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thestringpuller: what are Trilema credits?
mircea_popescu: see pigeons, smickles bought Trilema credits :D
gribble: EURUSD=X: Summary for EUR/USD- Yahoo! Finance: <http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=EURUSD=X>; EUR/USD - Google: <http://www.google.com/finance?q=EURUSD>; EUR to USD Exchange Rate - Bloomberg: <http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/EURUSD:CUR>
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.67001, Best ask: 11.73699, Bid-ask spread: 0.06698, Last trade: 11.73700, 24 hour volume: 21863.28175201, 24 hour low: 11.42000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.65305
jurov: prolly it's all that's left from icbit account?
thestringpuller: we can thank freakanomics for that
thestringpuller: recently it is unaffordable to sell drugs
mircea_popescu: the market for narcotics is a very tough racked to break into.
mircea_popescu: ya but practically speaking, too easy to run a sting.
jurov: i guess usually only first few trades are done via sr, rest of them directly
mircea_popescu: note that i have no idea and don't really care either way.
mircea_popescu: this may seem to indicate they don't really have much clientele. it could be just puffery, buncha kids selling bath salts and pills.
mircea_popescu: still, the one point of concern was that their weapons store closed for lack of business.
mircea_popescu: besides, "the mob". there;'s what, fiddy billion factions. i don't think they even know anymore.
thestringpuller: sarcasm doesn't translate here usually
mircea_popescu: "this illegal business protected by teh mafia"
mircea_popescu: i wasn't particularly serious either, just saying, not like the mob advertises
thestringpuller: i was joking about the mob involvement
pigeons: mircea_popescu: well sr is against the mob and the mob is against it, for business reasons. don't believe me and obviously i'm not in a postition to prove it, but when i see things thrown out there i respond
thestringpuller: so server load costs can be no more than $5000 a year so they still have a $130,000 take home
aethero: No we haven't yet, but we are currently in touch with a person at MoneyGram International, who is waiting for us to pull the trigger on this.
pigeons: sr takes 10% + seller seat fees
mircea_popescu: well, the profit varies wildly for mpoe, but it's never been more than 40%ish of revenue so
thestringpuller: but who can compete with the mob
thestringpuller: when I said revenue for silk road that was the total take home I apologize for the confusion
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller thought we were discussing revenue ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it seems that the total profit was 4k btc
aethero: thestringpuller: Do you have any other questions which I might be able to answer?
thestringpuller: smickles: you had written financials for mpoe's financials that used to be on polimedia blog
smickles: thestringpuller: you do want to look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1230084#msg1230084
aethero: They dont charge the biller anything.
aethero: Moneygram charges the customer a flat fee at point of sell for a billpay
gribble: [GLBSE] MPOE ETF - September Financial Report Available: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0>; Most of Many (MostOfMany) on Twitter: <http://twitter.com/MostOfMany>; Mike Carver (smickles) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/smickles>
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: that's dividend information I wanted to see smickles reports
aethero: The buyer is wanting to remain undisclosed.
thestringpuller: lucidlepidoptera: how are you planning to bypass moneygram fees
FabianB_: lucidlepidoptera: who bought it? doesn't seem to work anymore
FabianB_: lucidlepidoptera: what's the difference between QuickBitcoins.net and ziggap.com?
thestringpuller: can i see smickles mpoe financials i cant find them on your blog cause i dont speakuh da romanian
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.66611, Best ask: 11.73287, Bid-ask spread: 0.06676, Last trade: 11.66610, 24 hour volume: 22340.79606444, 24 hour low: 11.42000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.65028
thestringpuller: thats silk roads annual take home
thestringpuller: is that pure revenue? money the bot made no?
mircea_popescu: seems to be a little over 1.2mn per year.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller how would you even know what their revenue was ?
thestringpuller: i need to learn romanian first
thestringpuller: me coming to romania to fuck bitches
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: which was his point, even though he is nincumpoop
thestringpuller: mpex isnt that big tho
_Fireball: ahh thanks
kakobrekla: _Fireball i wrote back to you in pm
_Fireball: kakobrekla, pls send me those details
kakobrekla: lucidlepidoptera, that was not ment for you
kakobrekla: its like hashking would come to patricks thread
lucidlepidoptera: thank you kakobrekla, i think highly of you as well ;-)
lucidlepidoptera: New bitcoin service startup, please take a look! https://btcjam.com/listings/584
thestringpuller: 1.2M a year last time i checked
thestringpuller: silk road has much more revenue than mpex
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is too busy sleeping with her.
jurov: kakobrekla, you can ensure that by inciting katz to join
kakobrekla: i want to read continiuation.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, send the wrath of pr back on forums
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i booked passage to romania, lets go see romanian titties!!!
_Fireball: are we past the point of clearing vs settlement differences?
_Fireball: ah, that's cool!
mircea_popescu: basically you output them to a twitter channel and the bot sucks them from there.
_Fireball: kakobrekla, could you send me details how to add futures trades reporting to this channel?
_Fireball: it's in our internal issue tracker, so it's being worked on, and I will report if we find something on our end
smickles: _Fireball: I know the net does weird things sometimes, and I don't know your system thouroughly, but you can see why mircea_popescu is suspicious (to say the least)
_Fireball: smickles, that sometimes happens, I'm going to investigate the reasons, but ften it's just connection failure
smickles: anyway, _Fireball so you suspect connection failure when I still saw the live depth updating?
mircea_popescu: ignoring the fact you've got your terminology borkt.
smickles: heh, mircea_popescu technically settlement is jargon
_Fireball: yes, it's called clearing, it's a technical event
mircea_popescu: listen. is there some event occuring on your site every day at 20:00 ?
_Fireball: is that clear now?
mircea_popescu: that you close the book half a minute before daily settlement, that you then proceed to execute fake trades on your own account, that you then reopen the book after daily settlement cutoff
smickles: hi _Fireball thanks for joining us here :) do you think you could work with kakobrekla to get streaming icbit futures trades in the chan?
_Fireball: besides trades log (I can export and publish it, if needed)
_Fireball: anyway, what's the list of the actual points?
mircea_popescu: chief among which, where are your trades logged ?
mircea_popescu: rather than posturing you'd be much better served by addressing the actual points.
_Fireball: this is the last time I'm asking
_Fireball: mircea_popescu, you are not going to issue an apology, right?
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as absentee blackmail.
mircea_popescu: it has to be one or the other you know.
_Fireball: mircea_popescu, is this blackmailing?
mircea_popescu: smickles yet again the problem with the website model. customer says X. site says Y. how do we verify this ?
mircea_popescu: people imagine i'm like them.
mircea_popescu: because they fail to realise that i employ people, that i've had the affidavit vetter by trade engine experts before posting and on and on
mircea_popescu: no, actually, in general scammers do come to me with a head full of steam in the first pass
_Fireball: it's quite clear that you can't back any accusation
mircea_popescu: the article stands on its own, as far as i can tell.
_Fireball: what's the point of your, let me say, not very good article?
mircea_popescu: (tho i could have said it makes zero sense to put charts behind a pw)
_Fireball: yes, anyway, let's discuss one thing
mircea_popescu: i didn't say the chart makes zero sense.
mircea_popescu: but we're not discussing that.
_Fireball: it's slightly broken though
mircea_popescu: i understand _why_ you do it this way, if you said 40 BTC/day it would look poor but honest, but anyway.
_Fireball: have a look at the chart then