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kakobrekla: thats the point of the whole thing
jurov: like, i'm going to trade forex, fund my account in btc and then have second thoughts
kakobrekla: can you rephrase the question
kakobrekla: better slowly than backwards
gribble: Best bid: 11.67752, Best ask: 11.67753, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.67752, 24 hour volume: 22623, 24 hour low: 11.56025, 24 hour high: 11.85
jurov: thx, i just got idea that kakobrekla's clients may need to hedge BTCUSD too
thestringpuller: from moneygram buttfucking me on the price
thestringpuller: well jurov I may end up using coinbr extensively if this service takes off to hedge fees
thestringpuller: jurov: mircea_popescu loved the live ticker
thestringpuller: #bitcoin-assets is the last bastion of hope
thestringpuller: everything encounters the eternal september it seems
thestringpuller: too many trolls
thestringpuller: there is no child porn on that site
jurov: so.i can't discuss mpex on btctalk anymore.. there's always somebody who says it's child porn site
thestringpuller: hopefully rg will be my first client for that latter
thestringpuller: the side product is personalized liquidity solutions for people who need to pay expenses in bitcoin but don't want to deal with fiat at all
thestringpuller: FabianB_: I'm launching a liquidation service. The main product is turning bitcoins into cash via moneygram within 1 hour
thestringpuller: I'm attempting to launch a service tonight
thestringpuller: anyone alive out there?
Chaaang-Noi: this is a dead or soon to be dead chan
Chaaang-Noi: in like a day this is the only post here <kakobrekla> http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102
noagendamarket: then there is the way a retard would do it
noagendamarket: the easy way to do it is just let people withdraw using their account on site
noagendamarket: he probably thinks he did
Azelphur: you guys know he did an interview and explained all this right?
Chaang-Noi: yeah why did he send me back BTC if he had the govt involved?
noagendamarket: unlike keyboard warriors the government can really fuck your shit up
noagendamarket: hes probably less scared of bitcoiners than the government :P
Chaang-Noi: was on the forum BTC-Mining from christo i think
Chaang-Noi: if he really had some sort of thing with the govt aginst me he would not have sent me back my BTC like a week after he delisted me without my AML stuff
BTC-Mining: Chaang-Noi, where was that link?
Chaang-Noi: i think he just got scared
BTC-Mining: Maybe an order to close the website and interdiction to do anything related to securities for some years.
BTC-Mining: Wouldn't be surprised if he was ordered to shut it down but it was too minor for them to sanction Nefario more than that.
BTC-Mining: He refused to say anything and insists that there won't be any problems?
Chaaang-Noi: but there was a vote
noagendamarket: there was npo point voting though
Chaaang-Noi: are you one of the shareholders noagenda?
Chaaang-Noi: more than 50% of bitcoin global voted to shut down GLBSE
noagendamarket: we didnt buy shares in Nefario we bought them in bitcoinglobal.
Chaaang-Noi: despite people telling him over and over not to
Chaaang-Noi: he really fucked up, he did this to himself
Chaaang-Noi: but he started this out being very anon and then changed it into what it is today in 3 versions
Chaaang-Noi: i think he thinks that if he shuts this down nothing bad will happen to him
noagendamarket: It doesnt make any sense to me :/
Chaaang-Noi: it also looks like more than 50% support him
Chaaang-Noi: im only 50% done as the log is loooong but it just looks like nefario wants to cover his ass
Chaaang-Noi: well i kinda hope the govt does not go after nefario
Chaaang-Noi: he wants to pretend that someone is forcing him to do something but i dont think that is the case
Diablo-D3: so theres that
Diablo-D3: I dunno, at least I bought back half the dmc shares
Chaaang-Noi: i dont think anyone is after him
BTC-Mining: I only saw tidbits quoted before.
BTC-Mining: It really looks like Nefario is chickening out of legal responsibility, trying to make everything disappear.
Chaaang-Noi: btw i did not leak this, its public
copumpkin: was confused there for a bit :)
thestringpuller: just using terminal
thestringpuller: not mint though
thestringpuller: noagendamarket: im.actually.working on that for personal.use
mircea_popescu: (as in, taxable when realised)
mircea_popescu: most jurisdiction have sane tax laws
noagendamarket: gives me a headache to think about lol
noagendamarket: need to track the prices at the time you use the coins ,capital gains tax etc
mircea_popescu: does this scale ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so ultimately i came to the conclusion maybe personalized liiquidation solutions would be more affordable for both parties. one peronalized solution would be a bill pay service for rg
mircea_popescu: that's always good then!
thestringpuller: i read more about free models after talking with you
thestringpuller: i may be able to bring the money gram prices to negligible
mircea_popescu: what did that smickles character do this time!
thestringpuller: for that: thank you
midnightmagic: Like, specifically.. of Japan.. the place where he's operating in.
midnightmagic: Also, did your lawyer tell you he broke the law *of Japan*?
midnightmagic: It wasn't just "hey gimme your wedding certificate" totally out of the blue?
Chaaang-Noi: month later said the case was closed and i got my money
Chaaang-Noi: he broke the law
Chaaang-Noi: they said i could sue for him making it public there was an AML investigation
Chaaang-Noi: mark called claimed on the forum he had proof i was a "terrorest or money launder"
Chaaang-Noi: like 3 of them
TomServo: I would expect it going in.. if it wasn't there to begin with I would agree doing it retroactively is suspect.
Chaaang-Noi: there was a thread on it
Chaaang-Noi: they did not have to do that
Chaaang-Noi: translated and then certified?
BTC-Mining: Maybe. I don't know their local laws and requirements.
BTC-Mining: Chaaang-Noi, I'd expect that from any regulated financial service
TomServo: Ahh, well yeah, I suppose that would do it.
BTC-Mining: To only slightly exagerate... yes, that kind of persons... drives me nut.
BTC-Mining: You know, those kind of people that if you'd not claim said authority was innocent or to be agreeing with them, but simply even suggesting there's no proof of anything or bringing forth any reasoning to it, you're automatically part of them and should be publicly executed?
TomServo: Chaaang-Noi: Just curious, why don't you trust Mt Gox?
BTC-Mining: reasons to do what they do and are not corrupted. I don't always have the same priorities as them, but I don't go around blindly attacking everyone.</rant>
BTC-Mining: I see people blindly attacking every authority on thinking and claims basically saying it's all wrong because it doesn't advantage them personally when other takes initiatives for themselves or others. Somehow it should always be for them. Yes there's corruption all around the world, but the majority of people in a position of authority knows what they're doing, have perfectly good
BTC-Mining: Donating to get the name enforced would be a solution.
Chaaang-Noi: id support that with money
Chaaang-Noi: one that more or less did nothing but hold that name
Chaaang-Noi: i think they should have set up two differnt foundations then
BTC-Mining: It's a wrong doing more good than harm to me. Especially if they establish with the name but keep the claim not to be the official foundation.
BTC-Mining: and the devs don't have the resource for that anyway.
BTC-Mining: Would be hard to have "Bitcoin Foundation" registered and enforced in every damn country
BTC-Mining: Better be the core dev establishing it before some random person makes literal claims to be the official Bitcoin Foundation
BTC-Mining: They need to establish it.
BTC-Mining: If they don't use it, they can't hold the name...