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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 03:40:32 diana_coman:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946705 - so what is
the party you are making
there in your hall? because so far
the ~only visible part has been deedbot-related + unpublished code on it -> deedbot is
the seed of
trinque's party; now you say it isn't and 1. why isn't it? 2. what exactly is
then?
trinque:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946742 << I shall be dedicating more of my
time *here*
to my hall, on your and mircea_popescu's example, and less
time on monastisolipsism "for
the archeologists" as asciilifeform puts it so often. I am loudly proclaiming my own stupidity
to date, what's not
to understand.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 02:46:47 lobbes: anyways I'll start it off: you could stand
to be more explicit in your communication. As it stands now I'm stuck assuming what you consider my flaws. From my perch I'm *doing more* now
than I was in 2017 when you rated me at 2, so it makes little sense
to me. And since I
truly hate assuming, instead I won't even bother wasting further cycles until I hear more.
diana_coman: hanbot_abroad it's !!reputation hanbot_abroad you want
there.
mp_en_viaje: oh hanbot_abroad such
travel, so fast, hungary, austria
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman:
trinque: [...]
this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; attack my flaws my foot; [...] <<
this is certainly so.
hanbot_abroad: BingoBoingo : i'd like access on UY1 but via
this
travel key.
mp_en_viaje: ie, YET ANOTHER
trilema prophetic piece,
the schmuck in question hit
the nat'l stage a few years later and
then... i dunno, i
think he's being searched for by
the interpol now, unless
they found him ? i
mp_en_viaje: not from a good life,
this perception. but what can you do...
mp_en_viaje also suspects
trinque had
the help of a whole regiment of little johny walkers
to pierce
through what he perceives, mostly of his own conception,
the highly dangerous and difficult
to cross dielectric insulation.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:27:38
trinque: let it be plain
that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want
to hear another dipshit
that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:49:25 deedbot:
trinque updated rating of mod6 from 2
to -1 << Makes sounds
thought noble about nothing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:26:47
trinque: oh and by
the way, "making
them sweat it" is not maximum pressure. it's avoidance behavior,
the same as "tomorrow I'll be sober/file police report/make a 'conversion engine'" whatever
the fuck.
mp_en_viaje: dun fucking work, it'd be nice if we could fix cracked cylinders with MAOAM, but it dun work, and not because haven't found
the right flavour. it'd be nice if you could cure stupidity with massages and syphilis with needless, but it dun work, and not because haven't found
the exact spot yet. and so following.
mp_en_viaje: all
that
trouble with
ratchets could use
the incomparably cheaper and easier lever machine. it makes less noise, it needs no grease, it doesn't wear out nearly as much and etcetera. oh if only.
mp_en_viaje: in fact,
that's precisely what "jwz" means an' refers
to :
the intuitively persuasive but utterly untenable belief
that one could find
the just-right-one static point
to prop
the lever against, and
then instead of
mp_en_viaje: 's not gonna be one,
this game of chasing "credibly defensible" "just
this one, just
this once" etc is doomed.
mp_en_viaje: yes, when
the party was now in #trilema, something nobody had even heard of, everyone could recognize it, on
the basis of "mp saying so", but
that basis was built in
turn, out of other
things. it's a fully dynamic
thing, you can't arbitrarily static-ize "JUST
THIS ONE" node and
then archimede all over
the place, 'by
this fixed point i
therefore move earth and sky'.
there's no fixed point, and no matter which one you choose
there
mp_en_viaje: it's not so easy as all
that, "turn
this lever now
there's light".
mp_en_viaje: why can't all
those careerwomen go
the way of lobbes 's girlfriend, exactly ? what's keeping
them "busy" ?
mp_en_viaje: it's
this intricate ball of self-supporting yearn ; and it's by no means
trivial a job
to identify which node supports which strand ; or how.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:12:27
trinque: in my case a chap stole from me, gave
to an enemy. I was enraged.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946702 << let it be observed, since we're here,
the INTRICATE way in which socialism perpetuates itself. by getting you
to believe
the whole "intelectual property" claptrap, it gets you
to ~volunteer~ for
tax in one of its principal
tax halls. and it's not even
the money
tax
that's interesting, all
the personal service
tax, where you pay homage and pay court upon a bunch of socia
mp_en_viaje: get skinned over, and rot
there,
to be revisited at best again in a painful supuration if at all. whereas if she lets you speak and says whatever later, exactly nothing's lost, not like she's about
to forget her mind overnight.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946707 << it's like
this : she doesnt' want
to
talk over you, especially as you're usually shy, or at
the least come off as shy, because she figures (correctly)
that
there'll be
time enough for
that, later.
the way she conceptualizes it, if she says something now
that blocks something you were gonna say,
that's lost, as it'll probably never get said, but like wood splinters, will
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:13:59
trinque: and you know,
these are
the
things friends discuss rather
than stotting before eachother playing at greatness. I should hope we are
that, and I am disappointed when we aren't.
mp_en_viaje: one day as
the fish was resting by a rock, under a willow, a man went by, and saw it, and said
to his mates "let's go away, what stench here, of rotting fish". yet how did
the man smell
the rotting of
the living fish ? what was it
that he smelled ? was it his memory ? was it his imagination ? if
the fish isn't rotting on
the shore, can a man smell
the stench of rotting fish ?
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946704 << one day, a fish read a story about a sheep learning
the
torah, so it decided
to learn
to walk on land. it waited patiently for
the rabbi
to show up by
the shore with a line, and caught itself in
the hook.
the rabbi held his head, rolled his eyes, cursed in
the winds but
the fish practiced diligently and in a short
time was able
to
take half hour walks around
the shore,
mp_en_viaje: sounds easy enough at
the entrance gate ; but once inside it becomes obvious
that where can't live, can't live. my constant "either help me build something, help
the idiots be idiots, or be sad in a corner --
there's no other option" is, similarily, insistently perceived as so much empty bravado at
the gate. but, in reality, as
time goes by...
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 11:02:58 mp_en_viaje: leave your mark in
this world. kill some of
the boys born
the same as year as you. hurt some of
the girls. make a dent.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:12:41
trinque: all I did was piss my money away, and
the idiot's still an idiot doing idiot
things.
mp_en_viaje: i keep going
to sleep in
these humongous beds, in
these
tomb-silent rooms behind half-inch
thick blockout curtains, dead
tired. and when i wake, it
takes
three, four passes
to even reconceptualize where
the fuck i am.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-18 15:37:49 mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm
thinking of cloning
the pizarro shared for sitting down your
thing on ; but comments welcome.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 00:37:48 lobbes:
http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946439 << I see no issues with
this as long as
the bot will have permissions
to write files
to
the 'mp-wp root directory'. I'm not very familiar with
the old UY1 mp-wp setup and permissions setup so I couldn't say for sure (I used
the rockchip for my bloggin' with piz)
diana_coman: (the above was
the continuation
that my shitty client here ate; will have
to fix
this
too)
diana_coman: in more productive news: ossasepia.com is back at new IP 205.134.172.6 ; many
thanks
to asciilifeform for setting it up and
to BingoBoingo for making
the very smooth
transfer possible!
diana_coman: trinque: and no, I won't spend my
time "hating back"
the silence.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:30:13
trinque: so now, you attack my flaws. I attack yours. and out of
that, republic. or nothing, in which case who cares.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:27:38
trinque: let it be plain
that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want
to hear another dipshit
that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.
deedbot: lobbes updated rating of danielpbarron from 2
to 1
lobbes: point being
that if you were explicit from
the get-go,
then I'd have
that much more
time
to *do something* about any identified flaw, instead of waiting until next week or whenever you decide
to return
lobbes: anyways I'll start it off: you could stand
to be more explicit in your communication. As it stands now I'm stuck assuming what you consider my flaws. From my perch I'm *doing more* now
than I was in 2017 when you rated me at 2, so it makes little sense
to me. And since I
truly hate assuming, instead I won't even bother wasting further cycles until I hear more.
lobbes: and I do believe
the general approach
to
this is sound;
the enemy will not give a shit about one's ego. Best
to attack
them here
lobbes: trinque: I invite you
to attack my flaws, btw. (this is why I stuck around here in
the first place;
to expose my own weaknesses and grow stronger). What prompts
the unrate?
deedbot: trinque updated rating of mod6 from 2
to -1 << Makes sounds
thought noble about nothing.
deedbot: trinque updated rating of BingoBoingo from 3
to 1 << Loyal
to
the end.
trinque: so now, you attack my flaws. I attack yours. and out of
that, republic. or nothing, in which case who cares.
trinque: let it be plain
that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want
to hear another dipshit
that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.
trinque: oh and by
the way, "making
them sweat it" is not maximum pressure. it's avoidance behavior,
the same as "tomorrow I'll be sober/file police report/make a 'conversion engine'" whatever
the fuck.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:30:57 diana_coman:
trinque: are you saying
that "I watched pizarro failing because
they didn't bring people in
the wot; so not worth dev
the wallet because not enough people in wot" ?
trinque: and you know,
these are
the
things friends discuss rather
than stotting before eachother playing at greatness. I should hope we are
that, and I am disappointed when we aren't.
trinque: all I did was piss my money away, and
the idiot's still an idiot doing idiot
things.
trinque: in my case a chap stole from me, gave
to an enemy. I was enraged.
trinque: so, exert maximum pressure *now*, and
then bend
them
to a settlement and be done.
trinque: I've
tossed 150k+ down
this hole, hurt
the other guy, great. I can't spend his hurt.
trinque: litigation is often vastly more expensive
than w/e return you
think you might achieve.
trinque: and let me remind you of something else mp said,
that I've lived.
trinque: BingoBoingo: make sure you actually file
the report, per mp. name of
the game is increasing
the perceived cost of dealing with you vs settling sensibly
BingoBoingo: I'm going
to get some sleep, I suspect others here are better qualified
to eyeball
this.
lobbes: oh, and also d)
the sending of
trackbacks, which right now looks like it'll involve using some curl-isms
lobbes: in a nutshell,
the primary domains of
the bot are a) interfacing with IRC b) connecting
to a running mp-wp mysql database c) writing (and deleting) files in a sub-directory of
the mp-wp install directory
BingoBoingo: lobbes: I still gotta write a post for asciilifeform on what a shared hosting stack should look like. It may also be
the case
that
the bot would be better with its own 'dulap'
type server. I have not had
time
to sit down and catch up completely with
the conversation surrounding
this bot.
lobbes: BingoBoingo: ah perfect,
ty. In
that case it looks like we are solid
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Who can write where is all users and permissions. Giving
the bot such powers is possibile.
lobbes: In other news, I'll be spending next week visiting old friends and family up north in Mass so I'll be less frequent in
the forum (though reading logs). I'll make sure
to
take some pics
to feed blog.
lobbes: And in
terms of delivery,
the omelette is still on
track
to reach your
table by November
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-18 15:37:49 mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm
thinking of cloning
the pizarro shared for sitting down your
thing on ; but comments welcome.
lobbes:
http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946439 << I see no issues with
this as long as
the bot will have permissions
to write files
to
the 'mp-wp root directory'. I'm not very familiar with
the old UY1 mp-wp setup and permissions setup so I couldn't say for sure (I used
the rockchip for my bloggin' with piz)
ascii_rack will lock up
the chest and bbl, deadly
tired.
ascii_rack: diana_coman: your box is sitting on
the ip given in #o earlier. pings, but no www, iirc you had manually-controlled www revvup on
that rk.