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dub: voteban EskimoBob tbh
jcpham: not the other way around
jcpham: it is up to you play by the rules of the exchange
mircea_popescu: nyRednek are you trying to resolve a problem of credibility or a problem of usability ?
nyRednek: jcpham, hence the problem...that brokerage shouldn't be needed for a professional-looking site
jcpham: i think the brokerage avenue solves the issue of ui nicely
nyRednek: because i'm a potential customer, maybe? because i'm not going to spend a dime buying stocks on a site that looks like it was thrown together in one's sleep?
mircea_popescu: problem is, this is my first day seeing you. why does your recommendation carry weight with me ?
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, i still recommend you pay someone to make it useable
mircea_popescu: i can appreicate that. but it's been in business for a while you realise.
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, this is my first day seeing it
mircea_popescu: i think you're a little late to that party.
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, you might want to get someone with web design experience on staff...it's not exactly navigable or pleasing to the eye
mircea_popescu: i think rg was living off of it
mircea_popescu: but i don't think it's really the exchange's job to do that sort of filtering.
dub: sure accepting bitcoin is somethign different but just stick a bitpay checkout on any of the thousands of reseller options
mircea_popescu: dub i agree it's a tough racket.
dub: take a look at WHT, the margins are tiny
mircea_popescu: but yes, i am creating the solutions, just, it's a little slow.
mircea_popescu: consequently, they didn't really exist.
mircea_popescu: Buglouse in april there wasn;t someone like mpex to create a downmarket for the half dozen or so smaller exchanges
dub: nothing to be made in that market
dub: personally I wouldnt touch a vps/hosting startup with EskimoBob's
Bugpowder: let bitfunder do the OTTBB style companies
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder yes, that. for sure.
mircea_popescu: what to do, what to do.
mircea_popescu: not allowing them creates this very unfair field for many people.
mircea_popescu: small assets are a lot more prone to neglect.
Bugpowder: also the server downtime
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, either way, if the asset was lagging in that manner, it doesn't seem like a sound investment
jcpham: i never actually used the word imaginary...
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, that would be a sign of a failing company, no?
mircea_popescu: if you don't, there's always going to be this lead-up string. first it misses X. then a little more. then a little more still.
mircea_popescu: the problem here is that you never really know what to do. i mean, if you insta-wipe any company that's late with divs/misses a report date you will end up causing a lot of grief for legitimate shareholders
jcpham: no please teach me
Bugpowder: maybe I should move to the bluechips
jcpham: i mean i get it that you want it to be
Bugpowder: started thinking... hmm... isn't this a company run by a 22 year old
jcpham: this isn't te real world
mircea_popescu: o that. ya
Bugpowder: I ment the 09-12-12 divvy
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder actually the 14th extra dividend was in fact acquisition cash payment as per the contract
jcpham: i do not know the particulars but it does no one is doing the accounting
Bugpowder: I new something was wrong when they delayed the divvy
mircea_popescu: i honestly thought that the listing is probably bvps' largest asset. there is such a thing as a reverse ipo for instance.
jcpham: specifically the mpex contract
jcpham: i mentioned it some time ago
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't imagine they really groked the complexities of running a public company going in
jcpham: they probably need help tbh
jurov: i seriously suspect they're completely inept in this
jcpham: that's close to an attempt
jcpham: if they are considering or entertaining the idea
jurov: namworld came here only after i got to #bitvps and told them their PR is fail
jurov: jcpham, how exactly do they attempt?
assbot: Provide exchange and ticker.
jcpham: or my non-professional opinion is that rg's name is on the contract
jcpham: although contractually i'd say they have none
jcpham: it seems to me the new bitvps owners are at least attempting to rectify the situation
mircea_popescu: <jcpham> i'm glad you are taking care of it Namworld << to his credit he did buy a bunch of shares while they were trying to acquire.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> EskimoBob, seems everything that is crap you own a few shares. << virtuaally lol
dub: ciuciu is apparently waiting for pirate to pay out before he refunds his 'investors'
dub: ah the age old classic 'i know you are you said you are' touche
dub: all that quality usagi trolling, now he's regressed into a rambling paranoid old lunatic barking at traffic
dub: its a little sad tbh
dub: I think possibly alcoholic eskimo
Namworld: Plus since everyone using MPEx already use gpg, signing to confirm their key shouldn't be a problem either
dub: or a friendly eskimo with tourettes
jcpham: check the youtubes
Namworld: Okay, it's whatever you want it to be then
Namworld: No, it's the Rap eGhost...
jcpham: ^ these forum quotes are harsh man
jcpham: You forget that the pornographer Mircea Popescu is friend with the rapist, check before posting.
Namworld: S.DICE is on there
Namworld: I'll have to discuss*
Namworld: I'll have to be discuss with arij & phungus
jcpham: i'd like to see bitvps succeed
jcpham: i'm glad you are taking care of it Namworld
Namworld: Buyback some, relist the rest.
Namworld: We might just do that or relist. Or both, depending on what each holder wants.
jcpham: It isn't his agreement to honor
Namworld: But we still talk a bit with him from time to time.
Namworld: rg is gone, he just gave BitVPS away to me, arij and phungus
Namworld: Give it to me
Namworld: He can pass that to us and we'll take care of it from then on.
Namworld: A list of key+shares will be given to rg
jcpham: i get that
Namworld: I don't see why everyone would be fucked... or how halting trades would change anything.
jcpham: i haven't read the contract in many months
Namworld: It's still there for now...
jcpham: i suspected this might happen tbh
Namworld: To start with, lack of financial statements I suppose. Then rg selling his interest in BitVPS
jcpham: can someone link me to the original contract
kakobrekla: EskimoBob, seems everything that is crap you own a few shares.
Namworld: Is what caused it to be delisted.
kakobrekla: is anyone happy about that?
smickles: 1720~ paid to 10000000 shares
smickles: oh wait, i think i was off my a digit
smickles: you mean just tis last one?
smickles: i feel like it's fairly well spot on at bitfunder if deadterra were to charge a 1% fee to transfer out of the passthru