974400+ entries in 0.674s
jurov: but i mean order of
trades, are
they in any useful order?
mircea_popescu: you should be able
to recognise
them by
the order you put
them in
jurov: the issue is
that after desync is done, one ends up with bunch of only weakly identifiable
transactions
Namworld: Ah, you will need
to add a server or
two maybe.
mircea_popescu: working
to make all
this smoother, but
traffic just keeps going up.
mircea_popescu: something does happen, you just don't hear about it
till
the webserver resyncs
mircea_popescu: the result is new
trades not being reported.
they DO happen, you just don't hear about
them.
mircea_popescu: that link can get broken, it shouldn't happen
to often but it does happen
mircea_popescu: so about webserver desync earlier : mpex uses a (trade server) - (web server) architecture. you can't
talk
to
the
trade engine directly.
jurov: deadterra, i have uncredited deposits,
too. stay in queue. :)
mircea_popescu: <jurov> except east germans << east german girls still had
to move
their ass...
mircea_popescu: <smickles> BUY|S.DICE|50000|00650000 << do you find it more convenient with
the lead 0s ?
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> with
the right connections and support << would be pretty grand.
mircea_popescu: <mjr_> usually
there is a date on which all owners << yeah,
there's no postdate.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 20.92002, Best ask: 21.00999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last
trade: 20.92001, 24 hour volume: 51619.16184093, 24 hour low: 20.40000, 24 hour high: 21.24500, 24 hour vwap: 20.74138
maximian: and you can see
that 2,005.05917863 of it was sent
to mpex
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current
ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
thestringpuller: we had a meeting scheduled yesterday but I had
to cancel due
to work
jurov: oh, quite some mpex depositing action is ensuing
today
smickles: listen
to
the way
this kid describes working at noodles
jurov: but
thee economic crunch came and everyome had
to move
their ass
jurov: lol
thestringpuller, you weren't around here in 1989 . everyone was
thinking we are entitled
to live as western europe
thestringpuller: Most American children from my generation believe
they are entitled
to a standard of living and do not have
to work for it.
thestringpuller: it's funny how eastern europe is better at capitalism
than most americans
smickles: damn, are hardcore, like
they play
the game of life on a higher difficulty setting
than i do
jurov: they didn't even admit me
to army cause of my deafness
jurov: the quotes are necessary, otherwise shell will do undesirable
things
gesell: google abitrage
table updated with mouse over information giving exact price
gribble: You are identified as user
thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
jborkl: I just don't want
to fuck up, so BUY S.DICE 50000 .0065
smickles: if you give me an example of what you want
to do (in english) i'll repeat it in a pympex command
smickles: it's
the same as a regular mpex command
mjr_: and
then people see
that it is viable
mjr_: so if i start a smaller
thing
mjr_: a real etf will be very difficult and
that is a sizable bet for something no one has heard of and dn't understand
Bugpowder: probably need
to raise 50M
to make it worth it
mjr_: i basically know how
to join a group
that's it
mjr_: just an employee at a financial
technology company with a couple broker dealer subsidiaries
Chilca: mjr_: send me a DM, we can
talk privately. Maybe I can help you
mjr_: but i don't have it at
the moment
mjr_: and we have not even
touched
the issue of actually funding
the fund
mjr_: um...to buy a company
takes money
mjr_: but
that
takes a little more regulatory work
mjr_: the easiest way
to do
ti
mjr_: and it would not cost much,
there are a million ways
to go public
mjr_: and put it up on
the pink sheets
mjr_: you don't even have
to
talk
to
the SEC for pink sheets
mjr_: well
this is my plan
Chilca: I know a VC really interested
to invest in VTC. so if you guys have a good plan, I can help you
to introduce
to him.
Bugpowder: how do you solve
the regulatory issue?
mjr_: when
they see it as viable
mjr_: cuz
they don't understand it
mjr_: i'm not saying it isn't possible, i'm hjust saying no one is willing
to
take
the risk right now
Bugpowder: I don't
think it would be hard
to raise millions
mjr_: but yes, you have
to capitalize it very well
mjr_: i don't know what
the SEC would make of bitcoins
mjr_: what i am saying is
that if i knew lloyd blankfein, i couldn't get it
to happne
mjr_: but i don't
think interest has percolated
to an institutional level yet
mjr_: i am in
the finance world, but i have no information about bitcoin etf's
mjr_: but
they probably won't for quite some
time
mjr_: i
think i can have mine up and running for 50k
Bugpowder: You would need
to partner with an existing firm
mjr_: and
that is just for lawyers and underwriters
Bugpowder: with
the right connections and support
mjr_: good luck with
the SEC
Bugpowder: I can only imagine
the regulatory shit
Chilca: who is currently working
to open a real ETF?
mjr_: but in
the end after all, it will
track
the bitcoin economy
mjr_: so it won't be a
TRUE etf
mjr_: the requirements
to get on pink sheets is ridiculously low
mjr_: to channel demand into
the bitcoin economy
mjr_: i
told you my plan is
to open a publicly
traded company in
the real exchanges
jurov: especially mpex futures need someone
to marketmake
them
mjr_: tbh...i am kinda glad
that huge spike stopped, it was a bit scary
mjr_: hopefully giving investors an index of
the entire bitcoin economy eventually, not just a currency index
mjr_: but i am
thinking of also using options and sdice
to pad
the portfolio
mjr_: i
think we
talked about my plan last
time i was on
mjr_: so i am
thinking
that
the returns will be great...appreciation and dividends