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Doffx: I'm currently writing a mircea_popescu tell all book from the Logs.
Doffx: I log everything you say too.
mircea_popescu: Doffx i have logs of tiems i'm on.
Doffx: Some back = better than Nothing
gigavps: the only reason BTC-Mining owns so many gigamining shares was to flip them when they could be traded
gigavps: i can probably make something to pay everyone coupon payments once i have the data from glbse
smickles: Doffx: the data is currently unknowable :/
Doffx: Your going to have to do something like that eventually regardless if you get the glbse info back
mircea_popescu: even with no consideration of any law, it's not something you can ask of people any more than you can ask them to build you a house out of dry sand
smickles: mircea_popescu: heh, yeah, I certainly agree, but there are additional issues too
Doffx: I said no, but that you could use the entire log to come up with the AVE price at the time of close.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining, smickles : i'm just pointing out it's inhuman to expect someone to do this manually. esp on a high volume asset.
BTC-Mining: Well in your case, yes, being in the US is unfortunate
gigavps: Doffx i will ask my question again. Does the last traded price on glbse reflect the damage they have caused?
smickles: yeah, public trading is a no-go (in 'merica)
mircea_popescu: gigavps a ok that's useful.
gigavps: BTC-Mining I WOULD BE BREAKING THE LAW
BTC-Mining: <mircea_popescu> He'll have a list of which address holds how many shares. Someone with an address could sign his shares off to another address.
Doffx: Has anyone logged this channel since it started?
gigavps: mircea_popescu someone on the forums posted the entire trading logs since glbse 2.0
smickles: (unless you pay them for access)
mircea_popescu: that too.
smickles: mircea_popescu: and old tweets are disappeared by twitter
mircea_popescu: <gigavps> https://twitter.com/glbse << speaking of this, someone should make a copy. iirc you can delete tweets.
smickles: mircea_popescu: manually, like with individual share transfer contracts
Doffx: It reflects the value at the time of Glbse closing
mircea_popescu: actually, while at it, why not ask him to produce water manually. from like, some hydrogen gas.
gigavps: but does it reflect the value of gigamining today?
mircea_popescu: <BTC-Mining> Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually. << this is insanity, seriously. how is he to do trades manually ?
Doffx: If they still exsist
smickles: mircea_popescu: oh yeah, i forgot about that bit
Doffx: Yeah but you should be able to get the ave trade numbers from it since it was a running transaction log
mircea_popescu: smickles actually : some btc returned twice, some btc not returned.
gigavps: smickles everyone who wants to get paid will probably need to agree to a new contract
smickles: how do you chang a contract without total concent tho?
gigavps: Doffx the last trade on glbse does not reflect the actions of glbse
gigavps: my main point is that without a buyback clause that can be executed, the contract would need to be changed
Doffx: Or is that poof to
Doffx: Wouldnt the twitter feed have the last sale of Gigamining>
BTC-Mining: mpex price is considerably lower however because it is not assumed not to upgrade to Teramining.
smickles: that would be reasonable, do any of thes listing contracts mention GLBSE specifically?
gigavps: maybe we should just use the mpex highest traded price
gigavps: except for that pesky buy back clause that everyone chooses to ignore
smickles: gigavps: good to hear
gigavps: seems everyone things mining bonds are actually perpetual
gigavps: unless you want me to go to prison
BTC-Mining: Assuming you're willing to do that...
BTC-Mining: Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually.
gigavps: but i don't think anyone would like that price much
gigavps: i guess we could use the mpex etf to come to a price
gigavps: no way to know the highest trading price over the last 15 days
gigavps: if i get the info from glbse
BTC-Mining: Payment claims. Still many claiming to not have been paid however.
gigavps: the contract will have to change
gigavps: BTC-Mining i'm not sure if you realize this or not, but the perpetual contract can no longer exist
smickles: am i up to date on that issue? some btc has been returned, but no share info?
BTC-Mining: Not yet. I don't really need any more info than what has already been reported by those who did.
BTC-Mining: Aye, I'm sure that will be released soon enough
gigavps: BTC-Mining that's great, only wish i could confirm that somehow
BTC-Mining: I'm up to 918 Gigamining shares by the way.
BTC-Mining: I mostly got info from the leaked shareholders meeting
BTC-Mining: Around. I just never had the article mentioned
Doffx: Mpex too
Doffx: I doubt mepex would allow a lot of them though
Doffx: Ahh, that would be cool.
smickles: Doffx: should glbse assets move to MPEx, jurov will set up asset holders with coinbr accounts
jurov: for example conibr is able to facilitate 1:1 exchange of GSDPT to S.DICE
thestringpuller: i want it to be invite only
thestringpuller: smickles to answer your question it should be live within 48 hours to a few people
smickles: thestringpuller: I'm sure we can come to a mutually benificial arrangement without the use of marketing ploys :)
jurov: about the others.. doubt they'll get accepted on mpex
jurov: i already offered that to all passthrough operators
smickles: jurov: that's a good offer, I hope you're extending that to all the glbse issuers
thestringpuller: smickles do you give discounts to btc companies?
smickles: I've already sent in the incorporation papers
jurov: smickles, do you plan to move SS to mpex when glbse stuff is sorted out?
smickles: thestringpuller: is the site live now?
thestringpuller: built the db and mini trading automoton
thestringpuller: my operations guy registered the domain and all
smickles: it is true and good
Doffx: Obviously you can send me the message and ill open later with my key.
smickles: Doffx: no problem, i was just getting your fingerprint there
Doffx: I'm at work smickles it may have to wait until I get home to verify.
smickles: Doffx: let me draft up a contract for you to review then :)
Doffx: I may take that offer.
smickles: Doffx: i think i'd buy at 0.0109
mircea_popescu: considering that stuff with the dbl payments...
EskimoBob: I guess nefario has not contacted any issuers... damn, how is this BS going to take
smickles: they either have to have the shares, or get the shares when they become available
Doffx: I have 900 I actually know that for sure because its been the same for months
smickles: oh, well, I'd have to trust the other party
smickles: mircea_popescu: if i get a contract from him saying that he sells them to me, i see no problem in it
mircea_popescu: can you buy them back ?!
Doffx: Thats what I bought in at thereabouts
Doffx: Id like to get back .015 if possible.
smickles: Doffx: 900 SS? what would you sell them to me at?
Doffx: Id like to get both shares sold and liquidate all my BTC I need the extra cash for rl crap.
mircea_popescu: Doffx haha i never said they'd be
Doffx: I was in two reliable assets
Doffx: Wow nice I made btc on that.