⏐︎ 10061
mike_c: new chart: http://www.btcalpha.com/income/#justdice
mike_c: and for those sans javascript: http://i.imgur.com/6zFGjFP.png
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29650 @ 0.0009659 = 28.6389 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: nice work mike_c
mike_c: thx. hopefully not a good btc investment headed for the crapper.
mike_c: maybe people are bored of rolling dice.
kakobrekla: or just lost it all already
cazalla: i thought dooglus would've run with the coins by now
mike_c: dooglus seems like a very standup guy.
cazalla: yeah he does
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0599 = 0.1797 BTC [-]
bounce: ``Two other exchanges hit by the same problem, Bitstamp Ltd. of Slovenia and BTC-e of Bulgaria, resumed normal trading after working out a fix with software coders coordinated by the Bitcoin Foundation.'' (wsj) -- I don't recall the bitcoin foundation having much to do with it. case of inserting yourself for marketeering purposes?
mircea_popescu: mike_c interesting stuff
mircea_popescu: !jd
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 15388 BTC profit, 32.0k BTC invested, 976.46 mio bets, 5.13 mio BTC wagered
mike_c: not sure what to make of it.
mircea_popescu: sdice showed the exact same hump pattern over its lifetime
mircea_popescu: novelty effect maybe ?
mike_c: yeah, could be. it's just not interesting enough to hold people's attention. customer churn is higher than new customer acquisition.
cazalla: how does doge-dice compare?
mircea_popescu: bounce pretty much
mircea_popescu: "let's pretend like we matter by pretending like we matter."
mircea_popescu: mike_c what boggles my mind is... 5mn wagered should show 50k profit.
mircea_popescu: it's been stuck around 12-15kish forever neh ?
mike_c: it is heavily skewed by nakowa, the huge lucky bettor.
mircea_popescu: but that was long ago ?
mike_c: yeah. but since then it has largely tracked expected returns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00096577 = 24.2891 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: o it has ?
bounce: too bad journos are suckers for that sort of crap. and apparently there's good dues revenue in it too. nice racket.
mike_c: last three months, 425k wagered.
mircea_popescu: bounce revenue what ?
mike_c: so expected would only be 4k profit
mircea_popescu: and actual profit ?
bounce briefly wonders if there'd be legitimate purposes for a "bitcoin foundation", and what sort of people you'd want in there, then.
mike_c: ~ 4.5k
mircea_popescu: ah then that's cool.
bounce: ``The Bitcoin Foundation is basically the official establishment of a loose collection of technology geeks, businessmen, and big-government skeptics from around the world. The 18-month-old group has thousands of members, plus roughly $3 million in dues and donations contributed in bitcoins.''
mircea_popescu: derp.
bounce: treacherous use of "official" there
mircea_popescu: they got some donations originally, when btc was cheap.
bounce: what's the speshul extra spendy memberships cost again?
mircea_popescu: bounce well, shot the only guy on the authors list with any sm exposure a tweet.
mircea_popescu: bounce basically ver donated i dun recall, 3k btc was it ? back when btc was 50ish
bounce: oh dear. a tweet!
bounce: ;;calc 3000 * [tlast]
gribble: 1350000
mircea_popescu: a few forum muppets split a coupla hundred btc between a thousand or so heads
mircea_popescu: and the rest is open to debate.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.01200125 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00012599 = 0.378 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0598 = 0.6578 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1369 @ 0.000127 = 0.1739 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03809999 = 0.381 BTC [-]
bounce: looking at their membership page and the dues listed --in usd but payable in "bitcoin index", taking usd for reference here, and taking the yearlies for just one year-- I'm calculating a band of 405925 to 440225 USD-worth lower bound actually paid
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 939 @ 0.00013398 = 0.1258 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00096552 = 16.8966 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: this is actually remarkably accurate afaik.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00096874 = 8.5733 BTC [+] {2}
bounce: eh, I made a boo-boo in the upper band. missing some 400k-odd, so 400k-800k. lemme check the numbers again.
mike_c: looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
benkay: half your money!
benkay: hey mircea_popescu thanks for the front page tweet
mircea_popescu: yw
benkay: had to wait for some other twuser to let me know
mircea_popescu: you have a tweetar ?
benkay: odd thing is that other people are now letting me hear about where else my blatherings are popping up o.O
benkay: ffs are you kidding me?
kakobrekla checks
mircea_popescu: lol no
kakobrekla: yeah surfer dude is invested innit
kakobrekla: >The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE's assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been "under-banked."
benkay: 140 characters signifying nothing
kakobrekla: a whole 18 shares of loss.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ahahaha who runs this ?
benkay: surfcapital management?
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95441.msg5682356;topicseen#msg5682356
ozbot: [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
mircea_popescu: pretty fucking epic lol.
mircea_popescu: "i love the tangibility of neobee's assets". "oops... they had no assets"
mircea_popescu: "Peer-to-peer lending is risky. We can mitigate fraud losses by our due diligence. BTCJam provides great analytics on borrower creditworthiness. "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.10144642 = 1.5217 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fucktards are fucktared, news at eight.
kakobrekla: hehe
mircea_popescu: our due dilligence, loving the tangibility of newbie assets.
cads: in my famous and well loved series of clueless questions, what are some books that you guys think any entrepreneur should read after his fifth failure, right before making it big!
BingoBoingo: [KS]: Understanding the difference between usagi and dank is critical for classing other scams
asciilifeform: can't wait until somebody thinks of offering fucktard loans with... btc private keys as collateral.
mircea_popescu: im blogging this.
cads: sorry I made that question _extra_ clueless, for humor.
benkay: ANATHEMA
mircea_popescu: cads i think you should detail your previous five failures on a blog.
mircea_popescu: then we can halp you.
benkay: NO HALP ME
cads: mircea_popescu: haha, that would be a lovely blog
benkay: this channel really burnt a solid day talking about sky faeries?
cads: I'm glad I missed that.
benkay: sorta thing drives me to productivity
benkay: and drink.
benkay: but mostly productivity.
BingoBoingo: cads: Prolly read some Thales
cads: The philosopher?
BingoBoingo: cads: He made good business
cads: As a fifth tier entrepreneur, I have decided to rewire my mushy brain with the classic modes of thought!
cads: BingoBoingo: seems like this guy is good to read as part of one's culture studies
BingoBoingo: cads: How he made his fortune is worth looking into
bloctoc: how does one pronounce Mircea Popescu?
cads: The first known individual to which a mathematical discovery is attributed.
cads: bloctoc: MrrrrrRrrrRR-CEA PPppPppscu
cads: while grovveling
cads: and crying
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487676 ☝︎
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: bloctoc ^
bloctoc: thanks! now I can phone in my reports to the viceroy
cads: huh, I need to look into algorithmically summarizing the log file
cads: I think I'm naturally half dyslexic and half autistic because I can't read fast, especially when you throw social contexts into the mix and especially when there are multiple speakers
cads: sometimes I can barely keep up in real time with a medium load, 5 speaker IRC conversation
cads: sometimes I use text to speech to help reduce to brain load
thestringpuller: i should play sad music
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00095605 / 0.00096103 / 0.00096895 (962115 shares, 924.62 BTC), 7D: 0.00093355 / 0.00094921 / 0.00096895 (6220253 shares, 5,904.36 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00088782 / 0.00096895 (28968485 shares, 25,718.87 BTC)
cads: anyways, more recently I've heard about this 18 year old kid that sold his text summarization company Summly to Yahoo for 30 million bucks
jborkl: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/5-year-old-cracks-xbox-one-security-by-discovering-simple-flaw/1100-6418774/
ozbot: 5-year-old cracks Xbox One security by discovering simple flaw - GameSpot
thestringpuller: you seem to type just fine cads
cads: typing works well
cads: about 60-70 wpm, I'm happy with that
mircea_popescu: cads if text to speec hreduces your brain load you need to go back to school.
cazalla: i believe the summly kid is from australia
mircea_popescu: learn to read yo.
cads: mircea_popescu: I've always been a heavy reader, it's honest to goodness just the switching social contexts that do it
jborkl: Now we know how msft hacks, just leave the password blank
mircea_popescu: cads i can see it. needs practice tho
cads: not a bad thing if I happen to also take measures to increase the effective bandwidth of the text I read
cads: another area I could improve on is being taken in by heavy use of jargon
benkay: just set scam filters to trigger hard when jargon appears
cads: but that's because I tend to fill in the details with the actual real work I've read dealing with the terms
cads: and fool myself that the author really means something
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what is the ad space cost on bitbet?
cads: benkay: I live and breath jargon :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00097009 = 80.5175 BTC [+] {7}
cads: oh, hey, this reminds me
cads: idea I've had for a while
bounce: ok, lower bound is still 405925: all silvers are small, one year, all anons are yearly. upper bound is now 907675: all silvers are large, all anons are lifetime, and 3 years of dues for the yearlies
cads: i want to teach math in a virtual pirate math university
cads: where our library is a virtual library of pirated shiz
cads: and our teachers are just kids on the net
thestringpuller: da fuq you on about?
cads: being Professor Cads in an underground university
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller minium of .1, rotation based on what you pay
thestringpuller: is that for like what a month?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2001 @ 0.0001482 = 0.2965 BTC [+] {8}
kakobrekla: yes
bounce: (assuming the industry memberships are lifetime, doesn't say one way or the other)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1500 @ 0.0001488 = 0.2232 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/
ozbot: These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog
mircea_popescu: surf fund and topics.
cazalla: did you see their office?
cazalla: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOSHM25CUAExszy.jpg
mircea_popescu: dude what fucking difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: i know plenty of quite competend hedgies that don't even have an office.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 582 @ 0.00558241 = 3.249 BTC [-] {20}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 408 @ 0.00540766 = 2.2063 BTC [-] {9}
thestringpuller: lol you're better off investing blindly on bets in bitbet than investing it with tards on teh forum
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00056 / 0.00056 / 0.00056 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00049074 / 0.00059 (12152 shares, 5.96 BTC)
mircea_popescu: prolly.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/
ozbot: BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014
mircea_popescu: whoever made that thing knew.
kakobrekla: thestringpuller just copy the mods really.
thestringpuller: lolol
kakobrekla: what is so funny
thestringpuller: that placing bets on bitbet is likely to have a greater yield than with the scam mp just presented
thestringpuller: can't help but laugh...
mircea_popescu: not even a scam, just kids being tarded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.06598907 = 0.3299 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.037 = 0.185 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0731 = 0.1462 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.07939999 = 0.1588 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17078 @ 0.00097224 = 16.6039 BTC [+]
MisterE: 8 hours of takeoffs @ LAX https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkKsmc5IcAA0c8X.jpg:large
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8407 @ 0.0001096 = 0.9214 BTC [-] {16}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1600 @ 0.00009919 = 0.1587 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15140 @ 0.00097257 = 14.7247 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00096578 = 5.2152 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 57 @ 0.0075 = 0.4275 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03809999 = 0.1143 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0598889 = 0.2396 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1976 @ 0.0001 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 46 @ 0.0075 = 0.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1602 @ 0.00012512 = 0.2004 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2800 @ 0.00013964 = 0.391 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.0009655 = 11.2964 BTC [-]
punkman: http://investors.bitcoinshop.us/
chetty: http://www.bbg.gov/blog/2014/04/04/russia-clamps-down-further-on-u-s-international-media/#.Uz9lSNdtU-V.twitter
ozbot: Russia Clamps Down Further on U.S. International Media
punkman: http://amultiverse.com/comic/2014/04/03/money-vs-people/
ozbot: Scenes From A Multiverse » Money Vs People
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0560005 = 0.112 BTC [-]
MisterE: ;; ident
gribble: Nick 'MisterE', with hostmask 'MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere', is not identified.
MisterE: ;;eauth
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
MisterE: ;;eauth MisterE
gribble: Request successful for user MisterE, hostmask MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C97817F2EE7504A3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00096525 = 5.4054 BTC [-]
MisterE: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:bce7bfaaf65b0f2b21be0261be00e6ddb9ba8d5a77f4bd375d4d9267
gribble: You are now authenticated for user MisterE with key C97817F2EE7504A3
MisterE: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'MisterE', with hostmask 'MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere', is identified as user 'MisterE', with GPG key id C97817F2EE7504A3, key fingerprint E54D4555D630311E14217FBDC97817F2EE7504A3, and bitcoin address 157afpHi6hoT9dTHs4nGuH78TRXd6rHG6N
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1929 @ 0.00012407 = 0.2393 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0560003 = 0.112 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 258 @ 0.00088843 = 0.2292 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1280 @ 0.00017669 = 0.2262 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 662 @ 0.0001769 = 0.1171 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.06579965 = 0.1974 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0658 = 0.1316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00096387 = 29.5908 BTC [-] {4}
chetty: http://www.thegwpf.org/ministry-of-truth-crackdown-ordered-on-climate-change-sceptics/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.01999702 = 0.14 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: !t h neobeeq
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 9.555E-5 / 0.00020000 (206015 shares, 19.68375163 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 9.555E-5 / 0.00020000 (206015 shares, 19.68375163 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00215953 / 0.00450000 (597969 shares, 1291.32993711 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.03809999 = 2.1717 BTC [+]
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2284o7/mark_karpels_speaks/ lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1140 @ 0.00013993 = 0.1595 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 93 @ 0.02011797 = 1.871 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61218391 BTC [+]
[KS]: BingoBoingo: I'm not really interested in the encyclopedic classification of scams but I can see where it has some value for clueless investors. I'm more into: 1/ it's scam, 2/ it still might be a scam or have same result, 3/ it's without a doubt not a scam and is a secure investment (like Treasury Bonds - although...looking at Argentina/Russia...). So far I have seen 1/ and 2/. Dank, RENT and others are 1/ no doubt. Neo and AM are 2/.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00014 = 0.28 BTC [+]
jurov: http://www.coindesk.com/neo-bee-ceo-danny-brewster-faces-fraud-allegations-cyprus/
jurov: such drama
jurov: However, the Cyprus Mail states that it contacted the police authorities and learned that Brewster has not reported any threats, either against him or his family.
thestringpuller: !last m s.mpoe
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096387 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: jurov, interesting
chetty: what would bitcoin be without drama?
thestringpuller: lol chetty you never got me those model formats lol
chetty: hmm I gave them to MP
chetty: get to #eulora
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 761 @ 0.00014 = 0.1065 BTC [+] {2}
tehfcuk: Sup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 7625 @ 0.00014 = 1.0675 BTC [+] {2}
tehfcuk: Hello?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3071 @ 0.00014877 = 0.4569 BTC [+] {4}
tehfcuk: Anyone here?
thestringpuller: yea
thestringpuller: check logs
tehfcuk: Sorry, new to IRC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2500 @ 0.00014999 = 0.375 BTC [+] {3}
tehfcuk: Is that people buying NeoBee?
chetty: tehfcuk, its a kinda slow time of day, read some of the logs to get a feel for the place
chetty: NEOEBEEQ, whatever that is
tehfcuk: Alright, will do thanks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.0009655 = 12.5515 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00545002 = 0.109 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6121449 = 3.0607 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 725 @ 0.00013896 = 0.1007 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10019 @ 0.0009655 = 9.6733 BTC [+]
chetty: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/375091/new-torquemadas-charles-c-w-cooke
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.0381 = 0.9906 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: .d
ozbot: 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.3402% in -1d 23h 53m 9s
Apocalyptic: in -1d , sounds legit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00096315 = 10.1612 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5299 @ 0.00012 = 0.6359 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10941 @ 0.0009655 = 10.5635 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 72 @ 0.0015808 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {6}
cazalla: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=674
cazalla: CoinLab now goldmember, toite like a toiger
Duffer1: remarkable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1800 @ 0.00012 = 0.216 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.0381 = 0.5715 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 20000 @ 0.00011894 = 2.3788 BTC [-] {14}
mircea_popescu: punkman and yet they're not in here.
mircea_popescu: http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/TUCN this'd be them.
ozbot: TUCN | Stock Price Quote for Hotel Management Systems Inc.
punkman: BTCS now
mircea_popescu: makes no diff. weighted alpha -60%
mircea_popescu: that means they reflected 60% of the movement in their industry, the other direction.
mircea_popescu: almost as good as your average forum investor.
mircea_popescu: 1 Year Return %:-72.97%
mircea_popescu: 3 Year Return %:-410.81%
mircea_popescu: 5 Year Return %:-98.72%
mircea_popescu: trading 0.0050+0.0007 atm. i guess an article is in order.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14223 @ 0.00096888 = 13.7804 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: punkman http://trilema.com/2014/scam-flavour-of-the-day-bitcoinshopus-aka-hotel-management-systems-inc-tucn/
mircea_popescu: ty for teh tip.
mircea_popescu: want a link to a blog/social media acct/something from your nick ?
mircea_popescu: [KS] the classification doesn't go like that. there's two distinct angles being confounded.
mircea_popescu: from the investor pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their revenue. in this sense, a good corp in a bad market is a "scam".
mircea_popescu: from the corp pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their honesty. in this sense, shit badly mismanaged by honest but clueless people is "not a scam"
mircea_popescu: then the debate "it's a scam" vs "it's not a scam" can rage indefinitely, opposing some people arguing "this is so stupid it'll never see a return" with people arguing "these people are so honest and nice and trustworthy they don't even call women bitch ever!"
mircea_popescu: nonsensical debate.
locksmith: hey guys
locksmith: here's something funny someone said to me on reddit
mircea_popescu: i personally hold the latter responsible for it, because somehow it has been implanted in the head of every clueless fuckwit that how nice you are matters. it dun matter for shit.
locksmith: "You are the alt account of ThickAsThieves, posting in IRC also as Sherlock & locksmith. So, why dont you start explaining how you and the ret of the Mircea team FUDed this up, hey?"
mircea_popescu: o hey, welcome to the dreamteam, locksmith
locksmith: btw my reddit username is sherlocksmith
mircea_popescu: this chan is logged, and everybody in bitcoin reads it. even the redditards.
mircea_popescu: well, the minority that can read anyway.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which,
mircea_popescu: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/e8ab0210530f2c108dd31a55232ce0c1/tumblr_mr19a1Tq5z1sqhhcto1_500.png
locksmith: nice
mircea_popescu: not bad yeah.
mircea_popescu: extra knickers but w/e.
locksmith: yeah, I'm just trying to figure why that guy is connecting me to TaT though, beyond the fact that I've been warning people against neobee and also coming to this channel
mircea_popescu: beyond ?
mircea_popescu: what are you, from like the past ? this is the future dood.
locksmith: lol
chetty: those two items are enough to build a conspiracy :)
locksmith: speaking of reddit, this is my latest hobby btw http://www.reddit.com/r/tumblrarchives
mircea_popescu: .d
ozbot: 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 2007 blocks | Estimated Change: -17.8582% in 16d 10h 12m 45s
chetty: you only need 2 dots and the sharpie goes to work
mircea_popescu: cazalla: CoinLab now goldmember, toite like a toiger << i remember in like early 2013 when i was like, ycombinator is running btc scams, and people were like nonono, coinlab and coinbase are not the same thing! and coindesk is relevant!
mircea_popescu: orly.
locksmith: well, there's no such thing as anonymity, only pseudonimity
mircea_popescu: locksmith pity you weren't around when i stil ran dtng, you could have spammed reddit with links to that
mircea_popescu: better porn anyway.
locksmith: dtng?
mircea_popescu: yeah, old imgboard
locksmith: oh alright, I was trying to connect the dots with a sharpy and see if you could be linked to violentacrez
mircea_popescu: supposedly she's one of my many alternate female identitties.
locksmith: haha
mircea_popescu: http://www.thegwpf.org/ministry-of-truth-crackdown-ordered-on-climate-change-sceptics/
locksmith: you could've used it to spread more fud about neobee
mircea_popescu: this is pretty lulzy stuff. "oh noes, people say things we don't like to hear. SILENCE THEM!!11"
mircea_popescu: locksmith no cause then it'd have given the game away to the astute reddit monsterbators.
chetty: yeah see what happened to the DEO of Mozilla?
mircea_popescu: im saving that one for to ruin the feminist movement from inside or something.
chetty: s/CEO
mircea_popescu: chetty remember that article that hurt artifexd's feelings, which said programmers are fungible ?
mircea_popescu: well... he got fungibled.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1/450000
gribble: 2.22222222222e-06
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (1 - 1/450000) * 100
gribble: 99.9997777778
locksmith: dude don't target femen! coz you know
locksmith: boobs
pankkake: femens don't have boobs
pankkake: ;;calc (1 - 1/600000) * 100
gribble: 99.9998333333
chetty: nah fungible he could go somewhere else, that guy will never work again
locksmith: pankkake stop spreading fud https://www.google.com.cy/search?q=femen&espv=2&es_sm=94&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=s_U_U86JKs3csgaW1oDoDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=682
pankkake: I remembered them flatter
locksmith: they got all shapes and colors
mircea_popescu: ya srsly, the entire concept of femen is to form a group of little boys that pretend to be topless women.
locksmith: yeah but they chop down wooden crosses without a shirt on
locksmith: which is pretty hardcore
mircea_popescu: Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps, he likes to press wild flowers.
mircea_popescu: He puts on women's clothing and hangs around.... In bars?
mircea_popescu: (but no, they're nice gals, i'm just being contrarian)
locksmith: so if I get this right, feminists are butthurt cos of having small boobs?
mircea_popescu: most annoying feminists i saw are butthurt cause you can't really make their boobs out among all the spare tires.
mircea_popescu: most pleasant feminists i know are simply not interested in getting it on with a failed boy pretending to be a man
mircea_popescu: and prefer to be my slaves instead.
mircea_popescu: in between these, a continuum
locksmith: where I come from women are feminist by default. we change the configs though but some of them are using persistent state
mircea_popescu: they should be feminists. woman in a harem eats a degree of magnitude more clam than snail. god help her if she doesn't like girls.
locksmith: yeh but they end up not putting out
locksmith: heard of a married couple the other day hasn't had sex in 4 years
locksmith: that's why divorces are soaring here
locksmith: people should just not get married
mircea_popescu: well they should definitely pick better.
chetty: God I hate feminists
mircea_popescu: this "ima get married cause everyone else is" nonsense obviously can't work any better than "i'ma '''invest''' cause the rest of reddit thinks so"
locksmith: I'm thinking it's best to live with someone, and if you end up not liking each other just split up. what's the point of bringing the state into the whole ordeal
mircea_popescu: don't they have common law marriage where you live ?
locksmith: what's common law marriage
mircea_popescu: in most of the us the state involves itself anyway, provided you spend more than a few years together. or have kids.
mircea_popescu: it's a "married by default" thing.
mircea_popescu: in some us states merely failing to correct the other one's public claim you were married is good enough.
locksmith: oh yeah, this exists here, for couples with kids or people living together for more than 7 years
locksmith: but I don't live in the states
mircea_popescu: used to be 20 years about 20 years ago.
mircea_popescu: a well.
MisterE: in WA men have been forced to pay child support for children that were not theirs because they lived with and "bonded" with the family
MisterE: no doubt the guy was paying all the bills while he was there too
MisterE: terrible state to get divorced
MisterE: you want to file in Bexar County TX
locksmith: MisterE now that's just fucked up. if that happened to me nobody would ever see me again
MisterE: it's tilted so far in favor of woman in WA
mircea_popescu: locksmith why would nobody see YOU again ?
mircea_popescu: what, get new friends just because ?
locksmith: I'd hit the road man
mircea_popescu: if it happened to me nobody'd see that state again.
MisterE: in WA if someone calls police for domestic violence someone *must* go to jail
locksmith: mircea_popescu I was trying to not sound too terrorist-ish - I'm not hiding my IP :p
mircea_popescu: lol
MisterE: friend of mine got tazed because cops were there when he got home and he couldn't believe it
mircea_popescu: dude. government IS SUPPOSED to be afraid of people.
mircea_popescu: and not just a little afraid either. fucking petrified.
MisterE: supposed indeed
mircea_popescu: trembling in terror.
MisterE: they sure have turned the tables on that one
mircea_popescu: well cause of you schmucks.
locksmith: hehe
mircea_popescu: never has a thing as powerless as the state ever been invented.
MisterE: hey I voted with my feet
mircea_popescu: that also works.
MisterE: 8-years ago I saw the writing on the wall
MisterE: no more tax revenue from me
locksmith: for all the shit that Cyprus is, our police here is very mild
locksmith: you can go about the island and you only see police in their cars going around
locksmith: the most terrifiying thing about cyprus police is if you do a traffic violation
locksmith: that's their strong department, traffic
mircea_popescu: anyway, my car's here so ima split. if the bitcoinshop.us tards show up, have them make an appointment. nothing before 8pm gmt.
locksmith: ok, also if you guys see ThickAsThieves let him know I'm his alt-ego
pankkake: LiteAsThieves?
locksmith: no, this guy in reddit thinks that my username there, sherlocksmith, and my nick here, locksmith, is ThickAsThieves' alt identity
pankkake: lol, they're never out of sockpuppet conspiracies
locksmith: I have actually never even spoken to ThickAsThieves, but this guy sees I come to this channel and so doees ThickAsThieves
locksmith: so we must be the same person, you know?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05521914 = 1.1596 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3963 @ 0.00017419 = 0.6903 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8012 @ 0.00097093 = 7.7791 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 106 @ 0.05185789 = 5.4969 BTC [-] {12}
jurov: that fred quimby trilema stuff got me thinking
Apocalyptic: I really liked the article
jurov: Looks if i want to have more people around, I have to actually and mercilessly use them
jurov: not play toward their creative side
jurov: only then they stay in my company
jurov: But I don't want to surround me with people I secretly despise!
Apocalyptic: I didn't see that in the piece
jurov: it's closely related to the fungibility
jurov: and quimby did not buy his animator espresso machine or bean bags
Apocalyptic: the way you behave towards people is in no way related to their potential fungibility
Apocalyptic: the way you consider them however is something else
jurov: Quite the opposite. And they worked for him and the results were excellent.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 427 @ 0.0003524 = 0.1505 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: Apocalyptic if i consider them somehow,i'll behave too
jurov: that can't be split from each other
Apocalyptic: I think it can
jurov: But that's beside the point. I saw the point "as do not treat anyone as exceptional"
Shakespeare: a team does need a leader jurov, but a leader doesnt despise his men
Shakespeare: he merely does not need to totally understand what they do
Apocalyptic: jurov, I saw the point as a real life exemple of the value of management
Apocalyptic: *proper* management that is
Shakespeare: i think you'd find the working environment of successful "bean bag" companies to not be all espresso machines and fun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18323 @ 0.0009715 = 17.8008 BTC [+] {2}
Shakespeare: look at the hiring lockout thing between apple/google etc
Shakespeare: finding and keeping talent is fierce
Apocalyptic: and that is shouldn't be underestimated, as it tremendously often is
Apocalyptic: (re the salary argument, "does this guy really deserve to be paid xxxx ? he does nothing...")
jurov: Do you think Jobs and Schmidt did not despise(or had similar feeling) the underlings?
Apocalyptic: now that's beside the point, maybe they did, maybe they don't
Apocalyptic: *didn't
jurov: There just *had* to be some feeling of superiority in them to do what they did
pankkake: re moz CEO: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5651
Shakespeare: Jobs and the underlings he despised were probably several layers of mgmt removed
Shakespeare: it's not thaty they felt superior, it;s that they ARE superior
Shakespeare: so when inferior beings frustrate your plans how does that make you feel?
Shakespeare: we're getting away from the spirit of the Quimby article i think though
jurov: you're right, i'd be upset
Shakespeare: it was mostly about running a tight ship, regardless of your experience performing the art
Shakespeare: showing that mindset can be corrupted
jurov: Dunno. If I want to have company and attract and keep talent, that's what i need to become
Shakespeare: and leadership is a basic form
jurov: That was what tfa was about.
Shakespeare: maybe you are not a leader
Shakespeare: you dont need to be
Shakespeare: or, maybe your decision as a good boss, migth be to hire a better manager
jurov: Well, I could barely stand being an employee since I remember.
Shakespeare: someone "brought in" Quimby right?
jurov: Yes,me.
Shakespeare: he didnt build the thing without intigation
Shakespeare: instigation
jurov: And I can't do the travelling,freelancing and squatting nomad either, attractive it may be.
jurov: So the only option left is to have own company.
[KS]: mircea_popescu: I see your point, but it's an improper use of the word "scam". A scam is a fraud. A good corp in a bad market is just that. You made a bad investment and calling it a scam is just shifting the blame. Of course, don't try to explain them word things to "investors".
Shakespeare: so have a compan jurov!
Apocalyptic: he already has
jurov: Yes. Just discussing some difficulties with leading people.
jurov: *my
Shakespeare: yeah i didnt have much luck with it myself
Shakespeare: mainly found it impossible to find talent locally
Shakespeare: and impossiblly frustrating to educate the target audience i chose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0381 = 0.3429 BTC [+]
Shakespeare: i have a dictator in me, but it's a muddled one and I still can revert to worrying about employees hating me, etc
Shakespeare: eventually you just fire the ones that do because it makes them useless
jurov: Um, I did not go to that point yet.
jurov: Just worked together with few people that would be potential employees
jurov: but all were either inept or lost interest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05580901 = 0.279 BTC [+] {2}
Shakespeare: do you wish they didnt lose interest? or was it indicative of their likely performance anywya?
Shakespeare: kinda seems you might be worrying too much about being super boss this early
jurov: Seems they wanted guaranteed salary and I did not feel like bullshitting them.
Shakespeare: people have to have stake to care
jurov: And once you pay full salary, you have to be super boss...
Shakespeare: whether it be salary, equity, etc
Shakespeare: it could even be their own desire to see the work done
Shakespeare: or do the specific work
Shakespeare: some kind of stake
jurov: Or their mortgage.
Shakespeare: yeah if they hard up, just the promise of moneymight do
Shakespeare: what's your company do anyway?
jurov: I have coinbr + 3 other projects in various stages...need mostly sysadmin(s).
Shakespeare: i have only bad experience with such people and staffing, i'm no help...
jurov: lol
Shakespeare: maybe merge with some other co that offers good ones?
jurov: Yeah, with niggers.txt
jurov: they failed to deliver too, btw.
Shakespeare: lol
Apocalyptic: dem niggers
Shakespeare: was your intent to be a net-based workplace?
Shakespeare: or to have an office of your staff?
Shakespeare: in my own experience, online thing is much worse and harder to manage employees/quality
jurov: Trying the first one, maybe I should do the second instead
Shakespeare: if you hire online people, they need to have super track record of delivering
Shakespeare: and any of those guys probly dont need you
Shakespeare: which means some other kind of stake
chetty: jurov, you dont need to that hard on employees. what you need is their respect.
chetty: its like raising kids, parents try to be friends not parents. You just need to be the boss, not their friend
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00012674 = 0.1267 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: ^
nubbins`: "i want my son to be my best friend"
nubbins`: well, your son's gonna be a fuckin asshole
chetty: nubbins`, +1
chairman_meow: hello
chairman_meow: anyone recommend an investment?
chetty: haha, avoid scams - due diligence is always called for, more in bitcoins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000175 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18990 @ 0.00097205 = 18.4592 BTC [+]
chairman_meow: assbot heh
bounce: jurov: I think you misread the piece. the guy had an enthousiastic stable of creatives. all he really had to do was keep'em focused, which does not include letting them hare off every which way.
jurov: bounce why the fungibility highlight then?
jurov: emphasis even
chetty: cause thats the way MP writes, he exaggerates everything to make a point
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1029 @ 0.00013671 = 0.1407 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: so what was the point of fungibility part?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1544 @ 0.00013697 = 0.2115 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4500 @ 0.00013599 = 0.612 BTC [-] {2}
danielpbarron: anyone who bothered to read the bio of that Dr. Whateverhisnameis would have known to stay far away from that "investment"
danielpbarron: it's written like a parody
chetty: due diligence is seriously lacking among the muppets
jurov: "genuinely love your people... like cogs in your machine"
danielpbarron: eh, i'm giving them too much credit, he didn't come off that well in his own forum thread; they had adequate warning
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014299 = 0.143 BTC [+] {2}
chetty: well the machine wont work without cogs, and good cogs are better
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.000143 = 0.143 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3076 @ 0.0001431 = 0.4402 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014788 = 0.1479 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1777 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580951 = 0.1116 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.055808 = 0.1674 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 451.46, Best ask: 451.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 451.8, 24 hour volume: 5754.99089432, 24 hour low: 439.99, 24 hour high: 456.23, 24 hour vwap: 447.289472287
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6154 @ 0.00097407 = 5.9944 BTC [+]
chairman_meow: hey what do you think of CBTC losses?
pankkake: losses?
danielpbarron: https://www.cbtc.com/ Community Bank of Chesapeake?
ozbot: Community Bank of the Chesapeake, Southern Maryland and Virginia
danielpbarron: or http://www.cbtc.org/CBTC/Welcome.html Coastal Bicycle Touring Club?
chairman_meow: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=CBTC
danielpbarron: i think everything about that whole exchange is sketchy, but individuals keep using it so what do i know
chairman_meow: heh. it looks like CBTC has never made a profit
danielpbarron: that's not a shock
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 107 @ 0.001565 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
pankkake: why are they paying dividends then?
chairman_meow: beats me
danielpbarron: but investing isn't about making money for most individuals; they are happy just to participate
pankkake: "This has been tried before. His response was about his love of life and how many of his friends and family have died when he was young."
Apocalyptic: Management Fees฿104.6200
chetty: actual profits are pretty rare in bitcoin space.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0009695 = 18.1781 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.08562688 BTC to 5`076 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
danielpbarron: lol i'm pretty rare i guess
benkay: actual businesses are pretty rare in bitcoin space chetty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 66.40585632 BTC to 5`076 shares, 1308232 satoshi per share
danielpbarron: it's pretty easy if you make sure that what goes in is more than what goes out
benkay: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05756002 = 0.8634 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.0381 = 1.3335 BTC [+]
chetty: benkay, +1
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: depends on if the business touches fiat ever...
benkay: lotsa new handles in here -- y'all in the WoT yet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.05118139 = 2.2008 BTC [-] {3}
danielpbarron is
benkay: and who are you, danielpbarron
benkay: ?
benkay: what's your flavor of scam?
danielpbarron: Daniel Peter Barron
danielpbarron: don't trust me
danielpbarron: i have no investments for you
benkay: o ya you're the troll thumper
benkay: what are you doing here, danielpbarron ?
danielpbarron: am I in the wrong place? I thought this was ground zero of the Bitcoin Business community
benkay: hence the question "what are you doing here"
danielpbarron: lol, start making sense
benkay: not as in get out of here as you no doubt hear all the time, but what precisely are you doing.
danielpbarron: learning
chetty: worthy action
danielpbarron: i think it would be irressponsible to hold BTC and NOT be in here
thestringpuller: better than the forums...
danielpbarron: that's an understatement
benkay: danielpbarron: do you have this 'hoarders will starve' thesis of yours written out anywhere in more detail than 140 characters including a link allows for?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.10144642 = 2.2318 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: what are you talking about
benkay: ah i misread
danielpbarron: (i don't mean that isn't my twitter account, it is)
benkay: hoarder's won't starve, misconceiving bitcoin will kill you is that the gist?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05779984 = 0.867 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0371 = 0.1113 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.038525 = 0.3082 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: individuals who oppose deflationary currencies in favor of inflationary, based on having being duped into thinking that someone would sooner starve to death then part with savings, will themselves starve to death when the infastructure feeding them inevitably collapses due to the inability of central banks to print their way into prosperity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0589999 = 0.236 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580801 = 0.1116 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.05023069 = 2.8129 BTC [-] {8}
benkay: p much.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.039 = 1.053 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [-]
benkay: i had a crypto nightmare last night
benkay: had a machine lifted with passphrase cached
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.03737188 = 1.009 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.08299776 = 1.826 BTC [-]
cgcardona_: and the passphrase was 'aaaaaaaa' - it was truly a nightmare :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 27 @ 0.08299776 = 2.2409 BTC [-]
benkay: the neobee physical locations never even existed?
cgcardona_: great rules btw (I only discovered the room yesterday) http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ "Pros don’t give a shit, it’s the clueless twits and assorted pretenders that do"
cgcardona_: nicely put
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00097242 = 11.8635 BTC [+]
benkay: here's a tough one
benkay: which affiliation makes you look dumber to the average potential client?
benkay: bitcoin?
benkay: twitter?
Apocalyptic: depends on your audience I guess
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0361 = 0.1083 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05349999 = 0.107 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: doubtless.
kakobrekla: bitcoin or myspace?
cgcardona_: depends what you mean by 'average' - I recently got a new part time job in SF w/ some relatively tech savvy people. During the interview we talked about btc and I told them about my project. The team leaders response was 'I think bitcoin is cool. I'm just not sure if it's gonna be the winner' (fair enough i suppose).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+]
cgcardona_: On the flip side I recently took on a client in honolulu and he is incredibly tech savvy and wanted nothing to do w/ twitter integration
cgcardona_: a third anecdotal evidence is my wife recently asked a local music store here on kauai if they'd let her buy me an ukelele for my bday w/ btc and they basically laughed her out of the store.
cgcardona_: so depending on where in the spectrum the person falls it would change (obvisously)
cgcardona_: *obviously
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.05121599 = 1.2804 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.03574997 = 0.858 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.08299776 = 1.9919 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15731 @ 0.00096355 = 15.1576 BTC [-] {4}
ellen_degenerate: !help
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
thestringpuller: !jd
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 15307 BTC profit, 31.9k BTC invested, 981.18 mio bets, 5.14 mio BTC wagered
MisterE: http://loyalkng.com/2009/11/11/romanian-becomes-possessed-while-on-live-television/
ozbot: Romanian Becomes Possessed While on Live Television — LOYAL K.N.G.
MisterE: is it true?
mikaeldice: I didn't read the article, but a cursory glance at the title ensures me that yes, it must be true.
mikaeldice: *assures
ellen_degenerate: !dd
ellen_degenerate: heh I was looking for dogedice stats
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0057028 = 0.2851 BTC [+] {6}
kakobrekla: so
kakobrekla: nefarios new exchange has shut down before it opened
kakobrekla: congrats are in order.
danielpbarron: he's still doing stuff?
danielpbarron: does the scammer tag mean nothing?
kakobrekla: trying to do stuff. no, scammer tag means more biz
nubbins`: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 10 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mike_c> looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
nubbins`: lel.
kakobrekla: !t h neobeeq
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00193918 / 0.00450000 (665368 shares, 1290.27026328 BTC)
kakobrekla: !l h neobeeq
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012801 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: seriously #bitcoin is painfull to read today...
danielpbarron: i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it
Apocalyptic: everyone is a quantum crypto expert
danielpbarron: lol, hi Apocalyptic
Apocalyptic: everyone has an "idea"
danielpbarron: hey at least i'm up front about how my "idea" is probably wrong
kakobrekla: <danielpbarron> i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it < BAT U GOTSTA DIVERSIFUCK
Apocalyptic: danielpbarron, yeah that's a good approach in learning
danielpbarron: making a credit/debit card that links to Bitcoin kinda defeats the whole purpose of Bitcoin; i realize that now
Apocalyptic: but then don't ruin it by arguing with me what "public key" means
thestringpuller: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mike_c> looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
danielpbarron: (not that I invested in neobee or the like)
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mike_c eulora wiki is down. /cry
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: (not that I invest at all, unless holding BTC counts)
thestringpuller: invest in yourself? lol
kakobrekla: we already discussed that
kakobrekla: thats trilema credits.
thestringpuller: i have enough trilema credits to last me till mircea has a full head of gray hair
kakobrekla: hehe
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: i should probably just archive all of it
thestringpuller: put it on a disc and bury it in my yard in case: apocalypse
danielpbarron: his is a clever system, you aren't paying to read the article forever; you're paying for the request to the server (which might happen multiple times per article if you keep going back to re-read)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00097242 = 30.8257 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: yes if you want nice things you have to pay for them
thestringpuller: like the electricity and bandwidth trilema consumes lol
thestringpuller: (and vodka, and other various drugs)
danielpbarron: i'm not complaining; I like the system very much
MisterE: no ads?
danielpbarron: most articles that are free to read usually suck anyway
danielpbarron: which should come as no surprise to anyone with even a tenuous understanding of economics
thestringpuller: MisterE: i assume no need for ads if you have a paywall
MisterE: yea, just asking because my hosts file blocks most I never know
MisterE: extension gets the stragglers heh
thestringpuller: lol
danielpbarron: i would so much rather pay per article then bother with ad-blocking
MisterE: yea I planned to buy some credits
MisterE: soon
danielpbarron: it's worth it
danielpbarron: buy them while they are still cheap
MisterE: Im in fiat atm except cold storage
danielpbarron: before Bitcoin, i would have said the opposite to all that
danielpbarron: prefer ads to paywall etc
MisterE: you kow what I agree
danielpbarron: but that's because FIAT SUCKS
MisterE: I prefer btc paywall
pankkake: I wouldn't have an issue with a global paywall. if I have to register to every website, fuck it
MisterE: happily pay to read ars and the sites I like
danielpbarron: i don't want to give some stranger my credit card number to read an article
pankkake: I guess bitcoin makes it a bit simpler
cgcardona_: yea one of the biggest things that's changed in my perception since regularly using btc is how fucked it feels to give a stranger my credit card info.
MisterE: lol right
danielpbarron: srsly
MisterE: and you pay dearly for that privledge
pankkake: you rarely do that though. it's paypal or some bank credit card processor
MisterE: fucking swipe fees merchant fees
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
cgcardona_: even at restaraunts
MisterE: processor fees
MisterE: international tx fees FFS!
danielpbarron: fees aside, why does a 3rd party have to be involved at all? They can block the trade or get the state involved
cgcardona_: $5.00 minimum payments at gas stations etc have been making me buy double the crap I want for years
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: that's why Bitcoin
cgcardona_: try to grab a tea and chips "oh sorry it has to be $5." "ok just double the order"
MisterE: I'm in Bangkok and want money in the US in 5 min
cgcardona_: guess I should carry more cash >_<
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: yeah i'm always paying in cash and answering "no" to "want a receipt?"
cgcardona_: damn the difficulty jump yesterday was intense http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
cgcardona_: maybe assbot has an api for showing the difficulty. i'm not sure
cgcardona_: !help
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
cgcardona_: hmmm. !ticker
cgcardona_: !ticker
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
cgcardona_: interesting :)
cgcardona_: maybe I have to pay btc to get access to more than 5 assbot commands per day?
cgcardona_: ;-]
thestringpuller: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6966233925.09 based on data since last change | 6959577195.63 based on data for last three days
cgcardona_: ah nice
punkman: you can play with the bots in private too
cgcardona_: ah yes good point. I don't mean to spam the channel. sorry bout that
punkman: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (838 shares, 6.28500000 BTC), 7D: 0.00610000 / 0.00744584 / 0.00750000 (18267 shares, 136.01321414 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00626078 / 0.00900001 (53882 shares, 337.34351440 BTC)
MisterE: $9 mil ouch http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2337930/windows-xp-thrown-last-minute-lifeline-with-gbp55m-uk-government-deal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 175 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1555 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: found the most delicious sheep's milk today, non-homogenized, 6% fat, and doesn't smell like sheep ass
MisterE: non ass milk++
punkman: I really prefer sheep/goat to cow milk, but can't find any consistent supply
MisterE: make cheese?
MisterE: goat is my fav
MisterE: very cold
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05458399 = 0.2729 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 550 @ 0.00088844 = 0.4886 BTC [+]
MisterE: that goat cheese is the bomb too
danielpbarron: i live down the road from some neighbors who have goats
punkman: I live on an island full of sheep and goats
MisterE: hell they are yummy to eat too
punkman: the cheese is consistently good
wywialm: ;;later tell bitcoinpete I've read your deflation article. Do you believe that 1) prices may be downward rigid? 2) wages may be downward rigid? If yes, what is the impact on these in a substantially deflationary regime?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: they let me milk one of the goats too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 600 @ 0.00017736 = 0.1064 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: that's in past tense; i don't go back there (they are a false church)
punkman: I should move further away from the city and get my own goat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.04530615 = 0.589 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03642999 = 0.1457 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: i want to sell shares to my friends and family to start a garden on my yard (to try out managing profit/loss and paying dividends)
punkman: how much of a garden are you thinking?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: that's not a bad idea
danielpbarron: something small
thestringpuller: how would you sell the product from the garden?
thestringpuller: what is your distribution channel?
thestringpuller: farmers market?
punkman: they come pick it up
thestringpuller: oh interesting
thestringpuller: people invest in the garden and then get lifetime supply of stuff grown
thestringpuller: BRILLIANT
danielpbarron: i would sell to myself and those who invested
danielpbarron: it's just for practice
mikaeldice: Even the neighbors with the false church?
danielpbarron: no
danielpbarron: heh i literally mean like 3 or 4 individuals
mikaeldice: What about atheists and buddhists?
danielpbarron: including myself
danielpbarron: i've always wanted to grow my own food but i'm never motivated enough to do it
punkman: farming's hard work for most people
danielpbarron: i wouldn't sell to anyone outside as that would attract state attention
thestringpuller: lol punkman http://trilema.com/2014/scam-flavour-of-the-day-bitcoinshopus-aka-hotel-management-systems-inc-tucn/ - has that been discussed yet?
mikaeldice: hum.. My phone powers on the screen to tell me it's low on power. Something's wrong there.
twizt: lol companies cant go public without being in here?
punkman: thestringpuller: it's not worth much discussion, just another scam penny stock, just caught my eye because they changed their ticker to BTCS
danielpbarron: twizt: ya
danielpbarron: twizt: legic companies can't
twizt: sounds like a weird barrier
twizt: so ebay cant accept bitcoins anymore? needs a wot acct/
punkman: incidentally, I was searching for "BTCS" because some scamchange lost 50,000 "BTCS", and BTCS turns out to be BTC-sCrypt
twizt: lol
danielpbarron: legit* what sounds weird is investing in a stranger who took no time to familiarize himself with the community that has built the Bitcoin economy
twizt: where do i sign up to be ebays fulltime #bitcoin-assets rep?
twizt: im in here all the time, might as well get paid
punkman: twizt, you work at ebay?
danielpbarron: eBay doesn't need to WoT because they are already trusted
twizt: nah but if they wanna pay me 90k to idle here
twizt: i will
danielpbarron: you aren't eBay
twizt: so what happens when a wot business becomes a scam?
twizt: do people bitch less or more?
danielpbarron: "becomes?"
punkman: the wot doesn't make decisions for you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 77 @ 0.08299776 = 6.3908 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 750 @ 0.00014798 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}
twizt: becomes = > ie really ends up being a scam
danielpbarron: right, as in, it was always a scam
thestringpuller: twizt: this happens: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero
thestringpuller: sort by rating
twizt: whats stops that guy from coming back thestringpuller
thestringpuller: he can never use that handle again
thestringpuller: or that gpg key
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014994 = 0.1499 BTC [+] {6}
danielpbarron: there is a demand for scammers and individuals like that simply supply it
thestringpuller: he could start anew, turning over a new leaf
thestringpuller: but then what happens when we find out the new person is actually an old known scammer?
twizt: and how is being unable to use handle or gpg key preventing anything?
thestringpuller: because trust is everything
danielpbarron: twizt: do you trust anybody?
thestringpuller: 3 years of building trust takes forever
twizt: well if they are taking 500+ bitcoins everytime
twizt: better than minimum wage job right?
danielpbarron: heh, unless my math is wrong here.. i think it would take exactly 3 years, thestringpuller
danielpbarron: twizt: if you can pull then off then by all means, do it
danielpbarron: that* ugh
thestringpuller: scamming isn't really a good business model
twizt: nah i dont have the patience to be a sociopath
danielpbarron: if you think 500 BTC is a lot....
thestringpuller: some people are willing to tarnish their WoT reputation, but that makes the non scammers that much more trustworthy
twizt: losing my trust is not worth 500+ bitcoins
kakobrekla: twbt wot is a tool, like a map, it wont do the job by itself, you have to know how to read it, then it helps.
kakobrekla: twizt
thestringpuller: twizt: exactly
twizt: i think u misread
twizt: who cares how long someone has trust
twizt: if that 1 time they fuck up after 3 years
danielpbarron: all the trust in the world doesn't make up for woefully incompetent business plans, which describes almost all Bitcoin scams
twizt: my bet would be against the most 'trustworthy'
twizt: ttfu
twizt: time till fuck up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.08295533 = 0.5807 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: that's why you don't invest in people that are trying to pump&dump reputation at BTCJam
danielpbarron: there are escrows and hedges and bla bla; yeah someone can have a change of heart and run with the money, but if you planned correctly there should be contingency plans
twizt: if wot had peoples names and addresses
twizt: secued
twizt: and only doxed on fuck up
twizt: then maybe i see y wot would be great
twizt: secured*
danielpbarron: because those things can't be forged..
kakobrekla: you are delirious
kakobrekla: http://dcm6srpdb0rbc.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Guz8r.png
kakobrekla: go get him tiger.
twizt: yea but we cant have that now right, cuz people gotta stay anon lol
twizt: sorry for delirium8
danielpbarron slaps twizt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3265 @ 0.00014999 = 0.4897 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: btw twizt many people in the wot dont hide their identities, including me.
Namworld: That's not too far from me on my IDs. When I had long hair that is.
twizt: thats good kakobrekla
danielpbarron: or me (nick is real name)
Namworld: I now cut my hair short.
thestringpuller: alberto?
thestringpuller: the btc day trade guy?
thestringpuller: @ kakobrekla
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1308 @ 0.00015 = 0.1962 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: labcoin, bitdaytrade, btcrebate ,... you name it
kakobrekla: also iirc kronos.io
kakobrekla: and two non btc scams before that
kakobrekla: at least.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3692 @ 0.00015 = 0.5538 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0858 = 0.1716 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: guy seems to have a nice track record
thestringpuller: damn son
danielpbarron: heh, dr. whatshisface negged kakobrekla; that's a positive in my book
kakobrekla: ah, dr foreskin
danielpbarron: lol
Apocalyptic: ;;gettrust kakobrekla
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Apocalyptic to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Apocalyptic&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011
danielpbarron: reading that guy's bio is a riot
kakobrekla: hehe
Apocalyptic: nice profile kako, not one neg
kakobrekla: heh
Apocalyptic: even Usagi rated you +3
kakobrekla: well, i had a short contract with him very early on. he paid ok.
kakobrekla: but iirc i removed the rating to him later on
kakobrekla: when thingy got fucked.
kakobrekla: things*
kakobrekla: but yeah, he lost, had to swallow a big loss and he did.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04806131 = 1.9225 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 115 @ 0.0008884 = 0.1022 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00035241 = 0.1057 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05479908 = 0.2192 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.08299776 = 0.498 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00097242 = 2.7675 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 980 @ 0.00017733 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.58018111 = 2.9009 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00097591 = 12.1989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0075 = 0.45 BTC [+]
MisterE: wow, http://imgur.com/gallery/fOiLd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7573 @ 0.00097591 = 7.3906 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05479902 = 0.1644 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0348 = 0.1044 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 901 @ 0.00015 = 0.1352 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00097092 = 11.5539 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
Mats_cd03: If i bought s.mpoe this month would i see dividends in the following period considering the outsized payment in march
jurov: Mats_cd03: did you actually read the reports?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00553528 = 0.2823 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00550358 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.0001978 = 0.1978 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: yes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 6010 @ 0.00019833 = 1.192 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04998438 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.4 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.8 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00096878 = 2.422 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
jurov: Mats_cd03: so why did you think s.mpoe is going to stop paying divs?
Mats_cd03: i read something in here suggesting that was the case
jurov: that would be properly announced on trilema and amply discussed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3807 @ 0.0000792 = 0.3015 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.01160999 = 0.1277 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 76 @ 0.00146083 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0499844 = 0.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1330 @ 0.00019998 = 0.266 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10229 @ 0.00096334 = 9.854 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/EQcLPHH
nubbins`: and
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
thestringpuller: damn
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/IQ5blcV
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: that's pretty much my past 24 hours right there
nubbins`: now, a quick power nap before the album release show where all this shit is being sold
thestringpuller: it should all be burned
thestringpuller: like an effigy!
thestringpuller: BURN IT TO THE GROUND
thestringpuller: ;;calc 100/483
gribble: 0.207039337474
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5250 @ 0.00019998 = 1.0499 BTC [+] {3}
truffles: take off the blue animal thing improves that one
truffles: burn the others
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03529999 = 0.1059 BTC [+]
nubbins` carefully writes down comments and buries them in a small hole in the backyard
truffles: burn it with the other stuff
truffles: it looks like clutter though, just trying to help out
nubbins`: noted. it looks the way it looks on purpose :D
truffles: i c that
nubbins`: fun fact, the blue is actually the original
truffles: id like em better as 2 separate works
truffles: u save on ink too :D
jurov: seems truffles needs dick surgery
nubbins`: ^
truffles: why does it need to be shredded
nubbins`: coffee-beer-smokables-music
nubbins`: peace
benkay: ;;later tell nubbins` sounds like a great day
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: i'll just squeeze this beer: http://pitchlandia.com/faq/
benkay: "20 startups make their pitch. The crowd makes its choices. The top 10 startups receive equal funding."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.04998894 = 1.1497 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.03473478 = 0.7989 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: 22 years old, significant fraction of btc on deposit at bitstamp, engineer at facebook, can't diddle his dollas: http://rasmuzen.com/bitstamp
kakobrekla: theres several issues here
kakobrekla: idiot customers and idiot service provider
kakobrekla: the result, well, there it is.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 141 @ 0.00344001 = 0.485 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 138 @ 0.00342792 = 0.4731 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05 = 1.5 BTC [+]