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BingoBoingo: If you add being insufferable pricks to the second part while overdoing it on memes (i.e. you don't have content because everything is a forced meme) you end up with the Gawker media formula.

BingoBoingo: Having our own memes is important for establishing a Qntra identity that goes beyond Qntra>Coindesk while also cultivating a shared experience among our readers through humor. ☟︎

asciilifeform: trinque: not necessarily - if the card is prepaid, as these were, you can normally call the # on the back of the card (and often there is even a www form) and determine the balance

trinque: asciilifeform: those card drainers might be doing a succession of rapid "auth" transactions against the card searching for the limit, then settling the transaction for the highest amount it can find that works

phf: philadelphia is all led pipes so they just give you a little paper that lets you test the water for free, and then presumably move "elsewhere" ☟︎

phf: a range of Pre✓™ branded experiences. Taxes Pre✓™ where you fill out one form and pay slightly below average (but still not as much as an accountant would save you), Building Pre✓™ where you fill out one form and can build a mcmanshion on your property (but not any other kind of building), etc.

trinque: I have a station wagon so I have room for shit in the back

asciilifeform: but not a box with bandages, disinfectant, tourniquette, anything. ☟︎

asciilifeform: they will keep a man's weight's worth of empty coffee cups and other filth in there.

phf: asciilifeform: i opened up my heel at a beach last time and sent my friends to buy me supplies "i need tincture of iodine and cyanoacrylate glue please" "... maybe just some HealFastQuick-E instead???"

trinque: or leaving with a failing liver after you succumb to their pill pushing ☟︎

phf: or that loratadine is available in 50 different branded variations, but its metabolite desloratadine you need a prescription for. every time i'd ask an allergist for one he'll say "just buy <loratadine brand> it's the same thing"

asciilifeform: phf: better still, ordinary cyanoacrylate glue for 50 cents a tube, but 'medical' - for $20+. ☟︎

phf: i like how in u.s. "pharmacies" you can buy 50mg diphenhydramine as a sleep aid for a few cents a pill, and as an anti-hestamine for $20 for 10

danielpbarron: their defensive play is to flee if things got to such a point that a tank is necessary

danielpbarron: oklahoma has a true church -- if i were to move within the states, I'd prolly go there

asciilifeform: (incidentally, didn't i predict the return of door-to-door tax collector ?! a few yrs ago.)

asciilifeform: for non-us folk: today you can't buy a few milligram of pseudoephedrine against running nose, without filling out a form.

asciilifeform: wasn't a 'can't display this, will be stolen 5min later' situation.

asciilifeform: ~actual~ rural folk, who grow own food, make own tools, and don't need the mega-state for anything, were recognized as a thread and mostly bugsprayed eons ago.

asciilifeform: consider, in coastal usa you can still go to a few dozen kinds of shop, but in the flyoverlands you're stuck with универмаг^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hlolmart

BingoBoingo: Even the ozarks have tourism, Oklohomo lacks a Branson.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Oklahomo isn't even rural. Rural has farms and the pastoral life. Oklohomo is just a drive thru obstacle with its fucking toll roads and meth heads.

asciilifeform: which is a mega-unsurprise.

asciilifeform: '...there are many, many people whose stock in trade is their use of violence, in offense or defense. No matter what else happens, they will be employed, or self-employed... In Russia, there was a period of years during which the police was basically not functioning: they had no equipment, no budget, and their salaries were not sufficient for survival. Murders went unsolved, muggings and burglaries were not even investigated. The pol

asciilifeform: this seems unlikely, because american prepaid cardz typically have a tx fee

a111: Logged on 2015-08-22 22:07 mircea_popescu: for the record, it's not even clear moving from bearer to certified insturment is anti-liberty. for insmtance - hansa used the certifierd instrument greatly, because as a merchant, giving your son a plain "pay the bearer so much silver upon presentation of this note in such town" was merely an invitation to any highwayman on route to "please fuck this young man in the ass and here's the pay for your trouble"

asciilifeform: the peculiar, imho, thing, is that somehow tradition requires american police to actually charge folks who are taken to a police station. and so it is now important to rob them ~without~ arresting.

shinohai: "We are proud to introduce this new tool to help you steal from citizens in a moar efficient manner."

asciilifeform: 'News 9 obtained a copy of the contract with the state. It shows the state is paying ERAD Group Inc., $5,000 for the software and scanners, then 7.7 percent of all the cash the highway patrol seizes.'

asciilifeform: ' If a trooper suspects you may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan any cards you have and seize the money. "We're gonna look for different factors in the way that you're acting,” Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lt. John Vincent said. “We're gonna look for if there's a difference in your story. If there's someway that we can prove that you're falsifying information to us about your business."'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al: http://www.news9.com/story/32168555/ohp-uses-new-device-to-seize-money-used-during-the-commission-of-a-crime << lulzy

BingoBoingo: Hence the referral to phf who mentioned earlier wanting people present in a "nowhere"

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And like in africa they are actually organizing a militia this time!

mircea_popescu: trinque so basically this is the cheap bullshit neoprotestand idiots have been inflicting upon africa for a few decades, come home to roost.

shinohai: There seems to be a sample that was leaked, could easily be faked however.

BingoBoingo: I guess it's worth a mention if you keep it short and end it with "Was this yet another social media liberation by Peace? Him in our time."

BingoBoingo: Maybe? Anyone cool have a louisiana driver's license?

shinohai: Is sale of supposed Louisiana driver's license db on darknet worth a writeup BingoBoingo ?

BingoBoingo: *anyone with such a vehicle that isn't making better money burning down houses to steal the brick*

BingoBoingo: But that weedpatch is at least 10 USD in gas away from anyone with a motor vehicle capable of transporting a mower.

asciilifeform: gurl wears a snorkel

asciilifeform: iirc somebody sells a handy shrinkwrap gizmo for this

asciilifeform: (charge with 'D' battery, kill a grown man)

mircea_popescu: in other happy news, industrial strength and size tin foil here (1km) comes wrapped around this lovely hard cardboard roll that actually makes a fucking great beating implement!

asciilifeform: since when is sanity a conserved quantity.

asciilifeform: the way i read pg's thing, it was reasonably sane, hypothesis being that bad investment is more like pouring petron into a leaky tank, you don't ~think~ you've destroyed it

asciilifeform: 'In most people's minds, spending money on luxuries sets off alarms that making investments doesn't. Luxuries seem self-indulgent. And unless you got the money by inheriting it or winning a lottery, you've already been thoroughly trained that self-indulgence leads to trouble. Investing bypasses those alarms. You're not spending the money; you're just moving it from one asset to another. Which is why

mircea_popescu: funny how this works, with inept kids. first it's all "but i wouldn't shoot without a cause, i'd gun nobody down"

mircea_popescu: and let us laugh together for a moment : http://buenosaires.backpage.com/Events/ http://buenosaires.backpage.com/Bars/

asciilifeform: the 'thrown rock' is a good point.

asciilifeform: where he grabs a bunch and can't get hand out, and then hunter comes

mircea_popescu: most women sexually active in the 70s had a very similar looking piece. for curving eyelashes.

asciilifeform: sdice was a pretty good 'torture test' of the network tho!

asciilifeform: ftr, what i said re voorhees's dice in feb. '13: 'Satoshi Dice is a can of worms which almost deserves its own discussion. It is, at its core, a simple “numbers game.” That is to say, an industrial-strength harvester of chump money, precisely the kind of thing which Popescu expresses his disdain for at every opportunity. But listing its stock on MPEx does not bother him, because there are suff

asciilifeform: iirc he was well-regarded in #b-a at one point (but largely before my time)

shinohai: >tfw Erik Voorhees gets a reddit ban

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-08#1479006 << incidentally, that's a fucking c section innit. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they have a roughly nsa-like relationship with folks who discuss their 'trade seeekrits' in whatever public context.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-08 16:39 phf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp6F_ApUq-c bunnie does a shenzhen documentary for wired

a111: Logged on 2016-06-08 02:36 mircea_popescu: ie, more "visits" than average usg fishwrap gets in a week. none of them yielded anything ~whatsoever~, which discorages exactly no one.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-08 16:21 phf: i think there are different levels and roles within the system, but i know for a fact that sci people are effective at bureaucrat, there's a number of them at capitol hill, doing internships with senators... (if we haven't before, t-a is now definitely suppresive)

mircea_popescu: phf what's t-a ?

asciilifeform: 'i'm boooored.' 'i'ma pound a nail through my scrotum'

mircea_popescu: speaks loudly of what a shitty deal the us is to begin with.

asciilifeform: at one point - a sort of paramilitary / mafia thing, even.

mircea_popescu: iirc that was the whole shebang, get have-been hollywood stars to "join" in exchange for getting a few white slaves allocated.

mircea_popescu: well basically what is it IN the us, a sort of central casting for cheap white maids ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-08#1478899 << at the very least get a senator. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-08 15:57 phf: yeah, there were a few options, but too far of a drive from philadelphia. now that i'm in dc, i might take a stab at wv

a111: Logged on 2016-06-08 15:43 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-08#1478846 << defect in man that could be 'fixed by whipping enough' is effectively permanent. just like, e.g., a defective cpu, might be hypothetically fixable with an ion beam machine, but NOBODY would ever even think of bothering.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-08#1478856 << this is actually a pretty good point innit. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i got here a pile of utility bills stapled into loose envelopes.

asciilifeform: 'The encryption does not include an identity authentication scheme. This BIP does not cover a proposal to avoid MITM attacks during the encryption initialization.' << lel wastin' our time.

phf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp6F_ApUq-c bunnie does a shenzhen documentary for wired ☟︎

phf: while at it, let's also mention that pilot's self clearing book has some handy nlp's style exercises, and will give you a general idea as to what sci core training is about (sealing the deal on the whole suppresive thing)

phf: i think there are different levels and roles within the system, but i know for a fact that sci people are effective at bureaucrat, there's a number of them at capitol hill, doing internships with senators... (if we haven't before, t-a is now definitely suppresive) ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'i will be a chump but if i play cards right, i will have sub-chumps...' ??

asciilifeform: i can imagine that a modern cult could be built around, e.g., mri machine.

asciilifeform: also lulzy is that their cult object is a 1940s-style 'lie detector'

trinque: for someone with the money/power, it's a tax haven. donate cash to scientology and then spend it through the church.

phf: i'm saying "why would they need a nuke"

asciilifeform: a setup like scientology has no particular need to be 'ecologically clean', can work the chumps to exhaustion

phf: why would they need to? their whole set of processes is designed to produce a healthy productive member of society (double positive intention), they are ultimatley aligned with whatever establishment they find themselves in

davout: kind of like saying a farmer's job downside is having to deal with the cows

asciilifeform: it wouldn't surprise me if they had a nuke.

asciilifeform: ~that~ is how you run a cult.

trinque: now there's a success story... scientology

asciilifeform: you can actually get some surprising mileage by registering as a religion in usa

phf: ha, they are registered as a church

phf: well, there are places on the east coast that get away with all kinds of things, between waivers, a legitimate cause, friendly neighboors, landscape, etc.

asciilifeform: if you're rich enough that parcel of land being confiscated is no big deal, like a pocket knife stolen by inspectors at airport - go, buy.

asciilifeform: some chick breaks a leg, or wakes up with regrets - yer done.

asciilifeform: wv is only really a solution if you're buying the lands to go there alone and shoot yer kalash at trees

phf: yeah, there were a few options, but too far of a drive from philadelphia. now that i'm in dc, i might take a stab at wv ☟︎

phf: oh, you want to have a welding shop on your property, that's forms a,b,c,d and auxilary form e. naturally there will be inspection

phf: as soon as the neighboor sees a naked girl, complains to authorities

phf: i was looking into buying land in Pennsylvania for the purposes of turning it into a kind of hippie retreat, kesey's "La Honda" style, and the amount of hoops you need to jump through in order to arrive at a cookie cutter american suburbs solution (and nothing else possible) is insane

asciilifeform: (e.g., even outlaw bandit pays u.s. sales tax if he ever buys from a shop)

phf: but you can't take a piss without paperwork, cop and social worker