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fromphuctor: now i go
mircea_popescu: so no, i very much expect they "wouldn't be interested".
fromphuctor: at the moment , i tried, they are not very interested in your reserach
fromphuctor: i didn't read the log
mircea_popescu: fromphuctor i dunno if you've seen the logs, but the idea to add ssh keyscan was accepted upon discussion.
fromphuctor: that is why i suggested to test ssh keys
fromphuctor: in particular i have the SUSPECT that router from juniper and cisco might build random keys that are not random at all
fromphuctor: today i am wondering if you ever compared the keys to see if any clone is found
fromphuctor: yesterday i suggested to play with ssh-keyscan
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 08:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461623 << me sobs at the alt reality where 8gb counts for really beefy. phuctor is on 1/4 tb, yo. unless it was 1/2 ? i forget.
ascii_deadfiber: i gotta go rot in hell for a bit, bbl.
mircea_popescu: i'd be better off with asm.
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber i don't get the speed argument.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck things these shitboxes are even computers when i get n digits eval to 0, NaN and whatever other bullshit ?!
mircea_popescu: seriously, i gotta say ANYTHING more than "bigint" to get this ?
ascii_deadfiber: i do suspect that the enemy knows some factoid re prime distribution that makes factoring randints easier
mircea_popescu: i recall him trying one
ascii_deadfiber: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461714 << recall, i said: js, kludges ☝︎
BingoBoingo: The one at the top that isn't struck through is right, I the struck through I forgot to replace a value from last month.
BingoBoingo: I dunno, the cheese is roughly as equal as some "Americans", but fxing
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic ^ i propose as best candidate for m-r testing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461655 << i thought we were over this a few times ? yes, you can, many midwestern municipalities run isps, which are by and large BETTER than anything you can get in washington, which are the usual telcos. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461623 << me sobs at the alt reality where 8gb counts for really beefy. phuctor is on 1/4 tb, yo. unless it was 1/2 ? i forget. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:52 ben_vulpes: phf: i would like to hear about what kinds of misery you've found in datomic. not to doubt! never to doubt the misery of technology. but out of curiosity, and limits-finding by proxy.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:47 trinque: tbh I'm willing to consider that if you wrote too many layers of joins and views, you chose the wrong data structure in the beginning
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461556 << i was wondering when you'll get to that :) ☝︎
ascii_deadfiber: if it's urban centres, i need those like i need second arse drilled.
BingoBoingo: wow, I thought you had swamp
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/gbUTblM.png
ben_vulpes: "you mean i don't have to think about the db!?!?"
ben_vulpes: were i not desperately trying to eke my own living out i would most likely be camping outside of the cognitect offices until they took pity upon me and let me sweep the floor.
ben_vulpes: i harbor no illusions in this regard.
phf: Basically the game becomes "how does query translate into PostgreSQL so I can index all the things"
ben_vulpes: yeah, i only run on postgres for that precise reason.
phf: Sorry I'm on phone and just needed to pipe in. But I picked up datomic on a project as "clojure take on allegro cache" and I was expecting similar performance (tens of millions of records on a reasonable machine)
ben_vulpes: phf: i would like to hear about what kinds of misery you've found in datomic. not to doubt! never to doubt the misery of technology. but out of curiosity, and limits-finding by proxy. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mostly, i find rocks of various sharpness and heaviness and use them to beat my local reality into shape.
ben_vulpes: i wish i had the historical perspective to even know.
phf: Datomic is piece of shit for non-trivial datasets. I don't understand how they could steal so much old lisp tech and still manage to fuck it up
trinque: tbh I'm willing to consider that if you wrote too many layers of joins and views, you chose the wrong data structure in the beginning ☟︎
ben_vulpes: because if it cannot support multiple web hosts, it is not a db with which i will fuck.
ben_vulpes: but i don't know enough about elephant to say.
ben_vulpes: effectively a distributed prolog-alike db, to the extent that i can be trusted to call something 'prolog-alike'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes knows that i chew only rusty nails mixed in liquid shit
asciilifeform: lulzily i get unsolicited wurk callz every few days
asciilifeform: i don't recall any new ones
mircea_popescu: i put it on my pgp page on trilema,. forgot all abpout it, now stumbled on it all over again
asciilifeform: i actually came across it before, when cataloguing known pgptrons
mircea_popescu: PGencode.js particularily interesting i thought as it really takes base64 pubkey and puts it through rsa.js
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i just remembered : http://www.hanewin.net/encrypt/PGpubkey.htm << this of any use ?
asciilifeform: well i did not in actuality give any such lecture
mircea_popescu: you're asking me who you talked to ? what am i, the omniphone ?
asciilifeform: i can't wait to listen to the tape of 'my' talk.
fromphuctor___: will the submit page tell me my key is malformed if i made a mistake?
fromphuctor___: i need to figure out how to convert plain key to that base64/der stuff
fromphuctor___: sounds like i'll be busy then!
fromphuctor___: thanks... would the phuctor checker work with non PGP keys, if i correctly converted an RSA key to the required format?
asciilifeform: i tried to find out, found ~0
fromphuctor__: i have an idea for phuctor
steffen: a lot of germans that I know use gpg4win
steffen: at least so far I can see that my key is not malformed. I'll certainly check that result page periodically in the future.
steffen: i can only be so paranoid.
steffen: I lack the skill to verify my software package
steffen: being a german myself, yes, and that's where I thought pgp added a nice sense of privacy to interested parties no matter the government
anotheryou: I see.
anotheryou: So many german pirate-party members on the list. How where the tested keys selected? I assume you had to start somewhere...
asciilifeform: at this point i can see it.
mircea_popescu: i kinda gave up autovoicing the default nick folken.
asciilifeform: so that i could hash a key and determine if we have it already
asciilifeform: jurov: i needed a way to uniquely identify ~keys~ rather than ~moduli~
mircea_popescu: ie how he derives it from the keys ? nfi. i always assumed it's arbitrary index from db
jurov: and i'm asking, what does /gpgkey/0xhexporn stand for?
jurov: i always used 40-char one, just wrong url
jurov: wtf you're on? i never tried to approach phuctor with sort fingerprint
asciilifeform: i'm a citizen, but no good at lying.
phf: i've interviewed for reverser jobs in 2004 or so when i was still doing "infosec", and my interviews all ended same way because i'm not a citizen
asciilifeform: (where i refuse to take holy orders, and they stop calling)
asciilifeform: jurov: why would i use short fp for anything!
asciilifeform: phf: not only this, but i strongly suspect that winblowz pgp eats them all...
jurov: then i noticed you use yet longer fingerprints
jurov: asciilifeform: i tried to check my own keys but http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7 gives me a broomstick
phf: so i did a simple exercise, since there were some claims that "none of the keys import", of grabbing phuctored data. the 223 moduli represent 156 keys, importing which results in 133 "no valid user IDs" and 23 successful imports listed here http://paste.lisp.org/display/315214
mircea_popescu: i guess im gonna message him
mircea_popescu: i'll rate you and you'll beable to self voice in the future
cyco1: i'll come back when i've found it
cyco: ok i'll do that
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i guess so.
mircea_popescu: hey, whadda ya want from me, when trying to rescue statements that are trivially broken i use heuristics!
mircea_popescu: i don't recall right off how you calc the probability, but it is indeed tiny.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, i'm approaching ~unemployable
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i just interpreted your argument to mean k/4
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lel, yet another firm wasted hours of my time only to barf when told that i refuse to 'top secret'
Apocalyptic: so far I also see the two categories
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: re earlier thread I was considering either random p and q then multiplied, or whole modulus is random. Obviously the latter could not occur since the software couldn't compute phi(N), hence doing anything usefull with it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think there is 'thought' involved in the usual sense
mircea_popescu: "i know how to make widgets. i also think the loch ness monster found the cvadrature of the ellipsis."
mircea_popescu: "pgp was broken ayear ago i recall defcon talk"... it's kinda shocking in the despairing sense of the term, exactly what sort of monster a specialised society creates.
asciilifeform: though funnily enough i mentioned phuctor when i was hired there, as a 'litmus test'
asciilifeform: lel i'm surrounded by a number of folx here at slaveshit reading reddit etc
asciilifeform: curl -s http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/sadmods | grep -c -i " 1 is not prime"