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smickles: oh jeeze, I just received the first claim which does not match with the data from nefario
Namjies: Well perhaps you'll be able to demonstrate that then... I hardly see how, for example, Giga could scare people away.
mircea_popescu: if you do it half way... well... that won't be pretty.
mircea_popescu: you can scare them straight. you just need to have the guts to actually do it.
Namjies: Not that not screaming back at them calms them.
Namjies: Hence why I state staying calm when an angry mob hurls insults at you is preferable to screaming back at them.
mircea_popescu: that's true.
Namjies: If you insult them without anything else, it just gets them angrier.
mircea_popescu: but that's besides the point.
mircea_popescu: of course, if you're an idiot yourself the results won't be the same (hence, usagi)
mircea_popescu: fact of the matter is, the results are about the same whether you beat up the idiots or are nice to them.
mircea_popescu: you posit this as a point of personal prejudice.
Namjies: But people are angry at a situation and makes a colorful statements. You can take the time to answer the (more or less) coherent parts nicely or insult back. Replying someone accusing you of scamming you with a nice "fuck you too" is not very useful.
mircea_popescu: he's a liability to himself whatever he says.
Namjies: If he were to insult back people, a bit like Usagi or some others did, well it's akin to extinguishing fire with kerosene. It's counter-productive.
mircea_popescu: (this being the very definition of idiocy)
mircea_popescu: which is unsurprising, seeing how it's a function of the number of idiots running around, not a function of what they do
mircea_popescu: i fail to see the difference. mpoe-pr brings a bigger stick, giga is always nice. overall the count of idiocy thrown at either is the same.
Namjies: Well it doesn't do much to improve the situation. But it prevents the situation from worsening.
mircea_popescu: Namjies and as you can see, it does precious good, they still do it.
Namjies: Who says they won't list what?
Namjies: Ah yes, on that part, Giga has been examplary. No matter how many insults you throw at him, not resort to getting mad and start name calling too.
mircea_popescu: and sadly i don't have an answer to that one yet.
mircea_popescu: smickles the worst part is that the most heard explanation as to why people won't list is that "they don't want to put up with the shitheads on the forum etc"
smickles: jebus giga, the amount of shit you eat, yet you yourself shit flowers
Namjies: But he said he's been working 60+ hours weeks so aye, he's not always here to talk.
Namjies: I spoke to him less than a week ago.
mircea_popescu: hm, has rg said anything to anyone of late ?
Namjies: rg, don't forget to distribute this month!
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49991, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 13.49991, 24 hour volume: 32116.39802185, 24 hour low: 12.97500, 24 hour high: 13.54900, 24 hour vwap: 13.35262
JWU42: for those not following (other peoples coins)
Namjies: mircea: That sums pretty much 90% of people on my lists.
JWU42: yeah - that is what I read
JWU42: timing and amount is the question - especially if it ends up that 2/3 of YABMC cannot pay (HK and PH)
JWU42: but to his question - I have every intent TO pay
JWU42: and the one major event of Pirate brought many down
JWU42: and played it far too loose (self included)
JWU42: the handful of larger lenders didn't realize how intertwined they were
JWU42: as some have said on the forums - it is similar to the morgage meltdown here
mircea_popescu: the day glbse went down everyone in the know was "oh shit, check out the wave of 20 dollar investors tsunami nao"
JWU42: but it is fair to say that my wo partners current fiscal mess is impacting YABMC
mircea_popescu: JWU42 i wouldn't get too excited. a lot of people are dealing with a lot of greif as best they can.
mircea_popescu: to talk to your exchange.
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> jurov: heh, you know, when I mentioned I was setting up for the twatter crap, etc, no one bothreed to throw it out then :P << i had a number of times, but it's not for twitter, it's in general.
mircea_popescu: omfg the gestapo is back.
jurov: dense? you're in good comapny then ;)
Ukto: thanks for pointing that out kakobreklaaa
Ukto: jurov: I am happy to do w/e for ppl. Just need to understand what it is. (I can be dense. ;)
Ukto: I will add micerotime onto the ts then
kakobreklaaa: also timestamp is there because of twitter will mute 'dupe' orders
Ukto: I think I am completely misunderstanding what your wanting then hehe
jurov: i have absolutely no issue with the timestamp
Ukto: jurov: so you just want the timestamp changed? hehe
JWU42: missed the comments from psychoB earlier this morning
Ukto: so I figured I to use glbse's basic layout so it would be easy fo kakobreklaaa to add
jurov: i think teh protocol doesn't concern itself with twatter... but timestamp is nice addition
Ukto: jurov: heh, you know, when I mentioned I was setting up for the twatter crap, etc, no one bothreed to throw it out then :P
Ukto: jurov: timestamp at the end
jurov: Ukto also, what do you think about implementing "Teh Unified Protocol" http://trilema.com/2012/towards-a-unified-exchange-protocol/ :P
smickles: jurov: well, back when I had graduated highschool, each branch of the military did attempt to recruit me into their intelegence divisions. ... until i told them that I had authority issues. maybe DHS didn't get the memo
jurov: the numbers in the end are timestamp?
Ukto: its there now
Ukto: not sure why it didnt have the price
jurov: that would make me think why i'm considered target audience
smickles: Namjies: thx :)
jurov: i believe the bot is here: https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor
Ukto: Once I get the new logo I need to stick it up
Ukto: system should be working acurately for twatter. https://twitter.com/BitFunder
pigeons: yeah, i see coinbase on there, which i haven't tried, not a big hosted wallet fan
mircea_popescu: Namjies : no btc ? shame on them
mircea_popescu: Subscriptions require a PayPal account, but there is an option pay annually (non-recurring) where you can just use credit/debit card, without a PayPal account. Get in touch for details.
Namjies: smickles, here, some orchestrated air waves to give you heart for the task at hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2MrK3rQYrA&list=PL2019F934A3AA4D1B&index=7
mircea_popescu: ya well it's why it took me ten minutes lol
smickles: oooh, it tingles
smickles: i'd have to install things :/
smickles: on that machine?
mircea_popescu: and smickles you can get a gui wallet up to display any wallet.dat you wish.
smickles: i'm going to start playing around with multisig soon too *squee*
jcpham: i can't wait until i hit 1000 txns
smickles: i'd screenshot my wallet if I din't mostly use raw transactions now
Namjies: nope... I can read "and there's some banks livensed in nigeria on #bitcoin-otc" on it.
jcpham: 4 txns is weak
mircea_popescu: that is https becoming an isp quote is really on point. wtf they know, random strings.
mircea_popescu: but i meant, on the forum(s) and the like.
mircea_popescu: that too.
Namjies: No, the general population has no clue as to how news are mostly rumors, not even researched facts.
mircea_popescu: it's real bad, show them a goose they swear they've seen a shoebox sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: Namjies it just goes to show the general population has not the first clue as to wtf is going on.
Namjies: I didn't know Bitcoin had staffers or official representation. Or that the bitcoin network would now support bank transfers thanks to this bby becoming a registered payment service provider!
Namjies: hmm, writer in this case, not anchor
Namjies: And news anchor still fail at making accurate titles... http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/07/virtual-currency-bitcoin-registers
Namjies: Bitcoin is not becoming a bank... a minor bitcoin exchange is turning into... something.
jurov: yeah. and there's some banks livensed in nigeria on #bitcoin-otc
mircea_popescu: basically, some geeky/nerdy/internet types found btc first. finance types found it second, are marginalising them and it hurts.
mircea_popescu: i would guess that it's a political problem. amply illustrated in this exchange https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129337.msg1383274#msg1383274
mircea_popescu: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcoor3YEGZ1r3khrvo1_1280.jpg << are these underage ? [NSFW/NSFUS/ETC]
jcpham: unless they are given drugs and weapons also
jcpham: i don't want to see that show
mircea_popescu: life or reality or something like that
mircea_popescu: i think the show where they fuck is a different format