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Bugpowder: dunno if $73 is enough
to mail my ID somewhere
nyRednek: Luke-Jr,
the problem, if
this person is in romania, prosecution is going
to be nigh impossible
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr you're obviously entitled
to whatever construction you want on
the facts.
mircea_popescu: if not
then either...
then maybe if btc goes super high
Namworld: so far... it's
technically still accruing 0.005xxxxx per week.
mircea_popescu: yeah. i guess if nobody sues now
they might once (if ?) bfl delivers
mircea_popescu: of course,
things may be changing
there, what did you pay gigavps, like .1 per share ?
mircea_popescu: actually i imagine
the reason nobody actually sued with
the rota is
that nobody has enough shares
that
they value enough btc
to bother.
Namworld: yes,
the low amounts involved is an issue.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i doubt anyone would use
the legal system seeing how
there's not enough
to pay for a lawyer's initial retainer in dispute.
Ukto: not sure why.. in what way.. but
that made me giggle.
Luke-Jr: "I'll rob a bank. If
they don't like it,
they can sue."
Namworld: They'd use
the legal system over
the rota if anyone was going
to do
this.
mircea_popescu: anyone feels
they were damaged by me or mpex
there's
the rota, he can sue
mircea_popescu: but seriously, i'm all for it, i don't see why
this needs
the drama attached.
Ukto: its
the "community" court basically
Ukto: generally for smaller
things under 10k
Ukto: they just listen
to
two sides and make a decision
Ukto: here, a JP court does not follow
technicallities.
the judges are not lawyers.
mircea_popescu: all law is basically one huge
technicality, for
that matter.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr yes, well, what your standards for courtly competence are may differ from what
the courts actually do.
Ukto: oh, i had no meaning whatsoever in
that
Luke-Jr: a court
that rules on a
technicality is an incompetent court
dub: he's been
there
to get his kids back from CPS and his wife out of
the lunatic asylum
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: I know
they don't care about
technicalities
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: do you seriously expect
that
to hold up in court?
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, it was clear
the bonds won't be "upgrading", either, and
this long before
the glbse implosion.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr
the promise was i will distribute anything gigavps sends.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu:
the point is you promised dividends from gigavps
to people,
then went back on it
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: whatever, if you claim
there's a mistake in what I said,
then explain
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr not like
this wasn't discussed
to
the end about
two months ago.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: AFAIK you just have
to provide gigavps with evidence you're
the shareholder in question.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr i can appreciate he has no other way forward, but
that still does exactly nothing for me.
Bugpowder: There has been some organic growth in a varitey of mini-whales
though
Bugpowder: 1 or 2 big whales made up most of
the betting volume last month,
they haven't been seen seriously betting since
the second.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder is jan = dec actual growth in
the gambling market ?
mircea_popescu: i'm just one of
the however many people not interested
to deal with
the newly created contract device.
Luke-Jr: EskimoBob: as I understand it, mircea_popescu created a phony stock
to resell GLBSE shares,
then forfeited
those GLBSE shares for some reason at
the expense of all
the MPEX phony-stock holder
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, at
the same
time,
those securities are rising faster
than inflation
Bugpowder: Bet volume is
track at around 400,000
this month
mircea_popescu: On
the positive side, dollar denominated securities of all sorts are slated
to raise indefinitely, much past
the point where a freshly printed
thousand dollar bill won’t suffice
to pay for one of
the
two freshly baked loaves of bread in all of Manhattan.
nyRednek: much better
than bonds are doing atm
Luke-Jr: EskimoBob: gigavps wasn't behind
the mpex "stock" IIRC
jcpham: the kids want
the mountain dews
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, pepsico paid out 14%
this year
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ course, value investing
theory says
that doesn't matter if you're liquid
nyRednek: mircea_popescu,
true...i was looking, and it's still 0.3% dividend atm
Bugpowder_: nyRednek capital appreciation or depreciation is likely
to be more
than
the dividend
mircea_popescu: nyRednek cost basis still matters. if you buy it at 75 you'll get about half what
the ipo people got.
jcpham: i remember
they were 90 days late because i was in #eligius when luke-jr had a dev unit
nyRednek: jurov, stock price is irrelevant
to me, btw...i'm looking for divident percentage...and i can't really afford
to play with pepsico and ge atm
dub: I want
to say
there were
taking preorders for fpgas in '11
jcpham: minirgs
took about 6 months
to materialize
jurov: nyRednek: but now doesn't look like
the best
time
to buy s.dice
mircea_popescu: dub
their first product announcement was spring 2012 neh ?
jurov: nyRednek: you are welcome on coinbr,
the fees are explained right on frontpage (if you care
to read, ofc)
jcpham: i wouldn't go out of my way
to make introductions with strangers if i
thought he was ripping people off
dub: if he is its
the longest con in bitcoin
jcpham: but
the short story is
that i do not believe mircea_popescu
to be a scammer
jcpham: the faq used
to have instructions
nyRednek: jcpham, so if i buy stuff, i'll probably go
the brokerage route...i can't make heads or
tails of
the main site
dub: EskimoBob: wipe your chin dear
the froth is goign
to break your keyboard
jcpham: i sit in
this channel for a reason
though
jcpham: the real
truth is
that i'm an independent
third party in
this matter
jcpham: i'll be rich i
tell you
mircea_popescu: jcpham kakobrekla. but srsly, what's
the point of kicking people ?
jcpham: who
the fuck is @ in
this channel
nyRednek: EskimoBob, i actually
trust jcpham's opinion, considering his activity in OTC
jcpham: so closer
to 18 months now
mircea_popescu: the options page has been
trading since august 2011.
the exchange was beta'd in februyary 2012
dub: nyRednek: considering
the ease of
throwing up a wordpress/bootstrap/lameCMSoftheweek its pretty hard
to spot a scam on website appearance
jcpham: mpex is doing good on
the
time metric
jcpham: time is
the only indicator i have as a metric for scams
mircea_popescu: nyRednek
the site
that "looks like it's run like a scam" is older
than most btc scams.
nyRednek: or just dump any securities i have
that may be anyway linked with
that exchange, considering
that
the site looks like it's run as a scam
mircea_popescu: nyRednek well, maybe you should
treat
them separately. for what it's worth, what you call "pleasing
to
the eye" is, both for good
theoretical reasons and proven
through practice on record, a sign of poor credibility.
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Bugpowder_: Still haven't got all
the shares back I dumped
jcpham: the brokerage can cater
to you