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mircea_popescu: in that order.
mircea_popescu: haha no, but it's a simple test for class. there's three classes practically, the homeless, the employed, the idle.
OneMiner: There's already a legal precident for that where I'm from.
knotwork: Also aren't American Presidents more king in practice than, well, the Queen for example?
mircea_popescu: you either belong there or don't.
mircea_popescu: no one person tries to put you lol.
OneMiner: Well, I can tell you that if a person tries to put me in a class under them.... their time is limited at that point.
mircea_popescu: a .22 torch ?
mircea_popescu: OneEyed you're a good shot with torches ?
OneMiner: So, slavery. It's the natural conclusion, don't you think?
mircea_popescu: OneMiner obviously there should be some below.
knotwork: Not so sure. Consider voters, bread, and circusses. Having someone trained to the task who can call for a vote of n o confidence seems it could have redeeming virtue
mircea_popescu: the pretense that all "are equal" offends me.
OneMiner: If you have someone above then it's possible to have others below. It's an argument for slavery in reverse.
mircea_popescu: actually i'm the exact opposite persuasion
OneMiner: They should do the right thing and become citizens like everybody else instead of what I like to call "super citizens" most equal of the equals, you dig?
knotwork: Suppose the Queen Mum had been in there!?!?! :)
OneMiner: The fact that there's still a royal family offends me too.
knotwork: 4th july is the more modern one, yay we DID get free of crown and parliament. braggarts. :)
OneMiner: People who choose to solve their problems with explosives are not welcome near me, but I'll take a look at that anyways. ;)
knotwork: 5th november is almost a national holiday so as never to forget
knotwork: some big nob was in the houses at the time else maybe it'd've been a misdeameanor or a service to the crown
OneMiner: Ummm..... Don't know 'bout the 5th of Nov. Probably heard of it once.....
Chaaang-Noi: drawn and quartered i think
Chaaang-Noi: they killed that guy...
knotwork: He put fireworks under the Central Bank! (no, wait, just the houses of parliament, maybe not so bad?)
knotwork: Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot!??!
knotwork: Remember Remember the Fifth of November? Does that rhyme now only refer to some 21st century movie?!?!?!
OneMiner: Nope Mr. Ver. Who's this Guy?
knotwork: OneMiner haha for a moment I thought you mean Guy Ffawkes got ten months for it :)
knotwork: actually it wasnt even selling charge its worded as possession with intent to sell so is not only assuming guilt its assuming intent
mircea_popescu: knotwork wait a second. are you talking tobacco or pot ?
knotwork: I was willing to go to supreme court on that as assuming guilt so the dropped the selling charges and gave me 30 days weekends for the cultivation
OneMiner: The one law has nothing to do with the other. Fireworks are explosives and can set fires easily. Guy got 10 months for it. Sounds kosher to me.
knotwork: I wasn't even actually proven to sell them, its assumed anyone with two cartons of smokes must be a dealer, no proof needed
knotwork: spent the last weekend at home in house arrest, their was too much weed in the prison so they let folk go home
knotwork: hmm maybe weekend countes as 3 days. it counted for more than it really was for sure
knotwork: not an approved means of weaning oneself off their evil weed :)
knotwork: smells nicer than the state's evil weed and causes less cancer, plus might not pay tax! Eeeeeevil!
mircea_popescu: wtf they do this ?
knotwork: yeah 30 days served on weekends in the trailer outside the actua prison, with time off for good behavior.
mircea_popescu: were you in prison is the idea ?
knotwork: oh and sell them. growing is only up to 7 years, selling is up to life
knotwork: Chap did time! Selling fireworks by mail. Me all I did was grow plants
knotwork: I suppose now when all the [...fellows..] hear that I did time for *growing and selling plants* they'lll all move over on the bench to distance themselves from me...
knotwork: Oh gosh I'm shocked, anarchists don't just *read* the anarchists cookbook some of them actually *cook*?!??! But to then capitalistically *sell* their cooking gasp that is *too* much!
Chaaang-Noi: this is why nefario had to shut down glbse
Chaaang-Noi: no one has a claim vs me... they have claim vs glbse
Chaaang-Noi: EskimoBob i dont know who the investors are.. the only one i deal with is nefaro/glbse
OneMiner: Ahh right on. Thanks.
mircea_popescu: runs a computer parts shop in california, financed bitpay to some degree, lost a lot of money in bitcoinica etc
mircea_popescu: OneMiner he's a bitcoin enthusiast, been doing things like taking outdoor panels to advertise his acceptance of bitcoin
OneMiner: You can only imagine how many were in his apartment. If there was a fire he'd be lucky to not end up with manslaughter charges at the least.
OneMiner: Who's Mr. Ver? 10 months in prison sounds about right to me. One of the links talks about him storing the explosives in a residential apartment building and mailing them via US mail. Assuming the products were going all over the country they could have ended up on a plane. At the very minimum he put hundreds of people in mortal or near mortal danger.
Diablo-D3: Anduck: plus, I bought back half the DMC shares before GLBSE collapsed, and the DI.BFLSC stuff isnt due until after the 31st
Diablo-D3: until nefario releases the data, I cant do shit
EskimoBob: what so banal about that?
mircea_popescu: so... that's banal.
mircea_popescu: in all cases it cuts the eventual punishment significantly.
EskimoBob: if I understand it correctly, PPT operators can actually get off that boat by paying the investors back the coin
EskimoBob: Chaaang-Noi: I was reading that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120759.20
mircea_popescu: so what's the word, any asics delivered last week ? what was the hash jump we saw ?
Chaaang-Noi: and now he and all the other glbsers can get their asses sued
Chaaang-Noi: diable only needs to pay glbse.. glbse then needs to pay out the money
Chaaang-Noi: thats why glbse was acting as the broker
Chaaang-Noi: if he trust nefario it opens himself up to others claiming they had it
mircea_popescu: well nefario never released the data afaik
Chaaang-Noi: he cant ever "know" he can only trust nefario
mircea_popescu: how does he know this ?
Anduck: i had like 1 btc in there...
Chaaang-Noi: go talk to a lawyer about it
Chaaang-Noi: its not the asset issuers responcability to deal with the broker, its the people who used the brokers servces to deal with it
Anduck: what are you going to do about it?
Diablo-D3: what happened to ALL THE FUCKING ASSETS ON GLBSE
Anduck: wat happened to BFL.FAIL and BFL.SUCC and DMC?
Chaaang-Noi: also sure its the same guy?
Chaaang-Noi: why would he be selling that stuff on ebay
Chaaang-Noi: i thought that guy was really rich
Chaaang-Noi: but 10 months in jail for that is harsh
Chaaang-Noi: yeah he should not ahve mailed them or sold them on ebay
mircea_popescu: it seems they're some sort of firecracker
Chaaang-Noi: wow on Ver if true
rg: the fact that its from a retard makes it SO much worse
mircea_popescu: The woman named “Democrat of The Year” this year by the Jefferson County Democratic Party has been convicted of felony theft by a Jefferson County jury for stealing from a developmentally disabled 71-year-old woman.
mircea_popescu: this shit's too funny :
mircea_popescu: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/27/worker-at-northwest-indiana-library-discovers-black-powder-gun-hidden-inside/ this is pretty cool
mircea_popescu: girl dug up a conviction. there will be a post in a few.
smickles: what'd he get that status for?
mircea_popescu: does the community know roger ver is an ex-con ?!
smickles: oh wow, i'm going to make a solid rocket booster out of sucrose
smickles: not the one i'm talking about
smickles: but neither were the people wo developed the vega rocket
mircea_popescu: well elon was not in college atthe time
smickles: lol, so in the same timeframe it took to develop this (and the rocket that sent it up), elon musk docked a ship with the ISS
mircea_popescu: shoulda hired the brits instead, 5b sounds more hygienic than guyana
smickles: makes sense, they launched it, right?
mircea_popescu: well i blame the french
smickles: "As of 26 February 2012, it appears that the satellite has not settled into the orbit properly. Due to a malfunction to its stabilizing system, it is expected that the satellite will spin uncontrollably and eventually get lost in space. However, the coordinator of the project, Mugurel Bălan has stated that the situation is under control."
mircea_popescu: ON THEIR OWN DIME
mircea_popescu: you see this is what a laissez faire state is