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dub: a dollar?!
thats more
than I make in a month
dub: so I gues syou use
that a lot anyway
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dub: more when
they breed
dub: we give
them ~$1k/month
dub: or
they give you a $5k/month benefit?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 well in a good month i make
that every 3rd day
Diablo-D3: fuck dude,
thats like, more
than I make in a month :<
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 and you know what ? my jurisdiction allows me
to sue him locally. i hope he speaks romanian and is versed in
the law.
Diablo-D3: okay so, he fires himself...
then... rehires himself?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: oh, well, yeah,
theres
that
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 if you
think i'm not sueing him you're naive.
dub: does he have
to fire himself?
mircea_popescu: and quite frankly nearing 50 and
trying
to change careers in
this economy...
mircea_popescu: and he has
to disclose
that on all future applications (which means he can't be hired)
mircea_popescu: but in his case, fraud means he has
to be fired (by law)
Diablo-D3: thats why Im just sitting back and watching nefario
try
to find some internet proof anal bum cover.
mircea_popescu: i guess people still fail
to understand how deep
the internet can come
to bite you.
dub: back
to sleep with you
dub: except you got fucked directly instead of via a
taxman
dub: so its kinda
the same
dub: well IRL a lending business has insurance and if
the insurer defaults a govt bails it out
mircea_popescu: but
the protections of "default" irl don't quite exist in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: dub depends if
the business was in
the business of picking debtors.
dub: if a business defaults because its debtors default
the liability lies with
those debtors
dub: his assertion
that he would cover from private funds is key
mircea_popescu: it's pretty funny because he's not going
to be able
to ever find work in his profession again.
mircea_popescu: patrick harnett was hoping
to get away with a soft default because he's a special snowflake,
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3
the patrick hanrett scammer
thread in btctalk
mircea_popescu: anyway, for
those interested on common mistake caselaw, bell vs lever brothers is
the cannonical, lawschool
textbook example.
Diablo-D3: Im not scrolling up, but how did we get
to
the point
that
this was being argued over?
mircea_popescu: in general
the way
this shit goes is "let's not admit
that we've been scammed"
Diablo-D3: [05:28:03] <mircea_popescu> i just did what i normally do : execute what
the ceo says i should. it;'s not my job
to police
the corporate officers of widgets, inc.
mircea_popescu: scammer
tag is only minimally relevant.
the big deal here is
that unlike in
the pirate case, where everyone involved
tried
their darndest
to hide
the ugly
truth in
the hope
they can offload on suckers
dub: it seems
to imply intent
to scam
dub: yes well
thats a problem with
the scammer
tag system
mircea_popescu: dub
that may well be
true. but he can't pass it along
to me. he will have
to go prosecute
them himself.
kakobrekla: but he claimed he can handle
the scammers no?
mircea_popescu: there's
that Roswell State Bank v. Lawrence Walker Cotton Co. case on
the subject.
dub: ie,
they promised not
to deposti his funds in pirate
dub: the argument seems
to be
that PH is himself a victim of his customers scams, not a scammer
mircea_popescu: i just did what i normally do : execute what
the ceo says i should. it;'s not my job
to police
the corporate officers of widgets, inc.
mircea_popescu: the company can't now sue me for 500k. it will have
to go sue in cuba.
mircea_popescu: you draw a 500k cheque on
the company, come
to my bank, cash it.
mircea_popescu: one day you decide
to fuck it all, leave for cuba with your secret lover.
smickles: that sound more like fraud, rather
than a common mistake
pigeons: the common mistake was
thinking patrick would repay
smickles: mircea_popescu:
that senario seems wrong
to me
mircea_popescu: i won't be held liable, if i acted in good faith. it's between
the ceo and
the company.
mircea_popescu: basically here's how
that
thing works : if i'm a bank and i cash a cheque drawn fraudulently by a CEO on his company
smickles: mircea_popescu: i brought up
the issue of common mistake because I
think
that, if for whatever reason
the parties involved decided
to declare a common mistake, JoelK's suggestion
that PH return anything less
than
the principal is wrong
mircea_popescu: if i sell you 100 acres of land which is registered improperly and it
turns out it's really 99, and i had no idea, and you had no idea
then it could be argued.
smickles: I
think PH (possibly
thru his own ignorrance) mislead you
mircea_popescu: i mean, if me and patrick had a contract about
this online currency which we both believed existed cause we read on something awful
smickles: I don't mean
to suggest
that it's aplicable in your case
tho
mircea_popescu: read
to me like "five year olds can not enter into contracts
therefore anything anyone says is invalid" sort of bs.
smickles: mircea_popescu: well,
the issue joelK raised is "legit", but
the solution in
that case would be
to return
the full amount of
the principle
to you
smickles: also, it shouldn't matter who you are if you've defaulted on a contract, you have still defaulted on
the contract
mircea_popescu: lol
the stuff people came up with in
that
thread i swear.
smickles: yeah, but
that's nothing like, "you were both mistaken, so mircea, you lose
the btc"
mircea_popescu: but i vaguely recall you being
trolled a little re arbitrage
there
too >D
smickles: lol, mircea_popescu MPOE-PR posts a defaulted contract asking for a scammer
tag and gets
trolled hard, I post a defaulted contract asking for a scammer
tag and get satisfaction in a day or so
dub: I
try
to read what dishwara wrote and I urgently need
to
take a shit
mircea_popescu: there does not exist a mental hospital
that could in any conceivable way offer a more fertile field of study.
mircea_popescu: i seriously do not understand what psych majors/grad students are
thinking.
mircea_popescu: dub he doesn't irc anymore because when he
tried
to come here and "vouch" for nefario i
told him where
to stick it
dub: 2. Vanish because arguments waste your
time
dub: classic convo in -dev, apparently genjix doesnt irc anymore because all
the arugments are a waste of
time
dub: without reading before
that post, is it DMC 2.0?
jurov: couldn't get over
these insecurities, eh?
mircea_popescu: (make
the infrastructure, let others make
the interface)
mircea_popescu: im not entirely clear what'll be like, but i suspect he's gonna
try and pull a mpex
jurov: did not knew
too, but Serajewel informed me... but it seems
there won't be identicons nor easily usable API