
Azelphur: talking to yourself like a pro there :p
smickles: anything new there?
Azelphur: smickles: have you heard the zeekrewards and BS&T rumors?
smickles: yeah, not that i know exactly what we're liquidating at, but buying SS @ 2.5 is probably a loss
noagendamarket: "I spent all the petty cash and theres no receipts"
smickles: (on the whole)
noagendamarket: imagine if you burnt your workplace down and asked the boss for your wages still lol
smickles: heh, mpex is either options, or hardly anything else, but better anything else than glbse had
Azelphur: as much as I'd like to sell SS shares right now, gotta tell it like it is lol
Azelphur: so A) GLBSE puts info out and then you get bought out and it's over
noagendamarket: nefario still wants to get paid LOL
smickles: thestringpuller: i'll be compiling the next reports tomorrow
thestringpuller: back to the drawing board then
Azelphur: I imagine it's not too much of an alternative now, as soon as GLBSE puts out the info it's shutting down anyway
thestringpuller: so i had to write it off
thestringpuller: cause this seems like a good alternative to nyan.A
smickles: then did a 100 for 1 split some time later
Azelphur: thestringpuller: my history with SS is basically, I bought a buttload at launch at 1.0, sold em all for between 1.8 and 2.5, then bought again at 2.0 in the second issuance
thestringpuller: smickles: i was assuming the ipo was 2.5