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Ukto: thats
the investors fault I
think
pigeons: he did make public statements
that he would not do any further work other
than paying dividends
jcpham: and
that is what it seems
to me
Ukto: "it is what it is, good luck"
type of
thing
Ukto: if MP never promised
to 'care for'
the
the passthrough
Ukto: pigeons: i have not seen
the contract, i dont
think. but he may be partially correct
pigeons: MP says
that making claims was not part of
the deal
jcpham: i don't like
this idea of a passthrough
pigeons: giga does, MP does not plan
to claim
Ukto: pigeons: but he plans
to pay out
the divs,
to
those who claim
pigeons: with glbse gone MP doesnt get
the dividends
to pass
through anymore
Ukto: so neither market value, depth, or histroy on GLBSE have anything
to do with an asset on MPEX
Ukto: jcpham: my view, is
that as long as
the shares receive dividends, and he can distribute
those
to
the share holders on
the mpex list,
then its full
tradeable w/ value on mpex. no information on GLBSE is required
to operate/maintain
the passthrough fund. price at glbse does not matter, since it
trades at its ownprice on MPEX.
pigeons: MP did shut
the passthrough down entirely
jcpham: i see everything you guys are saying but isn't it a huge pain in
the ass for MP
to operate his etf without any information
Ukto: and MP has
to do his part on behalf of
the PT
pigeons: well mircea_popescu claims
that "he always stated"
that he intended
the passthrough
to be zero work/maintenance
Ukto: giga has
to actually do his part
Ukto: and remain
tradeable
Ukto: those share values on
the passthrough should remain
Ukto: that means
that
the claims woudl earn
the passthrough fund dividends
Ukto: i
thoguht he was just closing ?
pigeons: and he intends
to continue despite being glbsed
pigeons: the contract was you get
the proceeds of 5 mhash per share
Ukto: pigeons: some ppl say
that worst case scenario
the would sell hardware
to
take care of shareholders, since
thats where
the btc was spent
Ukto: i could look it up but I
think your here :P
Ukto: so it oculd fall on
the shareholders shoulders for not requiring a "detailed contract" from MP of responsibilities
jcpham: measured,
tracked, statistical data
jcpham: well it seems
to me
that f.giga.etf
totally depends on data from glbse
Ukto: though I guess no where MP laid out any responsibilities
to do such
EskimoBob: Ukto: she is a not as smatr as she
thinks.
Ukto: B. Acting as a passthrough for shares
to giga, means
to buy/sell, and claim when need be.
Ukto: A. MP/OE states
that stocks were delisted from glbse, and
therefore worthless.
Thats
the real financial market. However, if NYSE shuts down, MSFT shares are not worthless.
Ukto: I am just
trying
to est. real world happenings vs "financially uneducated" as "mpoe-pr" is calling everyone
Ukto: I have only stated non scanalous
things
EskimoBob: hold on, i have seen
this before! GLBSE!
EskimoBob: sold
this shit
to others and now
tells everyone, it has no value (and deletes
the security) :)
jcpham: and what was
the function of it
jcpham: so MP was
the asset issuer of f.giga.etf
Ukto: and re-posted
them on Mpex
jcpham: who was
the asset issuer, step one
Ukto: and he doesnt believe he should have
to submit his claim
to gigavps,
thus will not
Ukto: regardless of
the reason for delisting
Ukto: jurov: as of now, MP is of
the opionion it has no value
jurov: if f.giga.etf is supposed
to have some value, why nobody asked mircea
to arrange buyback on december 1st?
EskimoBob: triple? damn I have seen
this only once
jcpham: i saw a
triple rainbow
Ukto: although, I was reading hte post guruvan vs mpoe-pr... reeses made a point
that if a normal stock was delisted, its value is generally
trashed for
the reason it was delisted.. but in
this case..
the stock/s were not "delisted" for reasons of financial stability..
thus, if a stock like AAPL (exmaple) were delistd due
to
the xchange shutting down, it still has value, right?
jcpham: i imagine with mircea_popescu
though stripper will be involvewd
EskimoBob: so how is
this
toy court going
to work?
jcpham: you can call me an asshat, but calling it a
toy-court and implting
that i'm not impartial is incorrect
EskimoBob: what post?
the left one or
the one on
the right side?
gigavps: EskimoBob has a special language he uses when posting on
the forums
Ukto: I saw your posts on
the forums (just recently started looking at
them) and knew I recognized it
EskimoBob: fuck your
toy court and every ass hat judge
there :) LOL
EskimoBob: can he be
the first client of his own court? LOL
EskimoBob: was'nt he establishing some
type of a court or some other shit for justice?
EskimoBob: looks like mircea has pulled a "glbse" on his super duper exchange and fucked all
the pt holders
jcpham: I'll
tell you what I know about
trendon
too
jcpham: 10btc I spill all
the beans
gigavps: guess not, your sitting here
talking with me
EskimoBob: gigavps: is it possible,
that I have better
thing
to do?
gigavps: EskimoBob, for someone who is on
the internet a lot, you sure have
trouble finding information
gigavps: no problem jcpham,
talk with my lawyer
jcpham: gigavps
these gpus I bought a year ago were not as described
EskimoBob: so, gigavps has earned his scammer
tag finally?
PsychoticBoy: 2 are continuing on another exchange and 1 has a good buyback so.......
this is not difficult
to deal with
jcpham: resolving
the matter privately, amicably;
that's difficult
jcpham: it's pretty easy
to point at other people and call
them scammers after you give
them your bitcoins
PsychoticBoy: and
they were
the ones cashing in big
time, our money
PsychoticBoy: I got
the idea
that most BIG glbse players such as YABMC (JWU42 and scammy friends) and GIGAMINING (gigavps) do not intent
to pay
jcpham: PsychoticBoy: JWU42 contacted me
to remind me of my shares
PsychoticBoy: or is
that shitty I dont want
to pay back shareholders idea comming from your scammy partners
EskimoBob: wallet? I
think it's his head,
that's bloated.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: how does it feel
to mimic your greatest "enemy" :)
EskimoBob: I was reading
this drama "F.GIGA.ETF
to be delisted on December 1st, 2012". mircea_popescu, looks like you pulled a glbse
trick on your clients.
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: now he knows where
the clit is ... lol
mircea_popescu: if it ends up over 16
those c140t lose money for sure.
Namjies: No idea but
that seems like a bad move
to me
mircea_popescu: for i got lost reading in
there for about an hour,
that' for!
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: something like
that
mircea_popescu: <Diablo-D3> and lying about
the continued state of lying and shippingness <<<
theyre
the bitcoin flagship corp, neh ?
Diablo-D3: I just wanna see
the accuracy of his statements
Diablo-D3: but
the whole
thing of opening an editor just
to put like 3 lines in it? meh
Diablo-D3: I should write a perl script
to process
these
Namjies: Yes, failure of specific hardware. But
the system as a whole keeps functioning and as such didn't fail.
Diablo-D3: failures happen all
the
time, its how
they ahndles it
that matters