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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-17 01:44:25 mp_en_viaje: c) you're
thinking
too cleanly, which is adequate for republican work but inadequate
to interfacing work (a point somewhat reminescent of
this php discussion). it's
the empire of shit for a reason, let it have it.
mod6: Thanks for
the update BingoBoingo. I'm a couple of days behind on logz here; I've been horribly ill for
the last 3 days. I'll start catching up, bbl.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform mod6: Update. As of
the most recent communication from
the datacenter, it seems
they want
to be sued. You have
this weekend
to
think
this matter over.
There is
the chance
they may be pushed into settling. Based on
their response and
the fact
they pushed it
through Maxi, I suspect
they ended
their week of sweating by deciding
to bluff. First sit down with counsel scheduled for 8pm UTC Monday. Another sitdown may be
BingoBoingo: "mala fe" appears 34
times in
the Codigo Civil. I yet
to eat
them all.
BingoBoingo: Except
they've shown bad faith several
times
this month.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, only 4 mentions of "causa extraña" in
the entire civile code.
Two involve liability in construction. One involves
the operation of depositories.
Then
there's: El deudor es condenado al resarcimiento de daños y perjuicios, sea en razón de la falta de cumplimiento de la obligación o de la demora en la ejecución, aunque no haya mala fe de su parte, siempre que no justifique que la falta de cumplimiento proviene de c
BingoBoingo: Well, most recently recommnded lawyer so far is responsive, fellow who recommended him has actually used him as a lawyer rather
than merely an acquintance.
mp_en_viaje: because
that'd be
the correct answer at
this juncture, "here's my copy of police report"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:34:40
trinque: diana_coman: why step back
BingoBoingo: As
though "strange cause" can indemnify his own dishonest communication
trinque: "what
they're scared animals
too;
tell
them what
they're doing
there, it's not like anyone knows"
trinque: I couldn't fucking believe
this had
to be explained, not just
to her, but
to everyone
there
trinque: told her she was being an idiot, and you make
them your friends, and
then
tell
them
to make space for
the dance party
trinque: she's
tiny, had hindbrain fear
turning her into a bitch at strangers
trinque: re: atomization, girl got in big
trouble recently for dealing with people at concerts incorrectly
mp_en_viaje: i have been keeping a (quite public, at
that) log of a wide reaching "where is it not raining" research project. expensive enough,
too, i've been burning 4 figures/day, every day, since ~april. not
that
the point is how
to make it cheapest or anything
mp_en_viaje: and
the lord answered "i don't know, my good man. for, you see... it is raining. SULPHURIC ACID."
mp_en_viaje: so you know, maybe you're
the merchant who went
to
town
to
talk
to
the lord,
to ask his question, "your grace, how
the fuck do i keep my shop open when it's raining sulphuric acid"
trinque: definitely
there's
this,
the atomization
mp_en_viaje: then maybe
their "real" life hasn't really started yet.
mp_en_viaje: but it's quite manifest,
their principal fear/problem/goal is
to AVOID investment.
mp_en_viaje: some dude draw me as hitler ; some other dude (quite good,
too) drew eulora's splashscreen (and some kid another) and jesuis, what 12,
there's a bunch more.
mp_en_viaje: o yeah, remember ? i wasn't even counting
the 100 or w/e
topless girls.
trinque: the one with
the wannabe ren-and-stimpy plus swastikas schtick
trinque: she oughta be
the current john k
mp_en_viaje: over
the years i
think i had at least 12 of
these nibble and runoff idiots.
trinque: yeah, I was just
thinking of
that nazi girl's nice
tits.
mp_en_viaje: cool, now
two or
three dozen more of
that'd be pretty useful.
trinque: wouldn't be
the first
time I said fuck it, grabbed guitar and joint, and said "that's enough money for now, bbl"
mp_en_viaje: of course, it's
taking its god damned sweet
time, and ppl keep waylaying diana_coman with weird, but...
mp_en_viaje: the reason i asked "why videogames" was because, oddly,
that's
the one field i feel like i've a good grip on/.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, you're actually
the one
that gets in ~least
trouble for being fucking weird. almost on girl level.
trinque: whether
this leaves anything is for whomever
to say
trinque: and I'm not
the polymath nor
the monk
mp_en_viaje: now, how
to keep
tmsr from being another xerox parc / symbolics / etc is, and has been a major
thing on my forebrain.
mp_en_viaje: and i do not say
this idly ; i have made my own experiments as well as seen others', very EXPENSIVE, experiments in
the same vein all over
the world. people regularly sink billion+ in "tech incubator" producing nothing comparable.
mp_en_viaje: to be quite frank, i wish for my sins i could be persuaded by
the gloom and doom, "everyone's here idiots, will never do or amount
to anything" and so on. i
truly do, because my life'd be a whole lot simpler. but... it's not
there, here's a group of people which over years not decades got a LOT of shit
together. as far as making quality products
this hole's unparalleled.
trinque: it'll
take some
time for
that
to be worthwhile
to ya, but I appreciate it.
mp_en_viaje: leaves
two
things
to do, out of
the
three. high quality products,
that we do quite well, i am well satisfied of
this.
mp_en_viaje: to circle back
to
the method : it's evident
that reducing friction's universally a major goal. so it seems
to me.
thus
things like
the orig line
that started
the discussion. it further seems
to me
that
talking
to people's
the other major goal.
trinque: because of
the need for outreach, and because
the
time is ripe for satire.
mp_en_viaje: i wouldn't do
that for BingoBoingo either, arguably who needed it more and asked more pointedly.
trinque: certainly not looking for
that
mp_en_viaje: you're
the lord, i've no doubt you're smart an' possessed, you come up with it! i'm more
than willing
to sound it for you, but what, i'm
togive you detailed marchong orders ?
trinque: I've been cooking a few videogame ideas
though
trinque: then we agree
there
too, lol
trinque: what do you see as
the sensible method here?
mp_en_viaje: right. all
that said, one still has
to do it sensibly.
trinque: I don't disagree on any of
these points.
mp_en_viaje: (hence my point,
the whole underlying mechanism of savings and investing's naught besides delayed gratification as a behaviour, which is how biologists call honor)
mp_en_viaje: by and large, on a reasonable
timespan, man on average does not eat.
mp_en_viaje: an' i defy you
to give me an example of any business decision, you or anyone ever made, which didn't root in honor.
mp_en_viaje: the "i'm not quite sunken low enough
to eat here" coming before my leaving some shitty joint and
the "i
think nsa might finance a serious attempt" before, what,
they're based on money ? not directly.
the first node's honor.
mp_en_viaje: all you do, in
the end, is honor-driven not otherwise ; may be justified otherwise, but at
the root and at
the core,
the quantum of deed runs on a dropplet of honor.
mp_en_viaje: some guy arms a ship
to whatever, discover uraniumgold. why ? "to discover" my foot, it's for honor equally so, he figures
the goal's respectable.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, factually, everyone bankrupts himself for honor. consider
this
thoroughly if you will. someone just posted what
turns out
to be zuckerberg's ugly gf on
trilema ;
they "pledge
to donate 99% of facebook" bla bla. why ?
mp_en_viaje: i dunno how up
to date on subatomic physics you are ; but
the problem is just as fundamental as
the energy-density problem (for which
the link
to
the great log discussion escapes me now) of car batteries : at 4000 units wide,
the noise well exceeds
the signal.
trinque: so if
there's something
that will get more people using
the wallet, and
thus make
the wallet viable (i.e. I can pay someone
to improve it, and do so without it being charity out of my own pocket), I will have
to
think of
that
thing.
trinque: but if others are going
to keep bankrupting
themselves for honor (or because
they'd rather will
the dicksucking rather
than work like I'm certain mp did
to have
the money), we're just going
to be boo-hooing
that mp wont give us some of his coin.
trinque: the particular item might not be possible yet, maybe
there are experiments leading up, maybe not yet.
mp_en_viaje: i would certainly not mind it being baked, and i dunno, i'd have
thought
the pizarro history shewed clear enough i also don't mind people doing
things on
their own at all. you can make it if you want,
that's not an issue. but you won't be able
to make it as
things stand, not anymore
than you'll make a useful electric car. a central needed
thing's not
there.
mp_en_viaje: if you're interested in my (allegedly clueless, as it periodically is) understanding of
the matter, alf wasn't interested in baking you a rsa chip because
the item is not currently feasible. it specifically requires an object not yet known
to exist,
the extremely long mult'er.
mp_en_viaje: well so what are you saying
then, "i dun wanna be myself/my work associated with
the rest of l1" ?
trinque: and if
the chip is mp's
that's fine
too, but my
trust of
these other chaps is at nil.
trinque: nah, I
think you are not at fault here
trinque: I even
told alf I had
the cash
to do an experimental run of
the RSA chip, and he ignored, because why have friends
mp_en_viaje: do you perceive
the whole adventure is actually a grand scam, in
the sense
that what i claim is whatever, business republic bitcoin etc, but what i'm ~really~ looking for is people
to prop up my ego somehow, like an elaborate social dance ? cuz i know full well success is impossible or something ?
trinque: the latter is all
these fucks have been doing, "if I
tell
these UYians my cock is 7ft,
they'll line up at feet just like mp's girls"
trinque: mp_en_viaje: one is going
to have
to figure out
to get fed post-apocalypse, or ever larp in
the grand shadow of mp
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, no, i know. and ima eg buy bimbo some instagram followers, cuz w/e,
teenybopper interests, wants
to instagram. and so on.
mp_en_viaje: or if not, let's dispose of
the raisins first. what is your beef with
the pizarro folk,
they lost
their own money, being derpy. you donated
them some boxes, iirc
mp_en_viaje: now,
this may morph into a very different, from
the
top down discussion, okay, if you will. but
then let's carry it properly, neh ? rather
than mix everything in
there.
trinque: thing is, I'll even build it for you, but I need
to get
this aired
too.
mp_en_viaje: trinque,
tbh, i started
this discussion from
the grass roots, "of my so many past
txn, X% went
through my friend
trinque and Y%
through rando retards ; why should Y >> X ?!?!?!"
diana_coman: trinque: but if you make a business out of it
then part and parcel is precisely bringing people in
to use it ie create
the market, no?
trinque: somebody has
to have what
to process for processing fees
to feed
the bot
diana_coman: trinque: are you saying
that "I watched pizarro failing because
they didn't bring people in
the wot; so not worth dev
the wallet because not enough people in wot" ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:36:09
trinque:
that
thing has a market. everyone knows
tls is a lie.
trinque: I
think it's hard
to see
the market, but in
the last
thread about
the hardware RSA device it was clear I wasn't
talking about market
the same way as you, and
that's where
the clarity ended.
mp_en_viaje: is
the idea
that you're not interested in developing bitcoin
things because you don't perceive
there's a way
to benefit from it ?
mp_en_viaje: trinque,
tbh i don't get what you're saying.
trinque: I
took a few passes at
them
to help with
the business
too, and
this
twat (yes you, alf) dares
try
to w/e, get me
to
take up
the broken business or imitate it in same vein only after he's shat his pants.
trinque: what other payment
throughput is
there
to make
the
thing revenue, and if not, I can't spend my
time like
that.
trinque: I've just watched
these other guys shred
their savings making a notbusiness and
then apparently going
to do
the same
thing in another spot, because
the last one was cursed with
the "locals are subhuman" or w/e, and having not
to do with
themselves