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Chaang-Noi: i kinda wonder if
the "double payment fail" was just a stalling
tactict.
gigavps: Diablo-D3 i meant
to get
the asset holders lists
Diablo-D3: 2pm: why
the fuck am I in a ditch, and why does my side hurt, and whats with
this bag of ice
Diablo-D3: 10am: spends user funds
to get hookers and blow
gigavps: has anyone
talked with nefario about a
timeline for
the shutdown of glbse?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you know
that
this yellow banana we like so much is going
to die out
Chaang-Noi: not sure what went wrong, used
the wallet for oever 1 year and have over 5000
transactions and several hundred address
Chaang-Noi: i used
the same wallet on
two computers and everything got fucked up
Chaang-Noi: i wanted
to see if a
transaction was good
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: I was reading
that "Breakthrough Offers New Route
to Large-Scale Quantum Computing" . BTC or any crypto-blah is not fucked yet but it's getting closer. 7 more years maybe and some lab has it up and working... and
then BTC will become a blip in e-pages of history
EskimoBob: whats in
the BTC
TV? Any new soap operas or drama?
noagendamarket: thats why so many women get pregnant
to get
the single parents pension
noagendamarket: you dont get very much if you dont work in Australia either
though...subsistence living
Azelphur: I
think
that's pretty much
the jist of it
Azelphur: go
to local walmarts and ask if you can have a large cardboard box
Chaaang-Noi: so lets say im in
the usa and i dont want or cant work
Azelphur: Chaaang-Noi: you can always
take my approach, one of
the perks of having Autism is
that
the welfare people never fuck with me
noagendamarket: in Australia even
the middle class get welfare of some sort
Diablo-D3: no, he gets
that from beating women
thestringpuller: "BitCoins might not provide us as much financial security in
the short-term, but it would definitely empower us overall."
thestringpuller: entrepreneur's success is generally measured by
the jobs
they create
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's just an intellectually lazy way
to
think "oh, im a btc entrepreneur"
thestringpuller: you're right
though: "it makes no sense
to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all
the
trouble you went
to buy bitcoin in
the first place."
noagendamarket: Theymos asked me about it but I hadnt said yes or no when nefario shut
the site down
mircea_popescu: and in general, stop
trying
to act like you're either legitimate or respectable. neither's
the case.
mircea_popescu: no, you were actively
trying
to sucker someone into buying
them a few weeks back.
mircea_popescu: you can lay off now, nobody's going
to pay you money for your shares anyway.
mircea_popescu: noagendamarket even if we were
to
take
the 500 a month figure seriously, it still doesn't pay
the rent.
noagendamarket: nefario
took most of
the glbse funds
thats why
the shareholders didnt get much :P
mircea_popescu: yes, it makes no sense
to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all
the
trouble you went
to buy bitcoin in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: glbse was making for
the "sharegholders" less
than what
the crown was paying
taaki as welfare.
thestringpuller: are
there any financial figures floating around? or is it privately held?
mircea_popescu: and so
they ended up selling
to
themselves so business as ... normal./
mircea_popescu: no, apparently
the bids on
that were just as fake as all
therest
thestringpuller: "In 2006, Gerald Smith estimated $250 million could produce 10 milligrams of positrons[38] (equivalent
to $25 billion per gram)"
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Good news. We have figured out a solution for
this problem. Bitmit is not going
to be sold. Business as usual. We are sorry for
the insecurity
this may have caused."
gigavps: thestringpuller what happened
to mpoe?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: why do all british lawyers have funny
teeth...
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: china is jerking as fast as
they can
mircea_popescu: "once
the news about what we are
talking about gets out, MPEX will be under huge pressure, if
they want or not"
Diablo-D3: just find a
thread and be like BAM
Diablo-D3: dare someone
to post
that as a reply
to goat on
the forums
EskimoBob: if we get
the securities out of
the GLBSE, we can move on but assets-otc is out for good. It offers nothing
that OT can not
EskimoBob: Nefario is another
type of asshole.
This pior_n fuck just wasted my
time :)
Diablo-D3: heh, I got
that lesson with nefario =/
EskimoBob: I am going
to use
the contract I have up in
the forum and
the divs will be around 20% a year
EskimoBob: pigeons: I
think I am going
the OT way and I'll find someone who issues
the BTC derivative or do it myself as a market maker
EskimoBob: jurov: OT has all
that functionality with 2 major differences - you can not be delisted by a moody joker and it has quoting system
EskimoBob: tonikt: you forgot
to mention
that your security = delisted at any
time you are in a bad mood
pigeons: I'd prefer if you issue an OT contract, even if its on an OT server i have
to setup
EskimoBob: Thank you pigeons. I have your coin BTW. As you know,
tonikt got mad and delisted my project. I am going
to look for another listing option. Do you want me
to send you back your coin?
tonikt: And in practice it's not harder
to use it
than bitcoin-otc
tonikt: ... but more for long
time investors, who dont mind
to copy/past gpg stuff one a month or so, just
to make sure
that nobody will put hands on
their assets/bitcoins during
the process
tonikt: Definitelly assets-otc is not for daily
traders
tonikt: I guess you could ask
the same question
to nanotube: why he did not come out with a desktop app, instead on
the bot?
tonikt: I mean: bitcoin-otc has been using it - so people know how
to handle it
tonikt: but it would be kind of hard
to distribute a new desktop app (in binary version, I presume) with
the same kind of
trust as
the old fasion gpg has already
tonikt: jurov: I'm not saying
that a desktop app would not be secured
tonikt: I
think
they do - and so eventually, after another exchange crashes,
they will finally understand
that a system like assets-otc is
the only ultimatelly secured solution
jurov: tell me, why should be a desktop app
that just calls gpg insecure?
tonikt: But don't
the end users care about
the security of
their assets?
tonikt: And
then
the
tool process
the contracts one by one verifying signatures -
to calculate
the final balance and output a proper sendmany RPC command
jurov: so, dividend issuers have a nice
tool
they'll need maybe once a month... but end users shall fumble with gpg and browserevery
time
they
trade?
tonikt: You
take
this zip file
to an offline PC, setup how many BTC you want
to pay and run
the
tool..
tonikt: You just download an archive with
the entire history of your assets
transaction - it's a zip file with PGP signed contracts inside and
the keys
tonikt: At a PC
that has never been connected
to a network
tonikt: Even
the dividend payment
tool was designed and made in a way
that you can use it offline
jurov: it shouldn't be hard
to streamline
jurov: as seen in
the past, some will rather die
than
to copy/paste
text
to gpg and paste
the result back
to browser
tonikt: plus of course,
to handle
the service you need a desktop app: GnuPG
tonikt: assets-otc is more like a bitcoin wallet, rather
than a bitcoin exchange
jurov: hm.. wouldn't
that work much better as desktop app, at least for asset holders?
tonikt: You can store assets at assets-otc, you get a PGP signed receipts, but it is not a
trading platform
tonikt: I'm saying it all
the
time - but people just dont seem
to get it